DEA moves Vicodin to a schedule 2 drug.

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BUTCH1

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Had a discussion about this with my wife. She's a pharmacist and involved with a bunch of case studies and discussion groups on these types of things. A few years back there was a major push in Heroin overdoses. They went back and started looking at the data and they all started spiking when Oxycodone was reformulated for "sustained release". The reformulation was really there so that it couldn't be crushed up and snorted or cooked down for IV use.

They are bracing for another wave of Heroin OD's after this legislature goes through.

Yea, I worked at Colonial Management Group for about 9 months, they treat addicts with methadone, my boss had said the same thing. FL, once one of the easiest states to get Oxycontin, roxycodone, Vicoden finally got a computer database installed and started shutting down the "pill mills", this led to a huge rise in heroin usage as the pills were either unobtainable or so expensive heroin was cheaper to use. As for CMG I don't think they tried very hard (or at all) to get people weaned off the methadone, it's a huge profit machine, they pay $25/liter for it and sell individual doses @15.50, anywhere from 5mg to 350mg depending on the persons tolerance.
 

jhansman

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Yes! More laws to protect us. Thank God we have intelligent legislators and brilliant bureaucracies to keep us from harming ourselves with the drugs the government oversees and approves.

Wait a minute....
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
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That is a lot harder to do, if those kind of stats are even tracked. Similar to have slowing guns going to criminals would be better combated cracking down on gun dealers illegally selling guns, rather than legislation. But, common sense hardly prevails when emotions are involved.

Oh believe me, those stats are very closely scrutinized by the DEA, if your writing a lot of pain scripts they will ask for patient records to see if you are "correctly" prescribing them, a lot of doctors are terrified of the DEA to the point that they won't write very many (some none) scripts at all.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Say someone still had a stash in their fridge leftover from their last stupid person trick the value of that stash just went up, right?
 

lupi

Lifer
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Have a couple bottles still of oxy, vicodine, and demeral. Guess it's time to cash in!
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
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Is Vicodin not the one that is packaged with the liver poison paracetamol built in?


Yes. Percocet, Vicodin, Tylenol + codeine all have liver destroying and legal over the counter paracetamol. I believe more people die from liver failure over time from abusing these drugs than from an overdose of the narcotic. Just one more of our 'solutions' to combat drug abuse.
 

utahraptor

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Apr 26, 2004
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Yes. Percocet, Vicodin, Tylenol + codeine all have liver destroying and legal over the counter paracetamol. I believe more people die from liver failure over time from abusing these drugs than from an overdose of the narcotic. Just one more of our 'solutions' to combat drug abuse.

That's what I thought. After wisdom teeth extraction and then a crown recently I have full bottles of the shit that I can't take because I drink too much.
 

smackababy

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That's what I thought. After wisdom teeth extraction and then a crown recently I have full bottles of the shit that I can't take because I drink too much.

Yeah, I got like a 30 day supply of Percocet when I got my wisdom teeth removed. I think I took two...
 

lupi

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We should move all drug abusers to lortab. If you can enjoy drinking that shit, more power to your addiction.
 
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