DEAD(Sorry for the delay) $0.99 Case fans @ newegg!!

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simms

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I believe they're sold out. Anyone want to sell me some? I'll take them off your hands...

--Simon
 

ss284

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Can someone possibly post a pic of what the fans look like? The ones newegg shows dont seem like the ones described.


Thanks,
Steve
 

FPSguy

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Originally posted by: ss284
Can someone possibly post a pic of what the fans look like? The ones newegg shows dont seem like the ones described. Thanks, Steve
I can't post a pic from my current location, but it looks a lot like the picture at newegg except: (1) the 4 pin connected has the male and female sides inline, instead of folding next to each other, and (2) the fan wires are sleeved rather than loose. Those are the only differences I noticed from the picture at newegg.
 

WhineBaby

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Deal appears dead. I intended to order several days ago, forgot, then when I remembered last night and went to submit, I found the price is still $0.99 per fan (in lots of 10), but shipping is now $1.00 apiece.
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: jjyiz28
ok here is the lifetime of different bearings, from the most longer lasting, to the least longer lasting

ball>rifle>sleeve

heres from the most quietest from the leasst quietest

rifle>sleeve>ball

small chance i may be slightly wrong in this ordering, but overal rifle are the best, then ball, then sleeve.

for 10 bucks for 10 fans, its a deal. just replace em with your other 9 fans when it dies.

It's not that sleeve-bearing fans die earlier that's the biggest issue. It's that, 3-6 months later or slightly longer into their lifespan, they start to make *horrible* noises, usually. Uneven whines, ugh. Ball-bearing fans may be slightly louder in the beginning, but they stay that way throughout their entire lifetime. I actually have to agree with Sgt. Zulu on this one. I've sworn off sleeve-bearing fans forever, I only use BB fans. I'm tired of listening to/replacing partially worn (but still working fine) sleeve-bearing fans, just to save my ears and sanity. When I set up a new system, if the included PSU includes a sleeve-bearing fan, the first thing that I do is replace it with a BB fan, even before powering it up. Sleeve bearing fans are evil, especially in high-temp applications like PSUs.

Maybe these would be good, for replacing dead fans or building cheap crappy systems for clients. (Heck, the price is definately right!) But I would never, ever, use these in a personal system. Spend the extra $2/fan for a decent BB fan instead, and avoid worrying about them getting noisy or failing, for like 5-10 years. (I still have a pair of BB exhaust fans running beautifully in my full-tower server case, no more noise than when I first installed them, and I've had that case at least 6-7 years, probably longer. I do clean the dust out every couple of years or sooner though. Good maintenance is essential, no matter what type of fan you have.)

PS. I've never heard of "rifle" bearings, I'll have to look those up. Also curious why you didn't mention fluid bearings in your comparison, above.
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: Replay
RPM monitoring fans according to one of the posted reviews.

I'm in. 10 fans for 10 bucks shipped. Too loud? I'll try them at 7v and 5v. Sweet. Thanks.

That makes it a little hotter. A friend of mine just got some new Thermaltake all-singing all-dancing case, with fan-speed controls on the front, etc, and like 7 fan bays in the system. I was slightly disappointed to find out that the default orange-colored Thermaltake fans that they include in such an expensive case, are actually sleeve-bearing fans.

A set of 10 of these would make pretty cheap back-up fans though, if you didn't mind that they don't match the orange color of the original Thermaltake-brand case fans.
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
sleeve > ball

Ball bearings are noisy as hell... I'd take a sleeve bearing anyday.

Maybe side-by-side, when newly-installed... but wait 3-6 months, for the scraping, grinding, warbling, unevenly-worn-sleeve-bearing noises to appear. Then tell us that sleeves are quieter, overall.

Edit: Comparing the specs for the fan in question at Newegg, to This BB fan on Speeze's web site, the BB fan is actually quieter than the sleeve-bearing fan, out of the box.

Newegg sleeve:
Model: Speeze 80mm DC Case fan, Model FD08025S1M4
Bearing Type: Sleeve
Nominal Speed(RPM): 2500+/-10%
Max Air FlowCFM): 31.73
Rated Voltage: 12V DC
Noise(dBA): 28.0

Speeze BB:
Model: 80mm FD08025B1L3/4 Case Blower
Bearing Ball bearing
Rated speed 2500 RPM +/- 10%
Noise level 25 dBA
Air flow 37.80 CFM at 2,500 RPM
Life Hours Ball bearing: 50.000
Connector 3 & 4 Pin, mainboard & Power supply

According to these specs (if they are accurate), then the BB fan is actually quieter, and still moves *more* air than the sleeve. This should make those that think that sleeve is automatically quieter than BB think again, especially considering the value/longevity proposition of BB fans.

