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aphex

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Originally posted by: vmrao
Damn you guys are really tempting me! I would like to replace my santa cruz, they are not good enough for my sennheiser hd580 headphones anymore...

If you love your music, you will LOVE this card
 

kauffmbe

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For those on the edge, here is my more specific take on this card after the earlier gushing. The analog outputs simply need to be heard to be believed. With my setup, 5 channel analog out (no subwoofer) to a mid-fi Yahama Reciever being used merely as a power amp out to 2 Full sized a/d/s mains and Polk center channel and bookshelf surrounds, the quality really is an order of magnitude better than what I got using my Philips Acoustic Edge analog outputs OR using the Reciever itself with standalone cd player. In fact, the analog outs are so good, they actually sound better than running S/PDIF digital out to the reciever and letting it do the decoding of audio. Plus by using the analog output, I have more versitility as I can use Circle Surround II for TV programs, divx movies with 2 channel soundtracks, or normal stereo music. While I do like the CSII effects for some music (its pretty much equivalent to Dolby Pro-Logic II, although soem reviewers often prefer the CSII over the dolby) the clarity and stereo seperation when just using 2 channel outputs is simply stunning. This is apparent even with crappy downloaded 128 bitrate mp3's although using a better source like my collection of alt-preset standard MP3s or the original CDs is much better. Contrary to what was said earlier, the quality is not worse in games. The problem in games is that the Sensaura 3d audio that is on the card in done in software, not hardware acceleration. Therefore this card will use more CPU for multichannel gaming than an Audigy for example which will cause some FPS loss. So if you are a hardcore gamer with a crappy video card and a slower CPU, this could be a problem. If you're already getting umteen million FPS in your favorite game, will losing 15 really matter? And the game WILL sound great. The only downside to this card is that the sound is so clear, if you have decent speakers you really will start to notice how shitty low bitrate badly encoded MP3s sound, as their sonic deficiencies are much more apparent.

BTW, for those who want a great price but without the hassle of dealing with rebates Digital Connection has lowered the price on this card to $79. Cliff at Digital connection is one of the people responsible for the design of this card working with m-audio. This is a very reputable store selling all sorts of goodies for Home theater and HTPCs. He can be found providing support for this card all the time in the Home Theater Computers section of the AV Science Forum
 

oddjob303

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Hehe I bought it for my klipsch 2.1s and omg sound is much clearer and defined when you compare it to the live value i have. Have yet to try it w/ my WinTV because the pos does not wanna work w/ my system after sending in the rebate. I havented tried it w/ my sennheiser 280 pro and have yet to play cs ill let you guys know tommorow.
 

swNYC

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Thanks for the $79 link kauffmbe! Time to put my AMEX gold BVG to good use! $44 after BVG baby
 

dew042

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the jump from my yamaha fortissimo I to santa cruz was jaw dropping.

this is just as good a jump. this card is so clear on my klipsch 4.1 setup its amazing.

dew.
 

Nebby

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dang you guys are tempting me with your reviews....i have the sb live with the logitech z560's, anyone have a similar setup and upgraded to this card?
 

oddjob303

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Originally posted by: Nebby
dang you guys are tempting me with your reviews....i have the sb live with the logitech z560's, anyone have a similar setup and upgraded to this card?

hehe buy it! buy it! buy it! You got one more day man. Unforntuantely cs seemed the same, was being pretty stupid and accidently left kazaa on and thought that it Revolution eatin away at my processor. And it did make me lose a couple frames(only a couple) which i needed and if you say otherwise shad up ^.^

freakin pos computer
 

CROSSeyed

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I Upgraded from Audigy and Z-560's to Revolution 7.1 and Z-680's. Card seems much better for music playback... "brighter" treble/highs... I have no regrets... personally I hope I never have to own another Creative product....
 

Thump553

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Quick question. I'm using a way out of date cd player program (CD Wizzard) that's nice but is no longer updated. I'll need to upgrade this to a new program because this card has no analog input, from what I understand. What programs use freedb.org info and permit digital input, excluding Windows Media Player?
 

lowenbotten

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I have an Audigy 2 Platinum. I play both games and music on my PC. Sometimes movies, but not that often. Is it worth it for me to check this out?
 

aphex

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If you already have an audigy 2 i wouldnt spend the money, you already have a great card. Only if you REALLY have to have the best sounding music, would i reccomend this upgrade. I would definately reccomend this to anything below the audigy 2 however, as it really does sound beautiful.
 

aphex

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Originally posted by: Thump553
Quick question. I'm using a way out of date cd player program (CD Wizzard) that's nice but is no longer updated. I'll need to upgrade this to a new program because this card has no analog input, from what I understand. What programs use freedb.org info and permit digital input, excluding Windows Media Player?

i might be mistaken, but i think winamp 2 can do that?
 

