DEAD! Samsung 712N 17" LCD for $334 AR shipped at CircuitCity.com

[SykoFreak]

http://www.circuitcity.com/detail.jsp?c=1&b=g&u=c&catoid=-8027&qp=0&oid=94372
$414 - $50MIR - $30MIR = $334 with free standard shipping

Specs:
Size 17"
Pixel Pitch (mm) 0.264
Brightness 300 cd/m2
Contrast Ratio 600:1
Viewing Angle (H/V) 160/140
Response Time (ms) 12
Aspect Ratio 4:3
Interface Analog

The website states that the $413.99 price is online only.

Edit: The original price is now $460.

 

[cw42]

/me is drooling wishing i had money to buy this

 

[edplayer]

Is it on sale all week? One rebate says you must purchase by Aug 14th

 

[peacemaker1ps]

Damn taxes.

 

[YoYoBabyYo]

is it even possible to purchase online, find a lower price elsewhere, and PM it at the store?

 

[jm0ris0n]

Are dead pixels something to still worry about ?

And would it be overkill to take the display out of the box at the store, try it out and check for dead pixels before I buy it (Would they allow this? I'd bring my laptop)

 

[sillymofo]

Yeah... but not very good IMO:

Brightness 300 cd/m2
Contrast Ratio 600:1
Response Time (ms) 12

Killed it.... but I guess if it's not for gaming, then it's alright.

 

[Squalish2357]

Just plain warm for a high response time screen, but pretty damn hot considering it's 12ms.

Picked one up today in-store. It rings up without the $46 instant rebate, and that's how its written on the card(IIRC, store price is $459.99 - $80 mail in rebates = $379.99, but I may be off by $10 or so), but when I showed the cashier the printout from the site, he changed it. I've been paranoid about dead pixels for a long time, and that's why I've never bought an LCD, but a relative wanted one regardless.

In short, the people there were friendly, but wouldn't let me open'er up and check for dead pixels.

Made sure to check their return policy before buying because of this, and it's 2 weeks return w/ full refund if unopened, 50% restocking fee if opened. However, they will exchange it regardless for the same or upgraded product(whatever that means) if there's a defect, and 1 dead pixel is defect enough. I have 1 bright red stuck "on" pixel right in the center of the screen, and it bugs the hell out of the perfectionist in me, so even though the relative says that it wouldn't bother her, I'm exchanging tomorrow.

 

[sillymofo]

Originally posted by: Squalish2357
Just plain warm for a high response time screen, but pretty damn hot considering it's 12ms.

Ehhhh...... 12ms is not hot, btw.

 

[mather]

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo

Originally posted by: Squalish2357
Just plain warm for a high response time screen, but pretty damn hot considering it's 12ms.

Ehhhh...... 12ms is not hot, btw.

What's hot then? What is currently lower?

 

[chaonatic]

Originally posted by: mather

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo

Originally posted by: Squalish2357
Just plain warm for a high response time screen, but pretty damn hot considering it's 12ms.

Ehhhh...... 12ms is not hot, btw.

What's hot then? What is currently lower?

No shi*, I have yet to see much better than 12ms! I only wish my Samsung 213T had 12ms. The 25ms that I do have is bearable, 12ms would be sweet. Wish I could afford this right now, but I think I'm gonna get in on that $350 Compaq deal...

 

[Krutoy]

Originally posted by: Squalish2357
Just plain warm for a high response time screen, but pretty damn hot considering it's 12ms.

Picked one up today in-store. It rings up without the $46 instant rebate, and that's how its written on the card(IIRC, store price is $459.99 - $80 mail in rebates = $379.99, but I may be off by $10 or so), but when I showed the cashier the printout from the site, he changed it. I've been paranoid about dead pixels for a long time, and that's why I've never bought an LCD, but a relative wanted one regardless.

In short, the people there were friendly, but wouldn't let me open'er up and check for dead pixels.

Made sure to check their return policy before buying because of this, and it's 2 weeks return w/ full refund if unopened, 50% restocking fee if opened. However, they will exchange it regardless for the same or upgraded product(whatever that means) if there's a defect, and 1 dead pixel is defect enough. I have 1 bright red stuck "on" pixel right in the center of the screen, and it bugs the hell out of the perfectionist in me, so even though the relative says that it wouldn't bother her, I'm exchanging tomorrow.

What kind of nazi policy is it for a 50% restocking fee? Thats just plain redicilous, I wouldn't buy it from them just for that reason.

 

[Squalish2357]

Sorry, seems I misheard the guy. I researched it a little, and it's 15%, not 50%. Considering they advertise a "no questions asked" return policy rather visibly, it still pisses me off a little bit. Though I read sites that say that the 'no questions asked' thing is a new push by CC corporate, and included removing the restocking fee, I was still told that it exists by the cashier.