Edit 2: I found the specs on Speeze's site for the same sleeve-bearing fan that Newegg sells here. The noise/CFM specs are identical to the BB specs, which sounds slightly odd to me. (I sense a cut+paste.) The lifetime specs of the BB are nearly twice that of the sleeve-bearing though, and certainly the BB specs are no worse, noise-wise, than the sleeve.
 

SerpientE

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1$ shipping doesn't kill the deal but I shoulda bought more when it was free.

as for the above rants. Use these at 5 or 7v. Quiet, less wear = longer life.
 

mindless1

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According to these specs (if they are accurate),
Therein lies the key...
It's not reasonable to trust relabler spec nor assume a generic fan has far superior specs to quality fans. Let's compare the Speeze BB to a Panaflo hydrowave (sleeve):

Speeze BB:
Model: 80mm FD08025B1L3/4 Case Blower
Bearing Ball bearing
Rated speed 2500 RPM +/- 10%
Noise level 25 dBA
Air flow 37.80 CFM at 2,500 RPM
Life Hours Ball bearing: 50.000

Panaflo HW:
Model: 80mm FBA08A12M1A
Bearing Hydrowave (sleeve)
Rated speed 2450 RPM
Noise level 28dBA
Air flow 32.1 CFM
Life hours ??? Estimate 75-100K+ (me <- too lazy to find spec per RPM)

So according to Speeze's questionable spec, they're beating a fan known to be quieter than most anything but a similar speed sleeve-bearing Papst.
 

dc

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sleeve... make sure you only use these as case fans and not on the cpu heatsink unless you want a fried chip.

i've had several psu's with sleeve bearing fans blow up on me when the fan dies and they overheat.
 

ss284

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How are you guys modding these easily to 7v or 5v? They are a tad noisy sounding to me, im sure 7V would be perfect; how are you getting around the sleeving?

Thanks,
Steve
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: dc
sleeve... make sure you only use these as case fans and not on the cpu heatsink unless you want a fried chip.

i've had several psu's with sleeve bearing fans blow up on me when the fan dies and they overheat.

Me too... why do you think the first thing I do with PSUs with sleeve-bearing fans is to replace them with BB fans?
 

SerpientE

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chop up the adapter a bit so fan red goes to pc yellow and fan black goes to pc red. 12v - (+5) = +7v

for 5v run red to black ie +5v to ground.

Good luck.

ps. These are helluva loud at 12v indeed!
 

Replay

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Originally posted by: ss284
How are you guys modding these easily to 7v or 5v? They are a tad noisy sounding to me, im sure 7V would be perfect; how are you getting around the sleeving? Thanks, Steve

One method: Don't used the 3 pin plug (especially if you have modified and connected the 4 pin plug). Move the pins around in the 4 plug socket (yellow 12v -&amp;- red 5v=7v, red 5v -&amp;- black Gnd=5v). You only have to move one lead to another position for a 5v or 7v conversion. Forget about RPM monitoring after you drop the voltage, it just won't work.

A pin extraction tool helps (thin tube), otherwise push in the pin flanges holding the pins in place and back the pins out of the socket. Try 7 volts for a decent amount of air. I bend the wires back and run them up inside and through the female side of the pin (bending the pin open &amp; then closing them again) so they fit neatly into any of the 4 holes (two of the holes don't need the wire folded back, the molex connector has a flap which just snaps open).
 

dryKill

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One method: Don't used the 3 pin plug (especially if you have modified and connected the 4 pin plug). Move the pins around in the 4 plug socket (yellow 12v -&amp;- red 5v=7v, red 5v -&amp;- black Gnd=5v). You only have to move one lead to another position for a 5v or 7v conversion. Forget about RPM monitoring after you drop the voltage, it just won't work.

A pin extraction tool helps (thin tube), otherwise push in the pin flanges holding the pins in place and back the pins out of the socket. Try 7 volts for a decent amount of air. I bend the wires back and run them up inside and through the female side of the pin (bending the pin open &amp; then closing them again) so they fit neatly into any of the 4 holes (two of the holes don't need the wire folded back, the molex connector has a flap which just snaps open).

Yea, but using this method you can't use both sides of the connector. You won't be able to daisy chain the power connectors. I'm using a dremil to cut a slit along the top of the connector so the wire won't be blocking.
 
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