(Dead) Best Data 56K V.92 Internal PCI modem $9.99 @ Office Max (UPDATE: new drivers available)

music

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Best Data 56k v.92 Internal PCI modem for $9.99 at Office Max after $20 Instant Rebate.

Doesn't appear to be available to order online, but if you do a search for "Best Data" you'll see it listed as $9.99. link

My local Office Max was sold out, so I had to go to Fry's and have them price match the ad in the Sunday paper.

I've tried three previous modems with my computer, including the USR performance pro, and this one works the best.

EDIT:
link to ad (608k)
http://www28.brinkster.com/atdeals/officemax_ad.jpg
link to modem info <- new drivers posted 9/3/2002

UPDATE:
Carnivore99 has provided new information below, including the availability of new drivers.
 

knightc2

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Nice. No rebate is the key for this deal. I had a terrible time getting my rebate the last time I got a modem from Office Max. I think I will pick one of these up.

Thanks.
 

Braves

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arg my local one has it but it rings up as 29.99 with no rebates whatsoever and they wont match their online price. They didn't even have damn advertisements for their own store that i could look at. Anyone have a scan or something that I could show them or best buy because i don't think i recieved an ad in my newspaper for office max this week
 

Braves

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oh my god when u try to add it it says:
GenericTable data not found
Product 20148289 available in retail stores only. Visit our Store Locator.

so shoudln't their damn stores reflect this price
 

Buz2b

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oh my god when u try to add it it says:GenericTable data not found
Product 20148289 available in retail stores only. Visit our Store Locator
Yeah but the funny thing is that if you add either the ISA internal or the external model of the same modem, it adds to your cart correctly. Sounds like a sneaky bait and switch type of deal. Possibly a call to their customer service number might bring results for the online order.
 

Braves

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i called the office max in concord, california and the guy said it's actually a mail in rebate... which contradicts the first post. Any ideas?
 

ktg

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This item was briefly listed on the OMax website a few days ago, and at that time, it plainly stated that the cost was after an INSTANT, not mail-in, rebate. I found one of these modems at my local store yesterday, and it was still marked at the $29.99 price with no mention anywhere of any sort of rebate. Didn't even waste my time discussing with it the manager, sensed the deal just wasn't going to happen.
 

Synergy3618

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Please note that OfficeMax has been running different sales circulars in different regions for a while, and there is no sales circular for most stores in California for this week. You can do a search on k-squared's posts on this issue.
 

kdegarmo

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Bought 5 of 'em online a week ago with free shipping and $15/50 (they matched an OfficeDepot coupon) - the online price didn't mention any rebates, just a sale price of $9.99. Also, these are v.92 modems meaning they will work with XP without any firmware upgrade. Not a bad deal after the coupon and with the free shipping, net around $8 ea.


 

unclebud

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pretty sure they are (?). if they weren't, somebody would have cracced on the thread saying they could get winmod for free...
 

ktg

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are these hardware modems? anyone?

Nope. It's a CPU-cycle-sucking winmodem, like most bargain-price PCI internal modems out there. I believe they do make an external version, however, which is not a winmodem. However, it's not cheap like this one.
 

Praxis

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Nope. It's a CPU-cycle-sucking winmodem, like most bargain-price PCI internal modems
Right, it is very likely the 56FW-92, which is a software modem. I believe most winmodems eat about 50-60 MHz, so it isn't really that big a deal these days, when you can buy a 1 GHz CPU for about $40. I mean how much of your processor do you use when you surf the web? Right now with 5 browser windows, a newsreader downloading in the bagpipe music with my software modem, my mail client, a file manager, a bunch of background services (antivirus, firewall, etc.), playing an MP3 with AC.97 onboard sound, etc., I am using between 70 and 120 MHz. My Duron 1.2 GHz is not strained.

A bigger issue is that this modem is probably a HSP PCTel jobbie, which are generally excoriated as being the worst of the winmodems. Probably the best bet is a Lucent/Agere chipset winmodem, particularly if you want to run Linux. Second best is the Intel/Ambient chipset, so I understand, which claims to be "hardware assisted." Then comes the Conexant type, so I've heard. Pctel is the bottom of the barrel, but even for these there are now a LInux driver or two floating around.

Still, you can get V.92 Lucent, Ambient & Conexant modems for about $12 (see Pricewatch), so if you are looking for Linux support, I think there are better deals.
 

music

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I've added links to the ad and to the best data site at the top. Hope this helps.
 

acenuts

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Picked one of these up for free awhile ago along w/ an Actiontec and a PcTel. Winmodem and definitely not worth getting unless free which happens about every 3 months or near holidays($10-15 before rebate). I have yet to see a hardware modem dip below $20.
 

KenNashua

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This was posted last week on chubbywallet. It's a Conexant 11252-11 chipset.

I picked one up for $9.99 and have been happy with it, but only sent a couple of faxes thus far....
 

NICKel

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OK I am getting confused is this deal live right now and is it Online only or B&M too?
 

metapy

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I must add this:

I work for an ISP and I see the CRAPPY Connexant modem FAIL every day, usually several times a day. If you wonder why after several months you are lossing your connection, then look to Connexant/Rockwell/HCF/HSP modems. Seriously, I have seen very few problems with just about everything else out there, but when customers call in and say, "i'm getting disconnected" we check the reson for disconnect, turns up abnormal, and low and behold Connexant/Rockwell based 90+% of the time. So buyer beware and good luck with your disposable modem.

P.S. Not too bad if you concider one of these like a printer cartridge, something that works great at first, and then goes to crap at the end.

