*DEAD* Antec Black/ Silver 0.8mm cold-rolled steel case + Earthwatts 380W PS - $45 shipped @ Newegg

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DAMN YOU JEWEGG !!!!!!

3 weeks ago. $65 shipped. Buy.com -_- I fn hate sales like this, buyers remourse always grabs me -_-

I hope all you that get this case for $20 less than I paid have the PSU arrive DOA !!
 

konakona

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as usual, CV has it for the same price. if you needed 2, you could get two from CV for a grand $4 less for you CA residents, you dont get hit by the tax if you order from CV right?
 

ss284

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Originally posted by: Dazed and Confused
I hope all you that get this case for $20 less than I paid have the PSU arrive DOA !!

I hope you arrive DOA.

 

kinev

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Nice deal. Some reviews have said that it's really small, but that it still fits an ATX motherboard...barely. Throw in the PS and I'll take a chance.
 

fleshconsumed

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I wouldn't get too excited about this deal or upset if you can't get it.

The case is on the cheap side with thin panels that rattle. Solo for example has curved sides on the side panels which immensely help rigidity, this case side panels are just plain sheet of metal, it rattles and wobbles. This case also does not have proper ventilation for hard drives, and if you have full sized ATX motherboard you can only install optical drives in the upper two two bays making the third 5.25 bay almost useless. The power supply is 80+ but a little noisy for my tastes, although most people would probably consider it quiet.

All in all you get what you pay for. This is a cheap case and you should only consider it for budget builds.
 

konakona

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Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
I wouldn't get too excited about this deal or upset if you can't get it.

The case is on the cheap side with thin panels that rattle. Solo for example has curved sides on the side panels which immensely help rigidity, this case side panels are just plain sheet of metal, it rattles and wobbles. This case also does not have proper ventilation for hard drives, and if you have full sized ATX motherboard you can only install optical drives in the upper two two bays making the third 5.25 bay almost useless. The power supply is 80+ but a little noisy for my tastes, although most people would probably consider it quiet.

All in all you get what you pay for. This is a cheap case and you should only consider it for budget builds.

I have the same PSU (seasonic OEM) on my main rig, and IIRC, this one, S12 and the corsair unit were nearly identical unless put under heavy load. there were some lengthy threads discussing that, I barely remember it now.
 

jjmIII

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AWESOME Case!!

I have a spare sitting here......do I need another??

EDIT: *uck, bought another. Bought 4gb DDR2, and an external 250gb 2.5" hdd last night. I need to lay off the "deals" for awhile!!
 

htne

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Originally posted by: jjmIII
AWESOME Case!!

I have a spare sitting here......do I need another??

Of course you do. I just purchased one, everyone should buy one so I don't feel all alone.
 

jiffer

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The EarthWatts 380W power supply is so quiet, I can't even hear the fan running. The 120mm TriCool case fan is also pretty quiet when it is set to the slowest speed, and I can still feel the air coming out of the case. There are vent holes directly in front of the hard drive cage, so I think the hard drive gets plenty of air, as long as you don't mount the hard drive all the way to the front of the case.

This case is nice if you like having a compact minitower case. It is about 2" shorter than most cases from the front of the case to the back of the case. Unfortunately, that means that the interior is cramped. Due to the position of the hard drive cage, any video card (no matter how large or small) has a tendency to interfere with the hard drive cables, no matter which drive bay you use. It is difficult to install a full-length video card, and there's really only enough room for one hard drive. I usually mount the hard drive in the middle 3.5" internal bay. At the top of the case, there's really only enough room for one optical drive due to the way I route my cables. On the positive side, there are two external 3.5" bays, so you can install a card reader as well as a floppy drive.

