(Dead) Dell 1800FP 18.1" only $384 Free Ship + Tax w/ NEW 5% Coupon & 10% Auto Discount

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Deskstar

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Mine arrived today; still not unpacked. But, it looks good while still in the packing materials at this price.
 

tigerbait

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ugh.... I have to wait till tomorrow to see my monitor because UPS is stupid. I was at work when they tried to deliver. I went to the customer counter and tried to pick it up. The lady told me to call the number and request pickup then come back between 8-9. I just went there and they said if someone from UPS didn't call me back after requesting pickup then I couldn't do the same day will call. No one called me and I wasted two trips going to the warehouse. On the other hand, I missed my package from Fedex today also (Crucial ram from cnetpc.com) However, I went over there at 6:30 and the guy said no problem, went in the back and returned with my package in less than 2 minutes, without me having to call to arrange a pickup. Much better service with Fedex. I'm not gonna be going brown any time soon. :|
 

Severe

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First off, give me a little credit here people. I did install the Dell driver. And, yes, when I set it to optimal, it goes straight for 85hz. Running it at 75hz has absolutely no effect on fixing the issue. Heck, I dropped it down to 60hz and it did nothing.

As for the 85hz, that's set up on the adapter settings and the menu on the monitor plainly reads 1024x768@85hz, Preset Mode DSUB Analog. See if any of you other guys are getting the same.

I'd just hate to have to send this back, but it's not worth my eyes.

For what it's worth, my 1800FP is rev. A00. Maybe they increased the max hz. to 85.

 

Ryan

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Arg@ I have to wait until tomorrow to get it because the UPS driver came to my house when I wasn't there! I'm so impatient - I can't wait!!!!!!!!! :|
 

mchammer187

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Originally posted by: Severe
First off, give me a little credit here people. I did install the Dell driver. And, yes, when I set it to optimal, it goes straight for 85hz. Running it at 75hz has absolutely no effect on fixing the issue. Heck, I dropped it down to 60hz and it did nothing.

As for the 85hz, that's set up on the adapter settings and the menu on the monitor plainly reads 1024x768@85hz, Preset Mode DSUB Analog. See if any of you other guys are getting the same.

I'd just hate to have to send this back, but it's not worth my eyes.

For what it's worth, my 1800FP is rev. A00. Maybe they increased the max hz. to 85.

you should be running 1280x1024 @60 hz anything else will be blurry
 

Severe

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Originally posted by: mchammer187 you should be running 1280x1024 @60 hz anything else will be blurry

Where in the world does that information come from? And if that's the case then this is definitely going back. That would be crazy to force someone to run such a high resolution in order to get clear text.
 

mchammer187

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Originally posted by: Severe
Originally posted by: mchammer187 you should be running 1280x1024 @60 hz anything else will be blurry

Where in the world does that information come from? And if that's the case then this is definitely going back. That would be crazy to force someone to run such a high resolution in order to get clear text.

that is the native res of this LCD

just try it you will love it unless you are blind

i am running at 1600x1200 on a 2000FP

LCD's unlike CRT's must be run at their native resolution for perfect clarity because there is a 1 to 1 mapping of pixels on the screen to pixels outputted
 

LukFilm

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Originally posted by: Severe
Originally posted by: mchammer187 you should be running 1280x1024 @60 hz anything else will be blurry

Where in the world does that information come from? And if that's the case then this is definitely going back. That would be crazy to force someone to run such a high resolution in order to get clear text.

LOL
 

mchammer187

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Originally posted by: Severe
Originally posted by: mchammer187 you should be running 1280x1024 @60 hz anything else will be blurry

Where in the world does that information come from? And if that's the case then this is definitely going back. That would be crazy to force someone to run such a high resolution in order to get clear text.

just TRY it before you ship it back
 

olouie

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Originally posted by: LukFilm
Originally posted by: Severe
Originally posted by: mchammer187 you should be running 1280x1024 @60 hz anything else will be blurry

Where in the world does that information come from? And if that's the case then this is definitely going back. That would be crazy to force someone to run such a high resolution in order to get clear text.

LOL

 

tigerbait

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Originally posted by: mchammer187
Originally posted by: Severe
Originally posted by: mchammer187 you should be running 1280x1024 @60 hz anything else will be blurry

Where in the world does that information come from? And if that's the case then this is definitely going back. That would be crazy to force someone to run such a high resolution in order to get clear text.

that is the native res of this LCD

just try it you will love it unless you are blind

i am running at 1600x1200 on a 2000FP

LCD's unlike CRT's must be run at their native resolution for perfect clarity because there is a 1 to 1 mapping of pixels on the screen to pixels outputted



what about the fact that 1280x1024 is not a 4:3 aspect ratio like 800x600, 1024x768, and 1600x1200. Does this cause image distortion?
 

Severe

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Well, ok, finally some information I can use. Thanks then for taking the time to explain that McHammer.

I did try it and I can see what you mean about the 1:1 pixel. Thing is, the text seems pretty small now. I guess I'll decide if this is comfortable for reading and such.

Thanks again.
 

Politik

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Originally posted by: Severe
Well, ok, finally some information I can use. Thanks then for taking the time to explain that McHammer.