Maleficus

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Originally posted by: aphex
If you already have an audigy 2 i wouldnt spend the money, you already have a great card. Only if you REALLY have to have the best sounding music, would i reccomend this upgrade. I would definately reccomend this to anything below the audigy 2 however, as it really does sound beautiful.


I would do it simply to get away from creative and their shitty drivers
 

GetInMyFatBelly

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Haven't read through this entire thread, but for those of you interested in the VIA Envy24HT chip on this card (like me), you may want to also check out the Audiotrak Prodigy 7.1 sound card. Suggested retail price is $99 and has coax digital in and out as well as those audio connectors for hooking up your CD ROM drives (even the digital one). I think the site is www.audiotrak.net and they should be available soon in the U.S., are available in Europe now.

I'll start a seperate thread on this deal and see if anyone bites.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=40&threadid=1023824
 

MontyBurns

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Originally posted by: Maleficus
Originally posted by: aphex
If you already have an audigy 2 i wouldnt spend the money, you already have a great card. Only if you REALLY have to have the best sounding music, would i reccomend this upgrade. I would definately reccomend this to anything below the audigy 2 however, as it really does sound beautiful.


I would do it simply to get away from creative and their shitty drivers


The Audigy 2 drivers are rock solid. You obviously haven't used them.
 

GetInMyFatBelly

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OK, read through this whole thread and was surprised to find no mention of why this card sounds so good. It uses the VIA Envy24HT chip on it with true 24bit 192kHz. Same as the Terratec Aureon 7.1 Sky and Space and the Audiotrak Prodigy 192 (if you want optional MIDI) and 7.1 card I mentioned earlier. Read up on it here:
http://www.via.com.tw/en/multimedia/envy24ht.jsp


And a review at www.extremetech.com that includes the M-Audio Revolution 7.1

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,995610,00.asp
 

Jimmy

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Be advised, this would not be a great card for gamers. There is no hardware support for DirectSound or DirectSound 3D, as it uses the Envy24HT chip not the Envy24. This means that any game that uses DirectSound via EAX, A3D, etc will cause your CPU to generate all of the sound sources via software, as the sound card cannot. This will tend to drag your performance down and cause lags.

Jim R.
 

aphex

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Originally posted by: Jimmy
Be advised, this would not be a great card for gamers. There is no hardware support for DirectSound or DirectSound 3D, as it uses the Envy24HT chip not the Envy24. This means that any game that uses DirectSound via EAX, A3D, etc will cause your CPU to generate all of the sound sources via software, as the sound card cannot. This will tend to drag your performance down and cause lags.

Jim R.

If your on a slow system you might notice the difference, but i honestly cant really see the difference in 86 to 82fps in Unreal
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: aphex
Originally posted by: Jimmy
Be advised, this would not be a great card for gamers. There is no hardware support for DirectSound or DirectSound 3D, as it uses the Envy24HT chip not the Envy24. This means that any game that uses DirectSound via EAX, A3D, etc will cause your CPU to generate all of the sound sources via software, as the sound card cannot. This will tend to drag your performance down and cause lags.

Jim R.

If your on a slow system you might notice the difference, but i honestly cant really see the difference in 86 to 82fps in Unreal

Ditto that. I've got a 2.4GHz P4 @ 2.75GHz and it doesn't complain one bit
 

yellowperil

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Got the Revo today. Sounds great, no hiss when I turn my monitors all the way up. The problem I encountered was the placement of the line-in and line-out jacks - normally they're not next to each other but they are on the Revo, and I couldn't plug my speakers and a 1/4" Y-splitter in together. Not a big deal but still unexpected from M-Audio. For the price I can't complain though.
 

aphex

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Originally posted by: yellowperil
Got the Revo today. Sounds great, no hiss when I turn my monitors all the way up. The problem I encountered was the placement of the line-in and line-out jacks - normally they're not next to each other but they are on the Revo, and I couldn't plug my speakers and a 1/4" Y-splitter in together. Not a big deal but still unexpected from M-Audio. For the price I can't complain though.

Radioshack sells a Y-splitter that isnt directly split at the base, it plugs in like a normal cord and has about 2 inches of wire until it splits with 2 heads... Lemme see if I can find it....
 
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