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b2386

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Originally posted by: Wolfcastle
Originally posted by: b2386
What is your official definition of "death"?

That question actually could be pretty complex. For sake of argument, let's just say a qualified coroner who states that you are no longer alive in the legal sense.

So let's say someone's heart stopped beating temporarily for 5 minutes, would they be dead at any point in that time?
 

Locut0s

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Originally posted by: Leros
I am 99.9999% confident that I will rot in the ground.

99.9999% because you can never be sure about anything. Reality included. I have no freaking clue if I live in a computer simulation or if I'm really in a coma dreaming.

 

ed21x

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Since I gave the first response, I might as well answer. I believe in Christianity as absolute truth. To me, I see everything else through it. Think of it as accepting a perspective that aligns everything I see in light of it's framwork. If you choose to accept another perspective, I think everyone will subconciously interpret everything they see to fall into their preferred framework as well. So citing a proof becomes irrelevant when we are going to interpret them differently. In the end, we'll both feel like our answers are the simplest, and the opposing view is backwards, wrong, and not firmly grounded.

In short, this thread isn't going to lead to anything productive, and it won't lead anyone to reevaluate their lives despite the gravity of the subject.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: ed21x
I believe in Christianity as absolute truth.

That's all well and good, but no amount of belief, no matter how strong, fervent, or pious, will MAKE it absolute truth.
 

Taejin

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Originally posted by: Wolfcastle
No agenda. Just asking how you know and why you know.

It's a straightforward question, but if you are being stupid about it, I'll call you on it.

Are you you after you die? Is what makes us our bodies or our brains? Is it our souls? What are souls? Is your soul your personality? If I drill a hole in your head and remove a significant section of your brain and you start acting like an idiot than is your soul more of an idiot as well? If your soul has nothing to do with you then why are souls important? If I can lobotomize someone and turn them into a criminal than is his soul affected? Do souls even exist? Does it even make sense to link souls to the body? If souls don't exist and your body begins rotting are you really you after you die? How long do you have to rot before you're not you anymore? Is there some sort of rubric to determine when you stay you after you die? is it one hour after death? two hours? a year? Do we even exist anymore after we die? Is it simply just over when we die? Are you an idiot for asking such a stupid, stupid question?
 

ed21x

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Originally posted by: Kadarin
Originally posted by: ed21x
I believe in Christianity as absolute truth.

That's all well and good, but no amount of belief, no matter how strong, fervent, or pious, will MAKE it absolute truth.

This is the kinda response our OP is trying to incite. I'd rather just agree to disagree; it's not worth degenerating.
 

JJChicken

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Originally posted by: Wolfcastle
No agenda. Just asking how you know and why you know.

It's a straightforward question, but if you are being stupid about it, I'll call you on it.

When you die, you get access to the secret AT forums: ATOT - AnandTech On-Topic.
 

huberm

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I believe that everyone goes to either Heaven or hell when they die. I came to this belief by examining the Bible. I determined that many things in it have been verified as historically accurate. I have also searched for anything that could have possibly been proven historically inaccurate, and found nothing. Therefore, if everything I have discovered in it can be sensibly determined as accurate, and nothing could be found and determined to be inaccurate, I can conclude that all of it is accurate. With that being said, it is my belief that what the Bible says about death is accurate and one determines which place they go to when they die according to who they live their life for.
 

imported_Section8

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Originally posted by: huberm
I believe that everyone goes to either Heaven or hell when they die. I came to this belief by examining the Bible. I determined that many things in it have been verified as historically accurate. I have also searched for anything that could have possibly been proven historically inaccurate, and found nothing. Therefore, if everything I have discovered in it can be sensibly determined as accurate, and nothing could be found and determined to be inaccurate, I can conclude that all of it is accurate. With that being said, it is my belief that what the Bible says about death is accurate and one determines which place they go to when they die according to who they live their life for.

What happened to Purgatory?
 

BabaBooey

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Jan 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: Wolfcastle
Originally posted by: Amused
Why don't you check it out for yourself and get back to us on it?

Thanks but no thanks. I'm still alive, and can't die if you don't kill me. I'm simply trying to ferret out people who are sure but have no basis of knowing why they're sure.



Way too much time on your hands....
 

ShadowOfMyself

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This thread sucks, even if its just trolling

Good luck using that kind of relativist bullshit in your life... