(Dead) TEON 20 pack 4x (Maybe 8x) DVD+R or DVD-R Discs Spindle for "4.99" AR at Staples

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0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: rile0161
Both of the Staples by me only had stacks and stacks of the -rs, no +rs to be seen...I was hoping for some 8x Phillips, but oh well. Picked up a pack of the -rs, testing will commence shortly.

sorry if i seem niave(new to burning), whats the difference? damnit i forgot to check for different + - versions. not labeled all that clearly
 

0roo0roo

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nm found a semi dated answer

Q: What is DVD+R/+RW media?
A: It is just a name that company that initially design the "Plus" formatted disc use to differentiate themselves from the -R formatted industry. The +R formatted media usually runs at a higher price comparing to -R media, but the volume of sale has dramatically increase during the past few month due to the price decrease.

Q: What is the difference between DVD+R and DVD-R? Is DVD+R better than DVD-R?
A: Pioneer produced the first DVD writer in 1997. It used the DVD-R format. The DVD-RW came later. In 1999 the DVD Forum was formed. It embraced the DVD-R format.
In the summer of 1997 Philips lead a group (included Sony and Hewlett-Packard) that split away from other disk manufacturers because of disputed over DVD writing standards. They formed the DVD+RW alliance. Since then Dell, MCC/Verbatim, Mitsubishi, Ricoh, Thomson, and Yamaha have joined the group. They developed the DVD+RW DVD writing format and later the DVD+R format which was derived from the DVD+RW format.

CDRInfo ran some compatibility tests on both PC and home DVD drives. They found the following:
DVD-R=96.74%
DVD+R=87.32%

Today some manufactures just make either + drivers or - drivers. Others produce both types. Last September Sony produced the first drive that wrote both + and - formats the DRX-500UL. Now there are several drives that can write both formats. If this trend continues then the answer may be that both formats will continue. Also if DVD read-only drives are all made to read either then it won't make any difference which format you use.
It comes down to this:
1) DVD-R disks seem to be cheaper now
2) DVD-R disks seem to be more compatible with read-only drives
3) Current writers can write DVD-R/-RW at 2.4X while DVD+R/+RW at 4X
4) If you make disks for yourself then it does not make any difference which format you use
5) If you make disks for someone else then you make disks that they can read


guess i missed out on half the deal, oh well
 

ww4397

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Just did a 4x burn in my BTC 1008 drive using a -R disc. Full 4x burn. No problems.
 

nealh

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Mine were CMC as well..4x dvd+r....seem to burn fine at 4x...

The Staples in Brandon had alot of +r..just a few of -r
 

Caveman2001

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Originally posted by: Caveman2001

After I do a burn later tonight, I'll post the results. I have a TDK Indeo (rebadeged plextor 708A) for the test burn.


Just burned a backup of a movie and it burned fine at 8x in my burner and plays fine in all my players. I'm a happy camper now.
 

zaph

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Originally posted by: soundforbjt
Originally posted by: zaph
I picked up 2 20pks of the +R's

UPC: 6 37668 40002 8

Here's what DVD infoPRO shows on them


Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID PHILIPS C08
Media Product Revision Number 00h
Free Blocks 405405696
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Media Id Code Speed 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1


Right below the UPC, what country is it made in? Mine were (DVD+R's) made in Taiwan and they were CMC Mags .



Mine were marked Made In Taiwan
 

ZowieHowie

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Originally posted by: allisolm
If you get these and submit for the rebate online, be careful as there are separate forms for the +R and the -R items.

I cant find the online submission for these DVDs. I dont see them listed on staplesrebates.com Did anyone find them elsewhere?
 

foolish501

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well just burnt my first dvd-r disk on my toshiba 5112 which is normally very picky on disks. but burnt at 4x with no errors.
 

jTek

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Originally posted by: ZowieHowie
Originally posted by: allisolm
If you get these and submit for the rebate online, be careful as there are separate forms for the +R and the -R items.

