DEA Outlaws chemicals used to make K2

TechBoyJK

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http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/24/dea-outlaws-chemicals-used-to-make-synthetic-marijuana/?hpt=T2

DEA outlaws chemicals used to make synthetic marijuana
The DEA has taken emergency action to outlaw chemicals used to make synthetic marijuana, meaning it will be illegal to possess or sell them in the U.S. for at least one year, until further action is taken.

The chemicals used to make "fake pot" products, also known as K2, will be studied by the Department of Health and Human Services to determine whether the chemicals and the products should be permanently controlled, the DEA said.

"Over the past year, smokable herbal blends marketed as being 'legal' and providing a marijuana-like high, have become increasingly popular, particularly among teens and young adults," the DEA said in a statement."These products consist of plant material that has been coated with research chemicals that mimic THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, and are sold at a variety of retail outlets, in head shops and over the Internet. These chemicals, however, have not been approved by the FDA for human consumption, and there is no oversight of the manufacturing process.
 

Patranus

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Unelected bureaucrats telling me what to do with my body.

Isn't this "progressive" America wonderful?
 

spidey07

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I'm confused. They can't regulate the homepathy and herbal stuff for human consumption, but they can this? Why not just call it a "natural relaxation treatment" and be scott free?
 

TechBoyJK

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It's probably DEA Admin Michele Leonhart

“I have seen what marijuana use has done to young people, I have seen the abuse, I have seen what it’s done to families. It’s bad,” Leonhart said.

She thinks Marijuana is one of the worst drugs and is firmly against it.
 

CrackRabbit

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I'm confused. They can't regulate the homepathy and herbal stuff for human consumption, but they can this? Why not just call it a "natural relaxation treatment" and be scott free?

The homeopathy stuff falls under the jurisdiction of the USDA, not the DEA.

I'm not entirely sure why the DEA was given free reign over this as it should be a USDA regulation issue.
 

bamacre

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Damn, the Democrats sure love banning stuff. Happy meals, now "fake pot."

They're about as socially liberal as the Republicans, i.e., they aren't.
 

Amused

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Damn, the Democrats sure love banning stuff. Happy meals, now "fake pot."

They're about as socially liberal as the Republicans, i.e., they aren't.

Bingo!

In fact, they're worse. Much worse.
 

surfsatwerk

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I was under the impression that it is a fairly simple process to slightly alter the chemical formula for "K2", thus avoiding the ban and still providing the high.
 

spidey07

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Why does the DEA have the legal right to do this?

Patranus already explained it. The problem is all the power these various agencies have without legislative/congressional approval.

But they are all for your own good, don't you know! We are here to protect you!
 

bfdd

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Patranus already explained it. The problem is all the power these various agencies have without legislative/congressional approval.

But they are all for your own good, don't you know! We are here to protect you!

Didn't you state driving was a privilege?
 

spidey07

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Didn't you state driving was a privilege?

And I've never heard of any transportation agency telling me what I can and cannot do/drive on private property.

The EPA can force what fuel is deemed poisonous along with materials to stop the car (brakes)
The DEA can stop the sale of a fuel that is used to make meth
The FDA can tell me I can't distill my own fuel

But no transportation agency has such far reaching powers into private lives on private property as the ones mentioned.
 

bfdd

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And I've never heard of any transportation agency telling me what I can and cannot do/drive on private property.

The EPA can force what fuel is deemed poisonous along with materials to stop the car (brakes)
The DEA can stop the sale of a fuel that is used to make meth
The FDA can tell me I can't distill my own fuel

But no transportation agency has such far reaching powers into private lives on private property as the ones mentioned.

The Department of Transportation has a list of what cars are street legal and which are not street legal in the USA. They can take your car at the port if it's an illegal vehicle. You don't get any sort of real choice in the vehicles you wish to drive, they give you a list to choose from. What were you saying about no transportation agency has such far reaching powers again? What's the DMV exactly?
 

SN4p

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The Department of Transportation has a list of what cars are street legal and which are not street legal in the USA. They can take your car at the port if it's an illegal vehicle. You don't get any sort of real choice in the vehicles you wish to drive, they give you a list to choose from. What were you saying about no transportation agency has such far reaching powers again? What's the DMV exactly?

They can't seize a car just because it isn't street legal. There are plenty of non street legal track built cars out there.
 

spidey07

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The Department of Transportation has a list of what cars are street legal and which are not street legal in the USA. They can take your car at the port if it's an illegal vehicle. You don't get any sort of real choice in the vehicles you wish to drive, they give you a list to choose from. What were you saying about no transportation agency has such far reaching powers again? What's the DMV exactly?

Don't deflect, street legal and DMV don't pertain to private property. I can build a top fuel dragster if I wanted and race it on a private track to 280 mph running on nitromethane.
 

TechBoyJK

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They can't seize a car just because it isn't street legal. There are plenty of non street legal track built cars out there.

He didn't say they could confiscate cars that aren't street legal. He mentioned street legal in his first sentence, but the second sentence, which you are questioning, he simply said "illegal". Just because a car is not street legal does not make it illegal altogether.
 
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