Day Z alpha: How the zombie apocalypse should be

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Keeper

Senior member
Mar 9, 2005
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Any idea when the stand alone is going to be ready? last night we were missing a guy from our D3 session... I played solo and my son and his GF played this.
SOUNDS FRIGGIN AWESOME. "Look, a bike, OMG. grab the bike..... 2 clics from the tent.. Run, peddle go go go ... Whats the coordinates.... Look food, how much space you got in your backpack....." WOW.... Here I am mindlessly clicking my mouse trying to farm gold so I can buy better stuff............
2 things... I would LOVE to paly with some AT'ers. So I may jump now on the MOD thingy. What exactly do I need?
and second, are the griefers as bad as it reads on the forums? I know I know its a zombie meltdown. Things are supposed to be tough. I read one guy got capped right after 4 respawns at the ocean/beach.

UMMMM that equals frustrration....
 

Josh123

Diamond Member
Aug 4, 2002
3,030
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Any idea when the stand alone is going to be ready? last night we were missing a guy from our D3 session... I played solo and my son and his GF played this.
SOUNDS FRIGGIN AWESOME. "Look, a bike, OMG. grab the bike..... 2 clics from the tent.. Run, peddle go go go ... Whats the coordinates.... Look food, how much space you got in your backpack....." WOW.... Here I am mindlessly clicking my mouse trying to farm gold so I can buy better stuff............
2 things... I would LOVE to paly with some AT'ers. So I may jump now on the MOD thingy. What exactly do I need?
and second, are the griefers as bad as it reads on the forums? I know I know its a zombie meltdown. Things are supposed to be tough. I read one guy got capped right after 4 respawns at the ocean/beach.

UMMMM that equals frustrration....

Wat?
 

Keeper

Senior member
Mar 9, 2005
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the game is coming out as a stand alone... I went to both web sites. Didn't find a date.
I see the Anandtech goup is starting a clan. I want.

And, if the stand alonne is months away. What do I need to play this?

I listened in last night to my son and his GF playing this... We were all supposed to play D3 but were missing a guy. so they played Dayz.
SOUNDS awesome.
 

thespyder

Golden Member
Aug 31, 2006
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I guess i just don't get this game. I watched a video of some guys playing it. From what I saw, it was an instanced world with other players wandering around it. while I get that, isn't it likely to turn out like most other MMOs out there where there are large concentrations of other players? And then how is that like a 'Real Zombie Apocalypse?' I could see a HUGE world with 20-30 actual humans running around trying to survive. But it it gets to be hundreds (or more), how much fun will it be? And the more popular it gets, the more likely that is to happen. Unless I am missing something.
 

sygyzy

Lifer
Oct 21, 2000
14,001
4
76
I guess i just don't get this game. I watched a video of some guys playing it. From what I saw, it was an instanced world with other players wandering around it. while I get that, isn't it likely to turn out like most other MMOs out there where there are large concentrations of other players? And then how is that like a 'Real Zombie Apocalypse?' I could see a HUGE world with 20-30 actual humans running around trying to survive. But it it gets to be hundreds (or more), how much fun will it be? And the more popular it gets, the more likely that is to happen. Unless I am missing something.

There are not "hundreds" of humans running around.
 

ScottAD

Senior member
Jan 10, 2007
735
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The amount of people allowed is based on server. Some servers run 40 people some 100. You can't run in to a server with thousands of players.
 

Dankk

Diamond Member
Jul 7, 2008
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while I get that, isn't it likely to turn out like most other MMOs out there where there are large concentrations of other players? And then how is that like a 'Real Zombie Apocalypse?' I could see a HUGE world with 20-30 actual humans running around trying to survive. But it it gets to be hundreds (or more), how much fun will it be? And the more popular it gets, the more likely that is to happen. Unless I am missing something.

Yes, you're missing a couple things:

1) DayZ isn't an MMO, and was never intended as such.

2) There won't be hundreds (or more) people running around the world, because regular servers only allow for 50 players max.

You're right, having too many people inside of a single server would ruin the lonely, "zombie apocalypse" feel of the game. Human interaction is one of the most interesting aspects of DayZ because it's so intense and unpredictable.

Encountering zombies is one thing; but when you encounter another human player, it's 100x scarier. How are they going to react? Are they friendly, or will they shoot you on sight? Will they let you join their survivor party so you can scavenge with them? Or will they simply kill you for your supplies?

Imagine a large-scale zombie-apocalypse where all society, government, and rules break down. Encountering total strangers is dangerous because they can do anything to you with no consequence. DayZ tries to emulate that.
 

thespyder

Golden Member
Aug 31, 2006
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Yes, you're missing a couple things:

1) DayZ isn't an MMO, and was never intended as such.