 

[sillymofo]

Oh yeah... and I'm a big fat IDIOT, don't know what I was thinking when I said 12ms is not good.

 

[Squalish2357]

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
Oh yeah... and I'm a big fat IDIOT, don't know what I was thinking when I said 12ms is not good.

Was wondering...

This appears to be their top of the line 17" analog, though I can't figure out the difference between it and the 710N.

BTW, tracked down their return policy:

If you?re not completely satisfied with a product, Circuit City will gladly exchange or refund the purchase within 30 days of the sale date, except as noted below.

Digital cameras, camcorders, desktop PCs, notebook PCs, monitors, printers, scanners and radar detectors must be returned within 14 days of the sale date and (except where prohibited by law) are subject to a 15% restocking fee if returned opened or in a box other than the factory-sealed box.

There is no restocking fee for defective product returned in exchange for the exact same product, or for product originally purchased as Open Box.

Seems like pretty big chunk of CC's business to not apply the "no questions asked" / no restocking fee policy they implemented a little under 2 years ago, and have been advertising recently.

 

[estew33]

Originally posted by: Squalish2357
Just plain warm for a high response time screen, but pretty damn hot considering it's 12ms.

Picked one up today in-store. It rings up without the $46 instant rebate, and that's how its written on the card(IIRC, store price is $459.99 - $80 mail in rebates = $379.99, but I may be off by $10 or so), but when I showed the cashier the printout from the site, he changed it. I've been paranoid about dead pixels for a long time, and that's why I've never bought an LCD, but a relative wanted one regardless.

In short, the people there were friendly, but wouldn't let me open'er up and check for dead pixels.

Made sure to check their return policy before buying because of this, and it's 2 weeks return w/ full refund if unopened, 50% restocking fee if opened. However, they will exchange it regardless for the same or upgraded product(whatever that means) if there's a defect, and 1 dead pixel is defect enough. I have 1 bright red stuck "on" pixel right in the center of the screen, and it bugs the hell out of the perfectionist in me, so even though the relative says that it wouldn't bother her, I'm exchanging tomorrow.

keep us updated

 

[peacemaker1ps]

Originally posted by: Squalish2357

This appears to be their top of the line 17" analog, though I can't figure out the difference between it and the 710N.

Yea, What's the difference between 710n and 712n?
Anybody?

 

[weepul]

Originally posted by: peacemaker1ps

Originally posted by: Squalish2357

This appears to be their top of the line 17" analog, though I can't figure out the difference between it and the 710N.

Yea, What's the difference between 710n and 712n?
Anybody?

from amazon.com:

170N:
# 1,280 x 1,024 native resolution, 0.264 mm dot pitch
# 450:1 contrast ratio, 270 nits of brightness
# 150-degree horizontal viewing angle
# Supports optional wall mounting
# Compatible with PC, Mac, and Sun Microsystems; 3-year warranty

172N:
# 1,280 x 1,024 resolution, 0.264 mm dot pitch
# Rich 600:1 contrast ratio, 300-nit brightness
# 170-degree extra wide viewing angles
# Simple setup, standard analog RGB input
# PC compatible; 3-year warranty

//krunk (^_^x)

 

[SykoFreak]

710N: http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/nabc/product/b2c_product_detail.jsp?prod_id=MJ17ASSB
712N: http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/nabc/product/b2c_product_detail.jsp?prod_id=MJ17ASSBY

According to the Samsung site, the contrast ratio and brightness are the same.

Also, I don't know if the above post was a typo, but the 170 models and the 710 models are two different models.

 

[jm0ris0n]

Isn't a 600:1 contrast ratio really good...?

 

[jm0ris0n]

Here is a review of the 172X http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=635 . It earned a 9/10 and that is with a msrp of $600 and a street price of $549.

This is almost half that after MIR !

 

[dripgoss]

Ehhhh...... 12ms is not hot, btw.

Heh..

I wish they had 16:9 LCD's in 12ms or even 16ms...

 

[cHeeZeFacTory]

No DVI, but otherwise a good deal

 

[ActuaryTm]

Originally posted by: dripgoss

Ehhhh...... 12ms is not hot, btw.

Uhh, ever used an LCD before? 12ms = No Ghosting...

Hell 16ms is still looks pretty damn good...

Expecting a learned response from a user self-monikered cr4zymofo is perhaps a bit much.

 

[music]

Originally posted by: jm0ris0n
Here is a review of the 172X http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=635 . It earned a 9/10 and that is with a msrp of $600 and a street price of $549.

This is almost half that after MIR !

The 172X is a much better monitor.