Sorry to thread crap, but I am tired of people buying these and then yell at the ISP for crappy service.
 

music

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Originally posted by: NICKel
OK I am getting confused is this deal live right now and is it Online only or B&M too?

Deal should be good from 8/4 - 8/10. I know it is good at the stores. Apparently it was available online at some point, but I don't think it is anymore.

This is a post by Modus in this thread about 56k modems. It's very informative.
There are a number of reasons to avoid higher priced "hard modems," especially those made by 3Com/USR, in favor of a common PCI winmodem.

1) Winmodems are dirt cheap.

While a good Lucent LT or Rockwell/Conexant HCF winmodem can easily be found for less than $10 US (see PriceWatch) the cheapest hardware modem costs nearly four times as much: $36 plus shipping and handling. And for a 3Com part, you'll pay even more. By contrast, you can sometimes find winmodems for $5 or even for free with special promotions.

Everything else we put in our computers is subject to a price/performance ratio. In other words, if the performance of a more expensive part does not scale linearly with its price, we don't buy it. (RDRAM, anyone?) The same reasoning must be applied to hardware modems. They certainly don't perform four times as well as winmodems of a quarter the price, and as we'll see, they often don't perform any better at all.

2) Ping times and throughput are not an issue.

Modern Winmodems such as those based on the Lucent LT chipset will display ping times below 100ms and connect speeds around 48000, which is more than adequate for any Internet activity, including online gaming. Any recent softmodem -- especially the HCF variety, where the hardware handles a bit more of the duty -- should exhibit similar performance. Below, a cut and paste job from a generic Lucent LT v.90 PCI, which sells for as low as $9 on PriceWatch:

C:\WINDOWS>ping -n 10 router.infoserve.net

Pinging router.infoserve.net [199.175.157.4] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=101ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253

Ping statistics for 199.175.157.4:
Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 90ms, Maximum = 105ms, Average = 98ms

You may object that pinging an ISP would always yield good results. Actually, it's the only fair way to compare latency between modems. Pinging your ISP reduces the number of variables down to three: your modem's performance, the quality of your phone lines, and the nature of your ISP's modem pool. If we were to compare modems by pinging a fixed point on the Internet, we would quickly introduce several more uncontrolled variables: Internet traffic, server load, number of hops, etc.

Even if you ping your own ISP with an expensive hardware modem, I think you'll find it extremely difficult to match these numbers.

Not bad for $9, eh?

3) CPU utilization is minimal.

One of the main arguments against winmodems has been that they consume CPU cycles. Fortunately, manufacturers have always made sure to set minimum CPU guidelines so that the effect is not noticeable. If CPU usage was ever a problem, it certainly isn't today.

CPU power has increased many, many times faster than the technology behind softmodems. For instance, the CPU usage of a typical winmodem hovers below 5% on a Celeron 333. This is in the range of the power required by Windows to spin an hourglass cursor; it's certainly not something that will eat into your game play significantly. Once again, we see the benifit of an HCF winmodem solution, where the onboard DSP relieves much of the stress on the CPU. And now we have people running around with 1 GHz processors. Any drop in frame rate will barely be measurable, let alone visible.

4) They are reliable.

In my consulting business, I've sold dozens of PC's equipped with the cheapest Winmodems I could find. Only one has ever come back with a genuine hardware defect.

Many ISP support techs have a grudge against winmodems because they feel these types of modems are responsible for an innordinate number of support calls. There are a couple of reasons for this. First, almost all new computers sold today use winmodems; a person with a new computer and a modem problem will likely be using a winmodem, simply because they are more prevalent. Second, winmodems actually require the drivers they ship with. A new PC user who can't tell the difference between his RAM and his hard drive space will feel his eyes glaze over when confronted with a manual telling him how to install softmodem drivers. Instinct tells him to phone his "Internet guys" and get them to help.

In truth, winmodems are no more apt to fail than hardware modems, and probably less so, because they have fewer electronic components.

5) Driver/OS support is excellent.

The Lucent LT, for example, supports Windows 2000, Windows 9x, Linux (see www.linmodems.org under the Vendor section), and even the obscure BeOS. Lucent also seems comitted to releasing a new driver every few months, which means your modem's performance will always be as high as possible.

6) Affordable broadband Internet technology puts any analogue modem to shame.

Anyone using the Internet for more than email and chat sees the need for widely available broadband Internet access to replace our antiquated 56k connections. Trying to enjoy streaming audio or video over a modem connection is like trying to sip a thick milkshake through a thin straw. With the availability and affordability of high speed Internet access growing at a steady rate, it would be foolish to invest more than the minimum amount in modem technology that is already obsolete.

So when you consider the facts, there are very few valid reasons to avoid winmodems.

Modus
 

Praxis

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Seems like maybe the Lucent LT modem is the way to go, especially given the minuscule price difference.

Also, now that I think of it, I've had problems with the Best Data winmodems before. I've seen a couple that made "modem noise" even after they had established connections. And I recall not being able to get them to work when the owner changed from Win9X to W2K. Of course, this was with an older version of the modem, but I recall that it only said Windows 95 and 98 on the box, even though there were NT and W2K drivers on the CD. They seemed to install, but I'd always get "resource busy" messages or even when I was able to query the modem, it simply wouldn't dial. Maybe I should have tried editing the AT commands, but that seems like a PITA. Has anyone had any problem getting these things to work in Win2000 or XP?

Now that I think of it, the only modems I've ever had go flat tits up after initially working were hardware modems, though. A USR 28.8 external and a cheapie ISA hardware modems.
 
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