2) There won't be hundreds (or more) people running around the world, because regular servers only allow for 50 players max.

You're right, having too many people inside of a single server would ruin the lonely, "zombie apocalypse" feel of the game. Human interaction is one of the most interesting aspects of DayZ because it's so intense and unpredictable.

Encountering zombies is one thing; but when you encounter another human player, it's 100x scarier. How are they going to react? Are they friendly, or will they shoot you on sight? Will they let you join their survivor party so you can scavenge with them? Or will they simply kill you for your supplies?

Imagine a large-scale zombie-apocalypse where all society, government, and rules break down. Encountering total strangers is dangerous because they can do anything to you with no consequence. DayZ tries to emulate that.

See, all of this sounds very compelling. And the type of game I might enjoy. Watching the video, I thought I might just have to look into it. But then I got to thinking that someone might get the idea to make it a MMO style and what would that do to the game play.

Thanks for steering me in the right direction.
 

rgallant

Golden Member
Apr 14, 2007
1,361
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Any idea when the stand alone is going to be ready? last night we were missing a guy from our D3 session... I played solo and my son and his GF played this.
SOUNDS FRIGGIN AWESOME. "Look, a bike, OMG. grab the bike..... 2 clics from the tent.. Run, peddle go go go ... Whats the coordinates.... Look food, how much space you got in your backpack....." WOW.... Here I am mindlessly clicking my mouse trying to farm gold so I can buy better stuff............
2 things... I would LOVE to paly with some AT'ers. So I may jump now on the MOD thingy. What exactly do I need?
and second, are the griefers as bad as it reads on the forums? I know I know its a zombie meltdown. Things are supposed to be tough. I read one guy got capped right after 4 respawns at the ocean/beach.

UMMMM that equals frustrration....


haha grievers no problem, ran to my first hackers.

I just got killed 5 mins ago @ staroye

-day 4 - just got a nice alice pack that was all I needed and was Heading out of town , heard a helo passing [70m]on the other side of the house where I was laying waiting for some zeds to pass when bullets started coming though the house , so I stand up to run ,then transport to some woods in a fixed prone position then killed with a sledge hammer by some big bald head goon like WTF. none of which is in the game. can't believe it as I was 300m from town center.

-mistake's I made

heard gun shots 15 mins before this happen and why I was leaving town , but should have ran. but I did not have eye sight on the helo so they had player spot on
-should of ran when I first heard the helo , pass the zeds
-should have remained maybe in the prone location as they might have been shooting at me , just to get me up so they could get a fix on me.
-started the server with 8\40 but did not check the player stats for any updates ,when I went back to the lobby there now apox. 25 , so might have been the clan making room for their buds .

-will pass on this crxp for a while. too many really sick people in this game.
 
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smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
27,024
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Is SixUpdater still the best way to get this game? I just got my new PC up and running and want to install this.
 

VulgarDisplay

Diamond Member
Apr 3, 2009
6,188
2
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I wouldn't expect the stand alone version of DayZ to come out for quite a while. When I hear standalone game I see them starting with the Arma 3 engine, and making all new art assets, and a new world from the ground up.

I would say we'll see the actual game in about 2 years.
 

coldmeat

Diamond Member
Jul 10, 2007
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I wouldn't expect the stand alone version of DayZ to come out for quite a while. When I hear standalone game I see them starting with the Arma 3 engine, and making all new art assets, and a new world from the ground up.

I would say we'll see the actual game in about 2 years.

Didn't Rocket say he already had it running on the arma 3 engine?
 

Andrew111

Senior member
Aug 6, 2001
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haha grievers no problem, ran to my first hackers.

I just got killed 5 mins ago @ staroye

-day 4 - just got a nice alice pack that was all I needed and was Heading out of town , heard a helo passing [70m]on the other side of the house where I was laying waiting for some zeds to pass when bullets started coming though the house , so I stand up to run ,then transport to some woods in a fixed prone position then killed with a sledge hammer by some big bald head goon like WTF. none of which is in the game. can't believe it as I was 300m from town center.

-mistake's I made

heard gun shots 15 mins before this happen and why I was leaving town , but should have ran. but I did not have eye sight on the helo so they had player spot on
-should of ran when I first heard the helo , pass the zeds
-should have remained maybe in the prone location as they might have been shooting at me , just to get me up so they could get a fix on me.
-started the server with 8\40 but did not check the player stats for any updates ,when I went back to the lobby there now apox. 25 , so might have been the clan making room for their buds .

-will pass on this crxp for a while. too many really sick people in this game.

