Dead Space 3 - Feb 5

[Madia]

Dead Space 3 is coming out in a little under 3 weeks and I didn't find a thread for it so I thought I'd start one. I really enjoyed the first two and just started playing through them again. I'm currently playing the first and it still holds up well although it's age is starting to show in the graphics (particuraly the textures). It's still one of the very few survival horror games to come out after most of the "horror" game are now more or less action games (RE5, etc.) The sequel does follow that pattern of more action less horror although it works within the narrative since Isaac (the protaganist of the first game) begins the game in a mental intitution and is suffering from the events of the first game. I'm looking forward to playing the second again since I thought it was one of the best games of 2011 (I ranked it third behind Skyrim and the Witcher 2) but I never got around to playing it again.

I haven't read too much about Dead Space 3 since I like to go into games I'm looking forward more or less blind. The main qualms I've heard about it are that the co-op mode take away from the horror aspect of the game and the game's setting seems a lot like lost planet (which I never played). So basically the fear is that it's turned from survival horror into pure action. From what I remember you can play the game solo as Isaac (which I plan to do) so you don't have another character backing you up all time ala RE5.

I don't mind the game phasing out some of the horror aspects in favor as action as long as there's an intensity to it. In RE5 I never really felt the action to be that intense or my character to be overwhelmed since my partner was always right there to help. Still, I like survival horror and don't want all of the games in the genre to morph into action games so I hope that the game is part action, part survival horror. For example, a chapter may start out outdoors as mostly action but once you get into a derelict building the game could change to survival horror.

Right now I'm waiting to see if green man gaming will have a 20% off discount in the future for the game but if not I'll probably ending up pre-ordering it for retail.

Also a note for those of you who haven't played Dead Space 1 or 2 and are thinking of picking it up on the PC. The pc version is a bit wonky for some people and the best fix is to turn off the vsnyc. If you don't, there can be a slight delay between pressing a button and it registering in the game. Also, an xbox 360 controller is highly recommended.

 

[blackened23]

I also really loved DS 1/2, both fantastic games. Definitely looking forward to this one.

 

[Maximilian]

I also really loved DS 1/2, both fantastic games. Definitely looking forward to this one.

Ditto, dead space is the dogs bollocks! One of the few good things to come from an EA owned developer.

 

[MetalMat]

Deadspace 2 was awesome, one of my top games of 2011. The game did a very good job of making you feel that every time you got in a fight it was a true fight for your life.

 

[adlep]

I am a fan, enjoying these...Keep cranking them out...

 

[Madia]

I finished playing through both Dead Space games and they still hold up well. I know there's a lot of negative buzz about the third game (co-op, microtransactions, not optimizing it for the pc) but I'm still really looking forward to it and have it pre-ordered.

 

[Grey!matter]

I've been contemplating buying 1/2 from steam for a long time, is there any drm on either of them if bought from steam?

 

[mindcycle]

Here's the details on all the microtransactions in DS3 so you can decide for yourself if it's a big deal or not.

* Bot Capacity Upgrade $4.99
* Bot Personality Pack $4.99
* First Contact Pack Free
* Marauder Pack $4.99
* Sharpshooter Pack $4.99
* Tundra Recon Pack $4.99
* Witness the Truth Pack $4.99
* Bot Accelerator $4.99
* Epic Weapon & Resource Pack $2.99
* Online Pass $9.99
* Ultra Weapon & Resource Pack $1.99
* Resource Pack $0.99

Read more at http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/...-3s-microtransactions.htm#DxBdoz7vtCgOV1u5.99

 

[Madia]

I've been contemplating buying 1/2 from steam for a long time, is there any drm on either of them if bought from steam?

No, steam is the drm. I have the physical copy of DS2 and it requires me to log into my origin account in game (I don't need origin to run it though). The login is automatic. The steam version probably also requires you to log into your origin account - not as drm but because the game has multi player.

 

[blackened23]

I've been contemplating buying 1/2 from steam for a long time, is there any drm on either of them if bought from steam?

Well, considering steam *is* DRM?

The only annoying thing is that some games have multi layered DRM such as GFWL and SecuROM (see also: GTA IV), but Dead Space 1/2 did not have those.

