Day 1 of Trump's Influence

[Homerboy]

I am more than willing to believe it with video evidence.

How would you like that to occur?
Somebody says something. Then you ask them to hold on a minute. Pull out your phone. Hit record. Then ask them to repeat what they just said?

 

[LegendKiller]

How would you like that to occur?
Somebody says something. Then you ask them to hold on a minute. Pull out your phone. Hit record. Then ask them to repeat what they just said?

If you were to take it to court, how would you prove it. The burden of proof is on the accuser since you are innocent until proven guilty. So prove it.

We know the Dems love "birddogging". We know they manufacture protests through moveon.org and other bullshit. We know that many of these stories popping up turn out to be fake. So prove they are real.

 

[Ns1]

I highly doubt it did. Much like the MInny and Louisiana stuff.

Well you can doubt all you want, but it happened. And this isn't exactly a 1-off situation either, there are TONS of reports about this shit. Is this all a liberal conspiracy to you?

If you were to take it to court, how would you prove it. The burden of proof is on the accuser since you are innocent until proven guilty. So prove it..

This isn't a court of law dude, this is people reporting their experiences. If this was a court of law, the answer would be to get the video tape evidence from the security cameras. But this isn't - this is an acquaintance getting harassed at the airport and then venting on FB about it.

 

[Ackmed]

Funny, I don't see the OP showing where people spray painted "die whites die" in New Orleans on a monument. Or where Trump aprotester called for deaths, wonder why that is.

Wow that's disturbing to say the least. This is a precarious time for America as the crazies come out of the woodwork and feel vindicated. Not every Trump supporter was a racist, but every racist was a Trump supporter. Hopefully those assholes find out quickly that this isn't 1950 anymore.

No, what's disturbing is that you think all racists are Trump supporters. Your absolute lack of acknowledgement that there are racists of other colors than whites, tells me you're extremely ignorant to the world around you. You're assuming only white people can be racist, which actually shows your own prejudice, good job. . Much like Indus not a clue to what is going on. Not great company to be in by the way.

 

[Blanky]

Our country now peeps!

That sounds totally legit.

 

[Ackmed]

Trump was elected because huge numbers of rural racist whites voted for him. A few quislings are irrelevant. Rural racist whites is the only take home here.

The only take home here is you're as clueless as they come. And like most like you, you just toss out racism or something similar when things don't go your way. But believe what the media is telling you now, they were so right about who's going to win before the election.

 

[LegendKiller]

Well you can doubt all you want, but it happened. And this isn't exactly a 1-off situation either, there are TONS of reports about this shit. Is this all a liberal conspiracy to you?



This isn't a court of law dude, this is people reporting their experiences. If this was a court of law, the answer would be to get the video tape evidence from the security cameras. But this isn't - this is an acquaintance getting harassed at the airport and then venting on FB about it.

And the experiences are not verified so we have no idea whether they are manipulating public opinion to foment unrest, or whether they are actual legitimate actions. The balance of motivation is to the former, not the latter.

 

[Ns1]

And the experiences are not verified so we have no idea whether they are manipulating public opinion to foment unrest, or whether they are actual legitimate actions. The balance of motivation is to the former, not the latter.

Well, you as an asshole on the internet, are rightfully suspicious. This is the internet afterall.

That doesn't mean it didn't happen.

 

[LegendKiller]

Well, you as an asshole on the internet, are rightfully suspicious. This is the internet afterall.

That doesn't mean it didn't happen.

But that doesn't mean it did. Doesn't stop you from posting stupid shit with no backup, trying to foment more unrest.

 

[JSt0rm]

lol - what a bunch of tools. 3/4 or more of this is bullshit run by SJWs looking for a cheap trick.

The Asian girl assaulted in Minny? Fake

The Hijab ripped off? Fake

If there is no video, it didn't happen.

The graffiti and such, if you don't have a video of who did it, how do you know it's not more Birddogging from the DNC/Moveon? They have *FAR* more motivation to do that shit.

Finally we get to see skepticism from lk. I will expect 4 years of this from you.

 

[Sunburn74]

I suspect it'll only get worse. Will be interesting to see Paul Ryan's response after all that stuff he said earlier during the campaigns.

 

[1prophet]

Trump was elected by rural racist whites. The end.

Trump got elected because millions of democrats that stayed home just like this guy who didn't bother voting.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/colin-kaepernick-didnt-vote_us_5823a553e4b0e80b02ceb707

Hillary had this in the bag if the many millions that came out for Obama twice bothered to vote.

 

[Ns1]

Trump got elected because millions of democrats that stayed home just like this guy who didn't bother voting.

Hillary had this in the bag if the many millions that came out for Obama twice bothered to vote.

Well to be fair, if Colin lives in CA his vote wouldn't have mattered since CA was already in the bag.

I hate those dems that didn't vote in swing states though.

 

[LegendKiller]

I suspect it'll only get worse. Will be interesting to see Paul Ryan's response after all that stuff he said earlier during the campaigns.

It will get worse. The false reporting, birddogging...etc will get worse because liberals know they are painted into a corner. They tried to play Identity Politics above all else and got their asses handed to them.

Never go into a gunfight holding a knife.

 

[zinfamous]

Trump was elected because huge numbers of rural racist whites voted for him. A few quislings are irrelevant. Rural racist whites is the only take home here.

