DEAD - Radeon 9800NPs back @ NewEgg - $243!

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: DoobieOnline
Sweet! Thanks nero2!

Edit: Evidently they received a large shipment because when I put "99" in for quantity, it went through.

You bought that much?! Either you are really rich or run a store.

 

[nero2]

No, he did it to find out how many cards they have in stock. He didn't buy that many, he just added that to his cart to check out what kind of invertory Newegg had.

 

[etech]

rickon66

Did the description of the product you bought say ATI as the first word or Sapphire? Which color pcb did you get, red or black?

PorBleemo

Putting a large quantity into your shopping cart at newegg is a way of finding out how many they have in stock. ie. if you put 99 into your cart and only 50 show up in your cart than they only have 50 in stock. I also checked and they had over 99 in stock. I wish I had tried a higher number to see just how many of these they had.

Lanyap
May I suggest: OldAndGrouchy
No, you may not. Just drop it son.

'BTW, I'm not little, I'm not a punk and I've been playing with computers, big and small, since the early 80's. '

I've been working with computers since the early 80's.

The black pcb is inferior to the red pcb.



Board analysis

"Physically, the RADEON 9800 looks virtually identical to the RADEON 9800 PRO. As you can see in the images, the red PCB ATI cards have become known for is present. In fact, the RADEON 9800 also borrows the RADEON 9800 PRO?s heatsink/fan unit. This heatsink has longer fins in comparison to the 9700 PRO?s heatsink for increased surface area. The fins are also more numerous than they were on the 9700 PRO?s cooler. This helps the core operate at higher clock speeds than the 9700 PRO without overheating.

To help keep the temperature of the board itself in check, ATI integrates heatsinks on the voltage regulator modules. If you recall the RADEON 9700 PRO board design, ATI relied on a metal plate to accomplish this task. Even at stock clock speeds, the plate would get incredibly hot to the touch, causing the entire board to get hot. As a result, adequate case ventilation was a necessity. The heatsinks employed on the RADEON 9800 are a much better solution, even after extended operation they barely get warm. When combined with the improved cooler on the graphics core, this combination does a much more effective job of combating heat, despite the higher clock speed of the board?s components.

A conventional Molex power connector keeps the card fed with juice. The RADEON 9500 and 9700 families utilized a floppy power connector for this purpose. The floppy connector was more prone to being damaged, so this is definitely another good move by ATI.
..."

 

[fustercluck]

Newegg said i can only exchange my 9800 for the same exact one, or one of a higher price...so i'm still kind of screwed there. Next thing up i'd go for would be the Powercolor, since i want something more guaranteed. Doesn't seem like it'd be worth the $70+ though =/. Damn, and i thought Newegg was supposed to be hassle free.

 

[Scopolamine]

i got the etrontech ram too. Hopefully I can get a refund. Especially since I was so pissed from getting an etrontech that I bought a 9800np w/ Samsung RAM on ebay for the exact same price.

 

[SuperShaz]

I'm not sure why so many people have a big problem with this, but then I remember this *is* an anandtech.com messageboard so most of you are enthusiasts that want to be able to get the best of the best and push your cards to the limits.

Am I the only one that purchased this thinking it was a good deal on a 9800np? I might play around with ocing a bit, but I always know that it is never guaranteed. Nor did I think that the bios upgrade to Pro was gauranteed. I am happy with the price I got on a 9800 non-pro.

In no way do I feel that I have the right to claim that NewEgg tricked me. I'm getting exactly what I paid for.

- Shaz

 

[Scopolamine]

Originally posted by: SuperShaz
I'm not sure why so many people have a big problem with this, but then I remember this *is* an anandtech.com messageboard so most of you are enthusiasts that want to be able to get the best of the best and push your cards to the limits.

Am I the only one that purchased this thinking it was a good deal on a 9800np? I might play around with ocing a bit, but I always know that it is never guaranteed. Nor did I think that the bios upgrade to Pro was gauranteed. I am happy with the price I got on a 9800 non-pro.

In no way do I feel that I have the right to claim that NewEgg tricked me. I'm getting exactly what I paid for.

- Shaz

I don't think that Newegg tricked me or anything. I just think they received a different batch from Saphire and thus sold us that batch. It's hardly their fault. The fault is Saphire's.

But I really appreciate Newegg's understanding of this situation. I just called them and they gave me a full refund after I told them exactly what happened.

I'm definitely a customer for life!

 

[acemcmac]

These cards do rock the sh!t

Good luck to all. It's a shame you missed the 9800np and p4 2.8c from dell for $120. $250 for just the card is a good deal too tho...

