rickn-
"I got my feelings hurt on Anands BBS. I'm leaving! **rolls eyes**"
You just don't get it do you? You don't understand the reasoning do you?
There is no point posting here if it only results in childish rantings.
Feelings? Please. What about the complete lack of intelligent discussion. The "IQ level" of the discussions on this forum has dropped significantly as of late, and it wasn't all that great overall to begin with. This is due to people's inability to keep their mouths shut if they don't have anything useful to say.
It is becoming a waste of time to post on these boards.
The issues with Dave are just an amplification of problems that we have had for some time. This isn't about bashing someone's views, this is ignorant bashing unrelated to the topic at hand. This board has a rather poor reputation, and I find that bothersome. Perhaps you don't, but I would think that any of us that have been around for several years would. We certainly have seen periods where this starts up and vanishes, but the level we are currently seeing is become the norm, and has been for quite some time.
"You ppl are a bunch of a$$ kissers."
Who is? If you are insinuating that I am trying to kiss Dave's @ss, I'm left scratching my head. WTF do I, or anyone else for that matter, have to gain by kissing up to Dave? I want to keep posting here as he is the type of poster that I would like to see more of on this board.
If anything, speaking for myself at least, I have nothing in the world to gain by kissing up to Dave, and in many aspects could be hurt in one way or another by doing it. I won't go into details, but there are at least a few people here who know what I am talking about. Even excluding external factors, he is someone who disagrees with me strongly about several different things and can aruge the points, in a manner in which most people here can't.
The only thing that I have to "gain" by Dave sticking around is better discussions, nothing more. I assume that the same can be said for the others who are speaking up on this subject matter.
HaVoC-
"I will give him credit in saying in the last several threads Dave3D has really toned it down and provided more insightful knowledge rather than flame fodder."
He has more control then I do, that's for sure. Dave is human, he does get fired up when he keeps getting BS thrown at him. I know for d@mn sure I wouldn't be anywhere near as tollerant as he has been, nor would most people here.
BFG-
"While I agree there are trolling zealots who consistently attack Dave, let's not forget that Dave is just like any other member of this forum and isn't somehow elevated in status. If he makes controversial statements he should expect to be questioned, just like anybody else would be."
I agree, but he is getting hammered for anything he says. I know that you will understand when I say it is like when Robo and I go at it, except it seems to be a very large number of people against Dave, and they are not pointing anything out in a constructive manner. There used to be good threads about upcoming technology, speculation, and current technology in GH concerning vid cards, it is now very difficult to find one in the first several hundred topics(particularly considering the increased popularity of them that always accompanies an upcoming generation).
NFS4-
"I'll second that BFG...not even Anand gets let off easy when he posts in here"
What if people just kept telling Anand over and over he doesn't know what he is talking about and is very biased? Every thread he stepped into he heard the same thing over and over? I have a great deal of respect for Anand and admire what he has accomplished a great deal, but I assume you know how old Dave is and what he has also accomplished. The fact that he was the webmaster for the most respected technical 3D hardware site for years before becoming what I would assume to be the youngest engineer ever hired at 3dfx, would make it an understandable fact that Dave does have some knowledge of what is going on in the industry. This seems to be the main point he is being attacked on.
"Attacks? The only person that I have seen to "attack" Dave is Hardware."
They attack the fact that he knows certain things. This isn't a matter of opinion or viewpoint, if people(not you) would STFU and listen to what he has to say they may learn quite a bit about the upcoming boards and how they will work. Not everything is NDAd people, and much of what can be learned about the upcoming boards can be found out through MS, ignoring the board companies completely(not performance or specs, but what they will be doing at least as a baseline).
Fozzie-
"I haven't seen many more serious attacks on Dave then on any well known forum/web personality. If you don't have the thickness of skin to handle it then get out of the kitchen."
I understand your point, but is it too much to expect some decent discussion? I haven't seen anyone point to one of Dave's articles and say X is wrong/biased, what do you have to say like they do with some other sites. They are simply hitting him with whatever they can. I am not trying to say that some heat can't be expected in his position, but it should at the very least have some basis.
"I agree with the person who brought up PM as an example. Others are people like Paul DeMone and Simon Feaney(sp) are examples of how one can be on the payroll of a tech company and still be active in a community."
Using PM as an example, if the AMD loyalists/zealots flew off the handle at him all the time I would be saying the same d@mn thing, and would imagine that there would be a lot more support as he has been with the community for much longer(and he is a bit more calm then Dave).