I did try it and I can see what you mean about the 1:1 pixel. Thing is, the text seems pretty small now. I guess I'll decide if this is comfortable for reading and such.

Thanks again.

You can increase font size in the windows settings
 

mchammer187

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Originally posted by: tigerbait
Originally posted by: mchammer187
Originally posted by: Severe
Originally posted by: mchammer187 you should be running 1280x1024 @60 hz anything else will be blurry

Where in the world does that information come from? And if that's the case then this is definitely going back. That would be crazy to force someone to run such a high resolution in order to get clear text.

that is the native res of this LCD

just try it you will love it unless you are blind

i am running at 1600x1200 on a 2000FP

LCD's unlike CRT's must be run at their native resolution for perfect clarity because there is a 1 to 1 mapping of pixels on the screen to pixels outputted



what about the fact that 1280x1024 is not a 4:3 aspect ratio like 800x600, 1024x768, and 1600x1200. Does this cause image distortion?

i would imagine that the video card would take care of this because if you draw a large circle at 1280 by 1024 in photoshop and change the res to 1280x960 than the circle to be an oval but it is not

 
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Originally posted by: Severe
Originally posted by: mchammer187 you should be running 1280x1024 @60 hz anything else will be blurry

Where in the world does that information come from? And if that's the case then this is definitely going back. That would be crazy to force someone to run such a high resolution in order to get clear text.

noooooooooooooooooooooooobie all over your face. ALL TODAY's LCDs ALWAYS RUN CLEARER AT THEIR NATIVE RESOLUTION. Please excuse my caps lock for this particular post.

what about the fact that 1280x1024 is not a 4:3 aspect ratio like 800x600, 1024x768, and 1600x1200. Does this cause image distortion?

All recent games I own run @ 1280x1024. Actually, I've never seen a game made within several years that can't do this resolution... but then ... i don't play that many games...

My 1800fp doesn't look good 1280x1024 @75hz. It looks razor sharp with 1280x1024@60hz.
 

babutiger

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My 1800fp doesn't look good 1280x1024 @75hz. It looks razor sharp with 1280x1024@60hz.

With all due respect, I find that anything less than 72hz makes the text unbearably blurry with an analog hookup. Are you using DVI? That would explain things...



 

Jamestl

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Originally posted by: babutiger
My 1800fp doesn't look good 1280x1024 @75hz. It looks razor sharp with 1280x1024@60hz.

With all due respect, I find that anything less than 72hz makes the text unbearably blurry with an analog hookup. Are you using DVI? That would explain things...

My Samsung looks horrible at 70 but looks clear at 60. Will see later today if the new monitor is the same...
 

davet

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For best results, run the monitor at 1280x1024, DVI input, install the Dell driver from the cd, and run over to the Microsoft Cleartype tweak on their website. Cleartype fonts looked horrible at the default setting. Once you go to that website it will display sections of text for you to read, select the sections that look the best and it will adjust Cleartype. I'm not kidding, it made a big improvement on mine.

Now for the nitpicking. There is a small amount of ghosting - watch your mouse pointer turn into a blur when you move quickly over a dark background. The black level is not as good as I'd heard it would be, there is a noticeable difference between turning the monitor off and it displaying a black background color. The lower left corner is a little lighter than the rest of the screen. Maybe my expectations were too high.

Colors seem to be right on though, don't have any complaints there. And no dead pixels so far, knock on wood.

Bottom line though - the text quality and uniform geometry are far far better than any CRT I've ever had.
 

EvanGeliSt

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Originally posted by: John
Originally posted by: EvanGeliSt Ygpm resinboy... got an xtra here if anyone wants to get it. Wallet's hole is too big --> needs repair Btw, does anyone know if dell requires you to pay the shipping fees for returns? Thanks!
Within 30 days Dell will issue a (free for you) call tag. You only pay the initial non-refundable shipping charge, and in this case it was free. * This 1800FP looks even more amazing on my desk, and to my eyes, than it did yesterday.

Hey John,
Question about the "initial non-refundable shipping charge".... i actually called them up becoz' I was intending to return a couple of extra units i ordered and it seems like they say the shipping fees are only"refundable provided the goods are faulty in the first place".... what gives? So if i return it, I still have to pay shipping back??

--Thanks ...
 

mchammer187

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Originally posted by: babutiger
My 1800fp doesn't look good 1280x1024 @75hz. It looks razor sharp with 1280x1024@60hz.

With all due respect, I find that anything less than 72hz makes the text unbearably blurry with an analog hookup. Are you using DVI? That would explain things...

its an LCD not a CRT
 

coolred

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Whats the deal, i just got the March 2003 dell magazine thing, with 10% of desktop and notebook excessories. The interesting part is that they list this monitor at 25ms response time. Is that incorrect or is everyone else stating 30ms incorrect?
 

noxxic

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This is how it was explained to me... Hz settings in CRTs and LCDs, even with analog hookup, work differently. In CRTs, images are turned on-off rapidly and the Hz setting controls how fast that transition is. When the setting is low, our eyes notice the blank/off state more and so it's harder on our eyes. In LCDs, the display is constantly on, so Hz settings doesn't really affect it.
 
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