It only uses Steam DRM - it will log onto EA's authentication servers to check what DLC you have, but if it doesn't connect it doesn't prevent you from playing. It's very similar to what Dragon Age Origins does - logs on EA's authentication servers to check DLC / cloud saves, but doesn't prevent you from playing if you don't connect. So the only DRM within Steam DS 1/2 is steam itself.

The steam versions of DS1/2 don't require origin in any way, shape or form - note that EA's DLC/cloud save servers are *not* related to origin. If you don't want to log on, it doesn't hold a stop sign in front of you.

 

[shishi]

Where you guys thinking of getting it?

 

[Madia]

Where you guys thinking of getting it?

I preordered mine at green man gaming. It's $60, has the preorder bonuses and you can either get $5 back or $8 credit. I chose the credit and will probably put it towards Skyrim: Dragonborn.

While Dead Space 2 doesn't require origin to play it might require it for multiplayer. No big loss though since I imagine multiplayer is pretty dead at this point. Also, the DS2 Dlc (Severed) was never released for the PC so there's no loss there. Dead Space 3 however will be an origin exclusive.

 

[shishi]

I preordered mine at green man gaming. It's $60, has the preorder bonuses and you can either get $5 back or $8 credit. I chose the credit and will probably put it towards Skyrim: Dragonborn.

While Dead Space 2 doesn't require origin to play it might require it for multiplayer. No big loss though since I imagine multiplayer is pretty dead at this point. Also, the DS2 Dlc (Severed) was never released for the PC so there's no loss there. Dead Space 3 however will be an origin exclusive.

Ah, I just bought mine from DirectGameCards.com it was $54 there, they charge in Euros. I suppose with the $5 back it's a similar price. But the credit is nice, I buy from GMG often.

[ot] I'm so excited for Ni no Kuni as well, going to get it soon

 

[cmdrdredd]

The game is a direct console port with mouse and keyboard support. No higher resolution textures or extra features at all.

The following reads like someone who just doesn't give a shit.

Visceral Games executive producer Steve Papoutsis has defended the decision to release a near-direct port of the console version of Dead Space 3 to PC.

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Papoutsis has said the uproar surrounding this matter has left Visceral Studio "discredited for the amount of effort that goes into" the PC version.

"It's confusing to me that this question even comes up," said Papoutsis when Shacknews enquired about the PC port.

"It's by no means any less important to us; it gets a lot of attention. The PC is a very different platform. As developers, you want to deliver an experience that's as similar as possible on different platforms," he said.
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Papoutsis added, "The fact that we're allowing you to control the game with a mouse and keyboard immediately makes the game feel different."

 

[ImpulsE69]

It confuses me that this question even comes up translates to a guy who doesn't game on PC or he would know why this question comes up.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Exactly...he has to know that a modern PC with even a 7870 is vastly superior and can do many more things on screen visually than an XBox 360. My friend's 6 year old knows that a PC can do better visuals just from playing Batman.

The fact that he doesn't care or thinks that "allowing" us to use a mouse to aim is somehow gracing us with a special privilege is crazy to me.

 

[blackened23]

Oh gimme a break. DS 2 had PC only features and it was a graphical upgrade over the console versions - it has improved lighting, advanced shadows, AA, and some other things. The textures were also improved over the console versions. DS3 PC will also have these features.

Dead space 1/2 were GREAT games and easily in the top 5 games period in the years of their respective release. How easily this fact gets glossed over because it doesn't have DX11 tessellation.

If DS3 is similar to DS2 on PC, I will buy it.... DS2 was FINE on the PC; judge the game by looking at the gameplay - the graphics of DS2 did not detract from the game at all, and it actually looked very nice on the PC with FXAA for AA. Too many PC snobs whining about something that is rather meaningless.

 

[ImpulsE69]

It won't....as why there is even a discussion. Read some. DS1/2 had improvements. DS3 is a direct port and will have no improvements. (oh wait we lied...mouse/kb support!) ;p

 

[blackened23]

It won't....as why there is even a discussion. Read some. DS1/2 had improvements. DS3 is a direct port and will have no improvements. (oh wait we lied...mouse/kb support!) ;p

The producer clarified (later) to state that it will have the same graphical improvements that PC DS2 had.