As with most cases, there's plenty of air flow inside the case as long as you bundle and route all of the cables in a professional manner. (I use about 30-40 4" cable ties, and it takes me about half an hour, but it might take a lot longer if you're doing it for the first time.) Basically, I tie all of the power supply cables into one long bundle with some of the longer ones doubled back to shorten them, with various connectors branching off like tree limbs from the main "trunk", which lies next to the front end of motherboard. I twist the cables for the front panel connectors into one bundle, and I use round drive cables for the floppy drive and IDE optical drive. I tie the ends of the SATA cables into a "J" so that the cables run back under the hard drive instead of sticking out away from the hard drive, which reduces interference with the video card. You can stop the rattling of the side panels with the strategic use of small pieces of electrical tape, but I agree that the design of the side panels is poor.

I wouldn't say the case is "perfect", but if you have an ATX or MicroATX motherboard, a small video card, one hard drive, a DVD burner, a card reader, and a floppy drive, you'll have a nice-looking compact computer wirh a full-size 80+ power supply. I decided a long time ago it's easier and a lot less expensive to use a case like this than it is to use a cube case or a slimline case.
 

SAWYER

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Oh this is the Earthwatts 380??? I bought this for my my pc a few onths ago for 40 or 50 by itself, and it is very nice. This makes the deal even better for me!
 

fleshconsumed

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Originally posted by: konakona
I have the same PSU (seasonic OEM) on my main rig, and IIRC, this one, S12 and the corsair unit were nearly identical unless put under heavy load. there were some lengthy threads discussing that, I barely remember it now.

Here's what SPCR had to say about this PSU:
"Although the Earth Watts has almost the same starting voltage as the Neo HE, it was slightly but audibly louder at minimum speed. Most significantly, it produced a low hum that was absent in the Neo HE. The measured difference may only have been 2 dBA@1m, but the subjective difference was easy to notice. That's not to say that the Earth Watts was loud, exactly, but it didn't quite fall into the "practically inaudible" category that made the Neo HE so special."

I have all three, Earthwatts PSU, NeoHE and S12/S12+ Seasonics and I have to agree with SPCR on this one. While not particularly loud, this PSU is noticeably louder than NeoHE/S12 and plainly audible in a quiet room.

Most people are not as critical about sound so they are not going to notice it. Me on the other hand, I just don't know where to use it.

If someone from western Chicago burbs wants to get silver/black NSK-4480, I can sell it to you at the same $45. Comes with everything except the box, near pristine condition, only used for couple of days before I got another case.

 

jiffer

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Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
I have to agree with SPCR on this one. While not particularly loud, this PSU is noticeably louder than NeoHE/S12 and plainly audible in a quiet room.

Most people are not as critical about sound so they are not going to notice it. Me on the other hand, I just don't know where to use it.
The main reason I don't notice any noise from the EarthWatts PSU is because any noise it makes is completely drowned out by any of the following: video card cooler, hard drive, and CPU cooler (usually in that order). In other words, the PSU is the least of my concerns when it comes to noise.

If you're going to take extreme (and probably costly) measures to reduce PC noise--namely, by making sure that ALL of your components are quiet--then you probably need to avoid a "budget" case like this one, so I guess we agree on that.


Also, I just noticed that SPCR reviewed the Antec EarthWatts EA-430, not the EA-380. Which one do you have? Do you know if there's any difference between them when it comes to noise? I've heard that the 500W model is louder than the other two.
 

fleshconsumed

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I've got 380W version that came with the case. I'm pretty sure they are all going to sound more or less the same, but I can't confirm it.
 

konakona

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you are right, I think I mixed HE and EW up. I should get the fan changed someday

jiffer, I have both EWs and they sound the same to me.
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: Sawyer
Oh this is the Earthwatts 380???

Yeah, any Antec New Solutions (NSK) series case that comes with a PSU will usually have an EarthWatts. Also, the Sonata variant that comes with a 500W PSU has an EarthWatts. Cases that comes with 550W-650W PSUs have True Power Trio.

Originally posted by: jiffer
I use about 30-40 4" cable ties

:shocked: Holy... that's a lot of cable ties. I get 'em cheap at Big Lots, but I still only use about 8-10 of them per build.
 
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