DEAD DELL 1800FP 18" LCD $426 Free Ship today from Home Division 1/23/03 only

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mjdeere

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Originally posted by: dshodson
what is the best way to test these things out for dead pixels etc
i have mine connected analog and it asks what refresh rate i want
is there any advantage of picking greater than 60 with these things since 60 is what it supposedly does

D

Found some info about LCD refresh rates at http://www.hitachidisplays.com/products/how_monitors_work/flatpanel.shtml

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You will also notice that, unlike CRTs, manufactuers of LCD monitors recommend using a lower refresh rate ; 60 or 70 Hz;
The reason for lower refresh rates in LCDs is because the liquid crystal molecules damper flicker and higher refresh rates are not as important.

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Also : http://home.houston.rr.com/djsmith7/refresh.htm

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Refresh Rate: Flat Panel (LCD) vs. CRT monitors

Expressed in Hertz (Hz), in interlaced mode this is the number of fields written to the screen every second. In non-interlaced mode it is the number of frames (complete pictures) written to the screen every second. Higher frequencies reduce flicker, because they light the pixels more frequently,reducing the dimming that causes flicker. Also called vertical frequency.

Same as vertical frequency, is measured in Hertz (Hz) and represents the number of frames displayed on the screen per second. Too few, and the eye will notice the intervals in between and perceive a flickering display. The world-wide accepted refresh rate for a flicker-free display is 70Hz and above, although standards bodies such as VESA are pushing for higher rates of 75Hz or 80Hz.

A CRT has three electron guns whose streams must converge faultlessly in order to create a sharp image. There are no convergence problems with an LCD panel, because each cell is switched on and off individually. This is one reason why text looks so crisp on an LCD monitor. There's no need to worry about refresh rates and flicker with an LCD panel - the LCD cells are either on or off, so an image displayed at a refresh rate as low as between 40-60Hz should not produce any more flicker than one at a 75Hz refresh rate.

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- Hope this helps! - MJ
 

PhantomZX

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Originally posted by: dshodson
what is the best way to test these things out for dead pixels etc
i have mine connected analog and it asks what refresh rate i want
is there any advantage of picking greater than 60 with these things since 60 is what it supposedly does

D

There's some good LCD testing utilities at the following URL:

http://www.monitorsdirect.com/toolkit

I have also heard (but don't know if it's true) that a higher refresh rate for the LCD will make it look sharper. Once again, I don't know if it's true so try it at your own risk!
 

ozziegn

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Originally posted by: alchemize
How much does UPS suck?

beyond belief and some.

however, I recieved my 1800FP today I absolutely love it. WAYYY better than the 18" Microtek-Wally World special. well worth the extra $50 between the two.

you can check out my thread here for some pics I took of the Dell.

but they don't really care, do they.

heck no.

they could care less.

but on a side note, I was REALLY surprised at how mine arrived in one piece and in a box that didnt look like it had fallen off a 747 from 20K feet in the air.

 

ozziegn

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Originally posted by: PhantomZX
Originally posted by: dshodson
what is the best way to test these things out for dead pixels etc
i have mine connected analog and it asks what refresh rate i want
is there any advantage of picking greater than 60 with these things since 60 is what it supposedly does

D

There's some good LCD testing utilities at the following URL:

http://www.monitorsdirect.com/toolkit

awesome tool to have for LCDs.

 

may

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Anyone know how I should pay Dell? I used the preferred account and just got my monitor. But the monitor did not come with any bill. Should I expect a bill from Dell by mail later?
 

alchemize

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Well after calling registering a rather lengthy complaint at my local UPS office, sure enough the driver was kind enough to wait the 30 seconds for my wife to answer the door today. How noble of him.

Can't wait to unpack this tonite

May: I would expect a bill within a week or so. Probably within days of receipt. They come separate.
 

ozziegn

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Originally posted by: may
Anyone know how I should pay Dell? I used the preferred account and just got my monitor. But the monitor did not come with any bill. Should I expect a bill from Dell by mail later?

heh, believe me, they have already charged your preferred account.

Dell doesnt include bills w/ their shipments. they only send packing invoices in the boxes.

the actual reciept (not a "you owe us X dollars" bill) will come in the mail in a little while.

Dell isnt gonna send ya a $500 monitor "hoping" that you'll pay the bill when it arrives. it just doesnt work that way.
 

SKORPI0

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Got mine delivered today via UPS. Hooked it up to my MSI GF3 Ti500 DVI-D plug and tested it. Didn't see any dead pixels. I'm impressed with the quality compared to my Dell D1626HT (21" CRT). I'll hook it up and run it as a dual monitor sytem & compared the images side by side.
 

may

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Finally hooked up my Dell and Envision 7100 LCD side by side. I hook up both with my ATI 9500, Dell on DVI port, and Envision on CRT port. Run a couple of games and they look beautifully on DELL, better than envision. However, I do notice that Dell is not as bright as envision.

 

mjdeere

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In Case anyone is interested, here is some info I fould on this LCD at

http://forums.us.dell.com/supportfo...itor&message.id=18325&highlight=1800FP#M18325

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The 1800fp monitor is made by LG Electronics (subsidiary of Philips?)

Basically a rebranded LG LB800H

http://www.lge.com/c_product/catalo...FL&mdl_cod=LB800H&mdl_mak=1&navigation=1,18,3

Here's a review of the 1800fp :
http://www.maximumoc.com/reviews/dell1800fp.html

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Clearly not a 'sony / trinitron' as claimed elsewhere...