I cant find the online submission for these DVDs. I dont see them listed on staplesrebates.com Did anyone find them elsewhere?

The on-line submission is here.

OP, why did you mark this dead? The rebate is good through 5/22/04, although the ad says Sunday only. I would think in some less traveled places, there will be some left today. I my local Staples, there was still a good stack of both +R and -R at 3 pm so I would think there are still more available today at least.
 

allisolm

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OP, why did you mark this dead? The rebate is good through 5/22/04, although the ad says Sunday only.

The rebate form is good for the rest of the week, but perhaps the $14.94 price isn't. Maybe someone going to a Staples today can check that out.


I cant find the online submission for these DVDs. I dont see them listed on staplesrebates.com

You have to search for the SKU or the UPC or the promotion number to get them.

The rebates for -R is here.

The rebate for +R is here as shown in jtek's post.
 

BadNomad

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I picked up one of the DVD-R yesterday. There were 5-6 packs left in the bin at about 5:00 pm yesterday. (Lexington KY.) I ripped 2 of them last night with my IM1004 no problems. Sweet Deal!
 

jcgoldner

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This deal is not dead. I just bought two packs of the +R's for $14.94 each and the rebate is good through the end of the week I believe. I hope I got the 8x +R's!
 

allisolm

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Thanks jcgoldner for getting back to us with that information.
 

Cherub

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Found plenty of both in a Boston Staples Express. Too bad the deal is limited to 2 rebates per household.

I can also confirm that the + discs are coming up as 8x.

Also, I called the rebate center today because I noticed that the rebate form makes no mention of requiring a UPC to be provided. Suspicious of this omission, I checked it out. The representative (who was speaking such poor English I could not make out one word of her greeting) indicated that no UPC is required. But then she said something that I am hearing more and more lately: "you can send it if you want to." This statement makes no sense. What pleasure would I be expecting that I desire to add steps to the process?! It just makes me suspicious again...

BTW, this is definitely not a dead deal, at least not in my area. The rebate form clearly states "REBATE END DATE: 05/22/04".
 

katka

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The rebate says "Limit 2 per product", does this mean 2 +R and 2-R or 2 period?
 

SolderSucker

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I bought about 6 packs of these between Sunday and today. So, the deal is still alive if u can find any leftovers. Out of the 5 DVD+R, only 2 were Philips and the other 3 were CMC. There seems no obvious way to tell which you are getting before u open and test them. I have noticed that some of the CMC are capable of 8x while some are only good for 4x in the same pack. Odd.
 

Lark888

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Picked up two packs of -R DVDs. These CMC MAG AF01 disks are the same disks as packaged by Memorex. I've had excellent burns with an NEC 2500A with Herrie's Firmware (1.06b7) - Kprobe 1.1.26 PI values 5-10 through first 80% of disk slowly increasing to about 15-20 at the end; PO values of 1 & 2.

And I picked mine up today (Tuesday); still had both -R and +Rs in the bin. Rebates printed at register and are valid to the end of week.
 

Dogbertt

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Watch out for that deal my ad says Sunday only and they wouldn't sell it to me on Monday
 

SemperFi

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I went today to see if I could get lucky. Manager said they were gone. He added they had 48 of each and were all gone within an hour. He also said they set a limit of 5 ea.

Oh well. I was just hopin to find some +r that were 8x. I haven't got to use mine at 8x yet.
 

SolderSucker

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For those that are near the Saddle Brook NJ Staples, they still have about 20 of the + and about 12 of - left. They are in the office furniture section for some reason.
 

jTek

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Originally posted by: Dogbertt
Watch out for that deal my ad says Sunday only and they wouldn't sell it to me on Monday
What a business friendly Staples! You may want to tell us where that is so that we will avoid the place.
 

QuicknDirty

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I picked up 2 more packs of the -R discs today, $14.99 - rebate for each. $20 for 80 4x DVD-R's is pretty hot.
 
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