 

[Scopolamine]

interesting. I just checked the newegg website and the 9800 NP is not even listed anymore

 

[nero2]

Thats what Newegg did last time the 9800NPs went out of stock, a couple days later they removed the link entirely.

 

[GetSome681]

Many of you who got the etron tech ram need to stop complaining. Received mine today, and it runs perfect @ 400/360. Haven't tried higher, but I will later on when I have time.

Seriously, give it a try before you go crying/yelling back to newegg.

 

[JCase]

400/360! Nice! Did you use any additional cooling? Also, what bios/drivers are you on?

 

[Yangsing]

Got my Sapphire in today.

Did a quick little OC, and am able to run it at pro speeds (380/340). I'll try later to OC it some more and have some benchmarks. At first I thought I got had, but this card is turning out to be great. Upgraded from a Geforce 2 GTS to 9800, so anything would be great in my eyes.

Anyways, I'll post some benchmarks later.

 

[GetSome681]

Originally posted by: JCase
400/360! Nice! Did you use any additional cooling? Also, what bios/drivers are you on?

No additional cooling, although I do have excellent cooling overall in my case. I will probably rip this heatsink off since it blows, and put a zalman cooler or something on instead.

I am using the omega drivers for winxp based on the cat 3.7s.

 

[nero2]

I whole-heartedly reccomend the Zalman coolers, just be sure that any ramsinks you add are low-profile enough to fit underneath the cooler on the backside of the card. When I had a Zalman ZM80C (w/ custom fan blowing across it) on my 9800NP, I got an additional 15Mhz on the core. Not much but it helps

 

[fustercluck]

Just for the record, Newegg gave me a full refund, and did a helluva lot more as well. Newegg is the best company in the world, that's all i'll say

 

[Jondbold]

Does New Egg charge a restocking fee if you haven't opened an item yet?? I bought some DDR 400 Pro 1 gig Xms and want to return it not sure if they charge a restocking fee on unopened stuff.. it was $379 which is $56 or so restocking fee.

 

[Jondbold]

Espically since I didn't notice I orderd the wrong ram till I opened the box from ups =\

 

[Jondbold]

anybody ?

 

[Metron]

I got my card from FedEx today (it sat in the FedEx regional sorting center for 3 days... bah). I'll let you know what kind of numbers I get tomorrow. I'm not sending mine back!

Metron

 

[Yangsing]

This is what I'm gettin with my sapphire w/ Entron Tech memory

2700+, 512mb Samsung 2700 (5,2,2,2)

Sapphire @ 325/290
3dmark 2001: 14016
3dmark 2003: 4654

Sapphire @ 390/345
3dmark 2001: 15682
3dmark 2003: 5482

390/350 is when I start getting artifacts, but I'm pleased with the results considering I used to get 4k in 3dmark2001 with my old Geforce 2 . Anyways, I'm wondering if it's even worth it to try to flash the bios? I don't plan on spending anymore money for extra cooloing on the card.

Anyone have experiences flashing this Sapphire card, or have any links to posts about it?

Thanks

 

[Trianon]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: flashbacck

Originally posted by: etech
I ordered an ATI Sapphire card 9800np. That is not what they sent.

Yes, the disclaimer says newer versions may ship, not a different version.

Look at these two differnt cards and tell what, besides the price is different.

ATI SAPPHIRE RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB DVI/TV 8X AGP RETAIL

SAPPHIRE OEM RADEON 9800 PRO 128MB DVI/TV 8X AGP Video Card

Now please get over it, they are different cards.


I'll see on Tuesday what sort of store Newegg is based on how they handle this mistake of theirs.

one is OEM and one isn't? And stop being such a dick.

At least I'm not a blind idiot that can't see the difference in the cards and what Newegg shipped is not what was ordered. Now stop being an idiot yourself and stay out of this thread if you didn't buy one jackass.

etech, you are way off base, you ordered Sapphire ATI Radeon 9800NP bulk (OEM) for 243$ as far as I understand, and that's what you got. They key word here is Sapphire ( the manufacturer), ATI is there only because it uses ATI Radeon chip. You ordered Sapphire, you got Sapphire, end of story.

 

[Yangsing]

I think I'm gonna ask Newegg for a free refund and a discount going towards another video card purchase like other people are getting. Hopefully they'll comply

 

[Aknosis]

Fedex shipped my card to the wrong house, I don't think I'll get a chance to test it, I ordered 2nd day delivery here it is a week later and I have nothing...

 

[Cleaner]

Now that suxs. Good luck fighting it out with FedEx/New Egg!