*DEAD* Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego $80 shipped

[Crucial]

I am in a bind. I have an AGP x800xt pe, 2gb pc3200, and a S754 3200+. I have been wanting to speed up my system but can't justify spending the money on a whole new system. My video card is good enough for the little gaming I do and my ddr is still good. This would be reasonable if I could find a cheap but good 939 agp board.

 

[VooDooAddict]

Originally posted by: Crucial
I am in a bind. I have an AGP x800xt pe, 2gb pc3200, and a S754 3200+. I have been wanting to speed up my system but can't justify spending the money on a whole new system. My video card is good enough for the little gaming I do and my ddr is still good. This would be reasonable if I could find a cheap but good 939 agp board.

If you are happy with the video card I'd just hold off till you want to replace the vid card. If you wanted to replace the vid card too ... then this would be a great way for you to make a budget move to PCIe while keeping your 2GB DDR400 investment.

 

[Crucial]

Originally posted by: VooDooAddict

Originally posted by: Crucial
I am in a bind. I have an AGP x800xt pe, 2gb pc3200, and a S754 3200+. I have been wanting to speed up my system but can't justify spending the money on a whole new system. My video card is good enough for the little gaming I do and my ddr is still good. This would be reasonable if I could find a cheap but good 939 agp board.

If you are happy with the video card I'd just hold off till you want to replace the vid card. If you wanted to replace the vid card too ... then this would be a great way for you to make a budget move to PCIe while keeping your 2GB DDR400 investment.

My only issue is that I have been doing more video stuff and it seems incredibly slow. I think I will have to suffer through it until I have to replace everything at once. I just hate to have to spend $1000 on parts.

 

[Jaxidian]

Originally posted by: Crucial
I am in a bind. I have an AGP x800xt pe, 2gb pc3200, and a S754 3200+. I have been wanting to speed up my system but can't justify spending the money on a whole new system. My video card is good enough for the little gaming I do and my ddr is still good. This would be reasonable if I could find a cheap but good 939 agp board.

If I were you, I think I'd buy this CPU and go get one of the Asrock dual-video slot mobos. They're excellent mobo's and hands down the best AGP/PCI-e mobo out there! I've ran one in my second gaming box for the past year or so and have never regretted it since!

 

[Crucial]

Originally posted by: Jaxidian

Originally posted by: Crucial
I am in a bind. I have an AGP x800xt pe, 2gb pc3200, and a S754 3200+. I have been wanting to speed up my system but can't justify spending the money on a whole new system. My video card is good enough for the little gaming I do and my ddr is still good. This would be reasonable if I could find a cheap but good 939 agp board.

If I were you, I think I'd buy this CPU and go get one of the Asrock dual-video slot mobos. They're excellent mobo's and hands down the best AGP/PCI-e mobo out there! I've ran one in my second gaming box for the past year or so and have never regretted it since!

I'm having a hard time finding one in stock. I take it you are talking about the 939Dual-VSTA

 

[Zap]

Got my 4000+ in today. It OCs better than both my FX-55 chips (all three San Diego core). My two FX-55 gets to 2.8 and 2.9GHz, doing some quick testing in 100MHz increments with ½ hour burn-in testing runs. The first won't do 2.9GHz and the second won't do 3.0GHz at the 1.55V I was willing to pump.

My 4000+ at 1.525v does... 3.18GHz. Cheap and fast, like a date I once had.

 

[eplebnista]

Originally posted by: Zap
Cheap and fast, like a date I once had.

rofl

 

[brockj]

Finally bit, seems that some of the other places are selling out...any thoughts?

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: brockj
seems that some of the other places are selling out...any thoughts?

Well, IIRC these are out of production after all. From now on probably only Opterons for socket 939, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Here's my gaming rig getting the 4000+ installed (along with a better PSU).

 

[wazzledoozle]

Personally, I would go with the Opteron 165 for ~$155 at newegg right now. The steppings are hitting ~3 ghz on stock voltage!

 

[Crucial]

Whats an inexpensive quiet but effective heatsink/fan for this. I am going to pick one up with a 939dual-vsta.

 

[nyker96]

single cores are getting cheaper and cheaper and ...

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: wazzledoozle
Personally, I would go with the Opteron 165 for ~$155 at newegg right now. The steppings are hitting ~3 ghz on stock voltage!

Well, they probably won't do that on my gaming rig. That Biostar Tforce is pretty strong up to 300MHz HTT, but not much more past that because Vcore seems to droop a lot. Ah well, I'm running at around 3.2GHz right now on the 4000+. May lower it though because my RAM errors at these speeds (CAS 2 at around DDR 455-460MHz) so I have to take it down a notch (now at DDR 355). No in-between setting, but if I drop CPU by 100MHz my RAM can go back up to about DDR440 CAS 2. Decisions, decisions. I'm gonna run it at 3.2GHz at the LAN tonight and decide later.