It honestly seems to me that Obama voters and historic dem voters that were "a lock" for Hilary voted for Trump.

It seems that the margin in MI is now less than 1k votes? That's nuts. The margin in PA and WI are also quite small.

If racists were a real factor now, they were certainly a factor in 08 and 12, when a legit black man Kenyan muslim non-American was running. But the very same people in the very same counties in MI, WI, PA that voted for that black man muslim Kenyan also voted for Donald Trump.

Did racists vote for Donald Trump? absolutely. did he "draw them out of the woodwork" like many argued? His vote total was lower than McCain's and Romney's, so I don't think they are a factor in the end. They didn't flip this election one bit. Obama and assumed Hilary voters (pretty much Bernie supporters in the primary) did, though.

 

[Exterous]

Failing the middle class so badly that their wages were going up and unemployment was below 5%. Not hard to figure out what was really going on.

Its probably not hard to figure out if you don't bother to be informed about the entire picture. You might want to look at where those jobs are being created. Its gotten incredibly centralized leaving large swaths of America that still haven't or have only barely recovered. Unemployment and wages are typically reported as an aggregate number and are easily dominated by a few well performing locations - which is exactly what has happened.
http://www.citylab.com/politics/201...recovery-due-to-geographic-inequality/483989/
http://www.curbed.com/2016/9/13/12891472/job-growth-cities-us
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...bad-sign-for-all-but-americas-biggest-cities/

I don't think rural whites is any kind of stretch, and again, if they voted for a racist candidate, a candidate that spent five years suggesting Obama was born in Kenya, what's the distinction?

I would think its pretty obvious that you don't have to share all of the same values of a candidate to vote for them. I mean I certainly don't assume that all HC supporters are liars despite her history of high profile lies. Places like michigan were decided by people who switched sides - who were ok voting for Obama but not ok voting for Hilary. I think you'd have a hard time convincing anyone that those voters are racist

 

[zinfamous]

Failing the middle class so badly that their wages were going up and unemployment was below 5%. Not hard to figure out what was really going on.

Their wages and their employment? I think if those guys were happy with their situation they would have stuck to the same democratic fold that has kept them in their forgotten state of misery. Sure, wages have gone up for most of this country and unemployment is solid on average, but this doesn't mean it has worked for everyone.

Why should they feel all peachy because others are benefiting off their misery? I think you should try and go to those communities yourself and convince them that their misery is necessary for the benefit of everyone else. I'm sure this argument will resonate. At the very least, that would be more attention than Hillary gave them during this campaign.

 

[soundforbjt]

I wonder how the retired/ soon to be retired rural folks that voted Trump will feel when Trump destroys SS/Medicare benefits. Many boomers will be retiring soon.

 

[zinfamous]

How would you like that to occur?
Somebody says something. Then you ask them to hold on a minute. Pull out your phone. Hit record. Then ask them to repeat what they just said?

nah. what he means is he needs his basic girlfriend, O'Keefe, to put on a costume and try tot film himself "getting" someone, then editing the shit out of the footage, removing all relevant context, to prove! that he got that person. See, it's not "Real" unless it's planned, perfectly staged, and presented in the package that it was intended to sell. People actually saying stuff to actual people in public without filters and without any chance to plan the encounter is totally not legit.

This is LK's preferred method of evidence.

 

[buckshot24]

I wonder how the retired/ soon to be retired rural folks that voted Trump will feel when Trump destroys SS/Medicare benefits. Many boomers will be retiring soon.

That isn't going to happen.

 

[zinfamous]

If you were to take it to court, how would you prove it. The burden of proof is on the accuser since you are innocent until proven guilty. So prove it. .

Yeah right, numbnuts. Just like that "criminal Hilary!" in whose case, failure to prove guilt is only PROOF that everyone around her is even more guilty. Amiright?

You are so transparently useless.

She's guilty cause I just know it!

 

[soundforbjt]

That isn't going to happen.

Have you ever looked at a recent Repub budget ? They'll actually get to pass a budget now,

 

[zinfamous]

And the experiences are not verified so we have no idea whether they are manipulating public opinion to foment unrest, or whether they are actual legitimate actions. The balance of motivation is to the former, not the latter.

Spoken like a true O'Keefe nutter.

 

[zinfamous]

That isn't going to happen.

...because in your heart of hearts you never believe anything that he or establishment republicans have argued for?

that's rich.

 

[bshole]

It honestly seems to me that Obama voters and historic dem voters that were "a lock" for Hilary voted for Trump.

It seems that the margin in MI is now less than 1k votes? That's nuts. The margin in PA and WI are also quite small.

If racists were a real factor now, they were certainly a factor in 08 and 12, when a legit black man Kenyan muslim non-American was running. But the very same people in the very same counties in MI, WI, PA that voted for that black man muslim Kenyan also voted for Donald Trump.

Did racists vote for Donald Trump? absolutely. did he "draw them out of the woodwork" like many argued? His vote total was lower than McCain's and Romney's, so I don't think they are a factor in the end. They didn't flip this election one bit. Obama and assumed Hilary voters (pretty much Bernie supporters in the primary) did, though.

Bernie supporters did. There is utterly NO doubt about that. The DNC collusion was just too much for some to get over.