Later - MJ


 

wombat44

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Got the Dell, very nice. Now I want a DVI card...

I don't do games, just 2D stuff, and have been quite happy with old Matrox cards (G400). So - can anyone recommend a cheap but adequate video card, with DVI?

Thanks!

-jim.
 

NasdaqTrader889

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Got mine today and I ran the LCD test on it. I had two dead sub-pixels, one blue in color and the other green, that I could see against the black background test screen. Is that common among LCD's or is this something I might have to keep an eye on? According to the test these two pixels are locked in the "on" position.
 

Tommy2000GT

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I got mine today and it's perfect, no dead pixels. This monitor is absolutely beautiful in CS. However, this monitor looks bad with cleartype enabled.
 

ozziegn

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Originally posted by: Johnnie
How does the Dell compare to the Planar CT1904Z??

if I'm not mistaken, the Planar has a 25ms response time w/ a 400:1 contrast ratio compared to the Dell's 30ms response time and a 350:1 contrast ratio.

also, isnt the 1904Z a 19" model?
 

Jgtdragon

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Hmmm on the catalog it says it 25ms response time. Oh well, didn't really see any ghosting when I played NBA Live 2003. Also, anyone use that cd driver for the monitor? I just use the plug and play driver from XP.
 

tnguyen88

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Got mine today... I love this sucker! It's so hot, that I almost want to hump it... hmmm maybe I should keep that to myself.
 

Jgtdragon

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Got mine today... I love this sucker! It's so hot, that I almost want to hump it... hmmm maybe I should keep that to myself.

Quit watching porn on that LCD. Wait there is a hole on the back, you can hump that.
 

Beavis1313

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I bought this monitor but am having a little trouble with it.

I play mostly first person shooters (BattleField 1942, UT2003, etc) and whenever I turn really fast the screen gets blurry. Is this a common problem with this monitor or do you think it could be my video card (Geforce3Ti500)?

If it wasn't for this minor problem the monitor is SWEET! Still think it was a great buy and if it doesn't work out for my gaming I can always give it to the wife and get on her good side again. hehe
 

tnguyen88

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Originally posted by: Beavis1313
I bought this monitor but am having a little trouble with it.

I play mostly first person shooters (BattleField 1942, UT2003, etc) and whenever I turn really fast the screen gets blurry. Is this a common problem with this monitor or do you think it could be my video card (Geforce3Ti500)?

If it wasn't for this minor problem the monitor is SWEET! Still think it was a great buy and if it doesn't work out for my gaming I can always give it to the wife and get on her good side again. hehe

I just tested mine out in Quake 3 Arena for the first time, and I don't really notice any ghosting. It could just be the fact that things are moving so fast that your eyes are playing tricks on you. Are you using DVI-out on your card?
 

Beavis1313

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I have tried both. It doesn't seem to matter. I hooked my old 19" CRT monitor back up to my machine and there is definately a noticable difference. My old monitor is clear as a bell when I turn but the new LCD monitor is blurry. If I am running straight ahead the picture is great (on the LCD). It is only when you go to make a fast turn (like when someone is shooting you from behind).

Maybe my brain is going faster than the monitor? LOL
 

mrEvil

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Heck, I'll try it out and let you know. Hooked mine up last night...only played Sum of All Fears....nothing earth shattering there as far as fast paced...will load up UT2003 and let you know my results....
 

jclose

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: codeyf
at first shows up as 15% off, but then after I do the "estimate shipping & tax" it fixes itself.

Sub-total $649.00
Discounts -$162.25
Shipping1 $49.00
Shipping
Discount1 -$49.00
Tax1 $0.00

Total Price1 $486.75


Nice deal, but I'm holding out for the 20 incher.

Don't forget the $35 coupon $451.75 shipped



Well, my monitor showed up at my doorstep yesterday. Thanks for the deal, guys! Mine is a bit better than what is listed here, so this is a bit of a crow, too.

I bought the monitor just before the sale ended (I think that the order time shown left me with 15 minutes before it ended). My price was the same as above:

Sub-total $649.00
Discounts -$162.25
Discounts -$35.00
Shipping1 $49.00
Shipping
Discount1 -$49.00
Tax1 $0.00

Total Price1 $451.75

I applied for, and received, the Dell Preferred Account (but not the spiffy 6 months same as cash, or whatever it was). I had hoped to capitalize on the extra $25 off that people had mentioned. But nothing showed up at the time I made the order. I didn't get any new codes or antyhing. I called them up on 1/30 to see if I could get a CSR to give me the $25 discount for using my Preferred Account. (I was a bit skeptical about getting the discount so many days after placing the order.) She was helpful, looked around, but couldn't find any deals or anything for me. She told me to call back if I got a coupon code or something.
Well, on 1/31 I received my Dell Preferred Account information in the mail; it has all the ugly details about the account, standard credit account kinds of things. Well, in one of the brochures about the account there was a coupon code for 10% off a purchase (software and peripherals). Bango! I called Dell back and gave them the new code I had. The CSR was nice and helpful again, took the code, and gave me 10% off my final price (-$45). Woohoo!! So my new final price was $406.75!! I am one happy camper. And I was only looking for the $25 off, too. Darn it, I love it when a plan comes together!!

I love the monitor, BTW. It is replacing my old 21" CRT. It isn't perfect, but it is a very nice monitor.

J
 
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