It doesn't matter if you are spotted or not by a script kiddie....they can enable all player locations and see you on the map. Here's a video of the skiddie program commonly used:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ADQpzPDBGI

Can do virtually anything...pretty pathetic that anyone that joins a server can have that much control and execute such scripts. I could get the game allowing server admins to change settings but the huge issue with exploiting in this game is due to the amount of stuff allowed to be executed by the client...and then it isn't even checked by the server to ensure it is a proper action.
 

Red Storm

Lifer
Oct 2, 2005
14,233
234
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It doesn't matter if you are spotted or not by a script kiddie....they can enable all player locations and see you on the map. Here's a video of the skiddie program commonly used:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ADQpzPDBGI

Can do virtually anything...pretty pathetic that anyone that joins a server can have that much control and execute such scripts. I could get the game allowing server admins to change settings but the huge issue with exploiting in this game is due to the amount of stuff allowed to be executed by the client...and then it isn't even checked by the server to ensure it is a proper action.

I take it this one reason they're doing a standalone game? Or will that have no effect on the cheating?
 

Harrod

Golden Member
Apr 3, 2010
1,900
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Dayz Commander is the way to go, it makes getting into servers much easier than using the ingame browser.

I really can't wait until I get pulled into another hacked game, as soon as it happens I am going to abort out of the game, then login an hour later in the same server and pick up all of the dead players stuff.
 

VulgarDisplay

Diamond Member
Apr 3, 2009
6,188
2
76
Didn't Rocket say he already had it running on the arma 3 engine?

I would still imagine that they will make a whole new world, new art assets, and sounds and the like.

I'm not familiar with the Arma 3 engine, but maybe doing all that will not take long. Could be wrong and we'll see it soon.
 

leeland

Diamond Member
Dec 12, 2000
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76
Just skimming through this post (never heard of the two games mentioned...)

This sounds like an awesome game...is it something you can just pick up and play or is it best to have a crew to roll with?

I can't see much from work, just wondering so when I get home I can review what is needed and how much it costs.

Thanks!
 

SphinxnihpS

Diamond Member
Feb 17, 2005
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Just skimming through this post (never heard of the two games mentioned...)

This sounds like an awesome game...is it something you can just pick up and play or is it best to have a crew to roll with?

I can't see much from work, just wondering so when I get home I can review what is needed and how much it costs.

Thanks!

One of the things that make this game so good is that you are better off alone unless your goal is to rob. The odds are far greater some idiot will do something stupid too close to you and get everyone killed, than helping in any meaningful way. Goods are very scarce too, so it's hard for a group to find all it needs to survive unless they already all have it. Even robbing you are better off alone imo. I have yet to be counter-sniped by a group.

As it stands there is very little incentive, other than camaraderie, to group up. Perhaps if the game adds an overarching goal which can only be obtained through cooperation, teaming up will be advantageous, but until then...
 

ScottAD

Senior member
Jan 10, 2007
735
77
91
Was pulled in to a hacked game. Couldn't abort though. Didn't lose much just yanno coyote backpack, AS50, Bizon.... /sarcasm

I'm glad the new patch is out. No more artifacting!

Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk 2
 

ApexBoost

Member
May 5, 2011
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Is anyone having problems getting the new patch through DayZ Commander? It doesn't seem to pick up on the update and gives me the "File names don't match expected path" error.
 

rgallant

Golden Member
Apr 14, 2007
1,361
11
81
It doesn't matter if you are spotted or not by a script kiddie....they can enable all player locations and see you on the map. Here's a video of the skiddie program commonly used:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ADQpzPDBGI

Can do virtually anything...pretty pathetic that anyone that joins a server can have that much control and execute such scripts. I could get the game allowing server admins to change settings but the huge issue with exploiting in this game is due to the amount of stuff allowed to be executed by the client...and then it isn't even checked by the server to ensure it is a proper action.


yea thanks
didn't know it was that bad , like some guy's having multi hack's in one night on different servers ,checked some hacking vids re scripts for sale just to see what they could do , the game is a total mess , not sure why player screen shots of players would take so long to ban these guys ,
or the scripts , being basic arma options\code just made active by the scripts[my laymen s understanding] , like auto kill player using it and report it \ ban player when this any code [non dayz game] is used.-let the player sort it out. with admin. if in error.

but hey they gave us bear traps last patch lol that's what I would do if given the choice of spending my time writing anti. script code from all the hacking or adding something as exciting like adding bear traps.
-maybe for next patch maybe they will make the out house's function [add a urine icon], so when you get killed by a hacker you can have a empty bladder.

I'll see what happens in the next patch ,
 
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