 

[Amputater]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: wazzledoozle
Personally, I would go with the Opteron 165 for ~$155 at newegg right now. The steppings are hitting ~3 ghz on stock voltage!

Well, they probably won't do that on my gaming rig. That Biostar Tforce is pretty strong up to 300MHz HTT, but not much more past that because Vcore seems to droop a lot. Ah well, I'm running at around 3.2GHz right now on the 4000+. May lower it though because my RAM errors at these speeds (CAS 2 at around DDR 455-460MHz) so I have to take it down a notch (now at DDR 355). No in-between setting, but if I drop CPU by 100MHz my RAM can go back up to about DDR440 CAS 2. Decisions, decisions. I'm gonna run it at 3.2GHz at the LAN tonight and decide later.

Zap, your board is NOT the Biostar TForce6100-939 correct? The TForce6100-939 is green and blue, and from what I heard, they are great overclocking boards. Which model do you have?

 

[Zap]

Yes I have the Tforce6100-939. It is a great overclocking board for a mATX, but the voltage sags and fluctuates a bit more than, say, my DFI LANPARTY Expert board. I would have to run my board at 355MHz HTT to get that Opteron 144 to around 3.2GHz, and I'm not sure that the board can do it, let alone the processor - though I'll test that CPU on my Expert board when I get a chance. These Biostar boards seem to top out around 320-330MHz HTT, though I had one that strangely wouldn't do past about 280MHz HTT (and one DOA :| ). I've now owned about five of the socket 939 versions, two of the socket 754 versions and one socket AM2 version of the Tforce6100 board.

 

[agathodaimon]

Just ordered my 4000 the other day. I couldn't believe the price.
This will be the last hurrah for my 939 board before I move to
dual core in the next year or so.
At $79 shipped, I couldn't pass it up. I remember when these things
cost several hundred dollars.

Think I'll see a decent gaming improvement over my Athlon 3200+?

 

[VooDooAddict]

Originally posted by: agathodaimon
Just ordered my 4000 the other day. I couldn't believe the price.
This will be the last hurrah for my 939 board before I move to
dual core in the next year or so.
At $79 shipped, I couldn't pass it up. I remember when these things
cost several hundred dollars.

Think I'll see a decent gaming improvement over my Athlon 3200+?

Will depend greatly on the game, resolution, and where you had bottle necks before.

What game and was it just overall low frame rates? or spikes of slowdowns?

 

[agathodaimon]

My video card is an X800GTO2 (unlocked & overclocked).
I don't ever run anything over 1024x768 on my little 17-inch monitor.

I haven't had "many" slowdowns, but have encountered some recently in WH40K Dawn of War and Company of Heroes.
I have Quake 4, and the game really runs great with all the settings turned up.

So I'm thinking that since the games it slows down on are RTS games, that it's my CPU.

 

[cubeless]

more cpu can help on rts... i upped the kids' pc from 2.3 a64 to 2.8 opteron and got a nice improvement in playability... especially with busy battles... maybe mips, maybe cache, i dunno...

am in for one of these and the cheap msi mobo from other thread to upgr other kid pc... we'll see if it oc's well...

 

[kalster]

what is a good motherboard for this that has AGP?

 

[Zap]

So anyone else get their chips? What overclocks are you seeing?

 

[IEC]

I'm seriously regretting buying a 3200+ Winchester from a forum member in June for $99... single core prices are dropping like crazy

Might have to sell it for about $40 and buy a Opty 165 off FS/FT or an OEM part from Newegg for $130-$140

 

[agathodaimon]

should be getting mine tomorrow, but probably won't dabble much in overclocking.

 

[brockj]

I got mine yesterday, Have not gotten a chance to overclock it yet, but it does seem to run a few degrees warmer than my 3000 venice. In my setup I am getting 35-36C stock, where my 3000+ was running about 30-31C. I am using a Xp-90 in a Tsunami case in case anyone cares.

 

[agathodaimon]

Originally posted by: brockj
I got mine yesterday, Have not gotten a chance to overclock it yet, but it does seem to run a few degrees warmer than my 3000 venice. In my setup I am getting 35-36C stock, where my 3000+ was running about 30-31C. I am using a Xp-90 in a Tsunami case in case anyone cares.

hmm... My 3200 ran closer to 40-45C. The 4000 now runs around 35C idle with the stock AMD cooler.
I can almost immediately tell a difference in performance when I play Company of Heroes.