PC snobs need to get over themselves. I'm all for DX11 when possible but DS2 was just a fantastic game despite having only a handful of improvements - DS3 will be the same, i'm sure. To me this is all about gameplay - but as I mentioned earlier, DS2 on the PC looked great and was a great game. I'm sure DS3 will look similar to DS2 which is A-OKAY with me.

 

[cmdrdredd]

They announced it will have the same textures. Oh but you can select your resolution and add blur filter (ie txaa).

Quit defending garbage.

If you want to fork money over to a company who craps all over why we even have a PC suitable for gaming, then you are helping others copy this strategy.

 

[blackened23]

I'm not defending anything. I care primarily about the gameplay while others apparently refuse to play anything that doesn't have tessellation.

DS2 looked great on the PC, but that was a secondary consideration to the underlying game which was fantastic.

 

[rgallant]

DS3 will be the same, i'm sure.

still sounds like he doesn't know how the PC version will play out , like in never tried it myself but they told me it's fine. lol

 

[ImpulsE69]

I'm not a PC snob by far, and if you've ever seen my posts you know that graphics are not at all my be all end all (hell I am currently playing the origional Megaman series and just finished Xenogears, and currently playing Xenoblade Chronicles...granted on Dolphin because it by far is superior).

I DO however have issues with the trends that game companies are making. Day 1 DLC, shoddy ports, the in your face "we aren't even trying, just give us your money" attitude. Thus why I wait for bargain bin prices. The air of we just don't care is way too strong with major companies these days.

I almost considered even preordering Aliens Colonial Marines, but then found out they are pretty much "pffft"ing the PC community so fug em, $5 bin it will be. Same with this game.

EDIT: actually...i'd been operating under the forgotten point that this game will be Origin only, so I will probably skip it anyway which is too bad because I too did enjoy DS1/DS2

 

[Madia]

As someone who doesn't own a console I'm just glad that I get to play Dead Space 3 even if it is a straight port. While I don't agree with Visceral's or any studio's decision not to take advantage of the pc's advanced hardware, if it's a good game I want to play it.

Remember Dark Souls and the petition to get in on PC? When it finally came out on PC a lot of people bought and enjoyed it even though it was a straight port and had it's share of problems (thankfully fixed by modders.)

I don't think boycotting DS3 or any PC game that's a straight console port is going to help the situation. Strong sales of a straight PC port isn't going to cause good studios to stop producing quality PC games. If straight console ports sell start to sell really well Dice isn't suddenly going make Battlefield 4 a straight console port or not work as hard on their PC version. Good studios are still going to produce good PC games and those that settle for straight console ports are still going to produce console ports. I can understand boycotting shoddy console ports but the only thing boycotting studio's straight ports can accomplish is for those studios to stop porting their games onto PC. That's something I don't want to happen because it will deprive me of playing quality games.

 

[blackened23]

I just don't get it really. Sure, DS2 on PC didn't have fancy DX11 effects but it did have additional features over console versions - and (as i've mentioned numerous times) the graphics were pretty good.

I would say that the PC version of DS2 was way better than the PC version of Dark Souls. To suggest that they're both of the same calibur in terms of the port quality would be disingenuous; Dark Souls just looks terrible unless it is modded. Mouse / KB controls are garbage, not to mention the 30 fps limit (unless modded). That isn't the case with DS2 - it was a pretty good port with PC specific features. (yes - Dark Souls is great with mods, but without mods is pretty terrible..)

Now I've seen some bad console ports. Both prototype games, for example - they just look bad and play pretty bad as well. DS1/2 on PC wasn't in that league, they were graphically pretty good. Gameplay wise they were both great.

Would I like DX11 features? Sure - but basing my judgement from the PC versions of DS1 and 2, i'm confident this will be a good port despite not having DX11 features. I feel that most people who have played DS2 on PC would agree with this; I thought it was great, maybe i'm wrong though. Anyway, i'm looking forward to DS3. Game should be great.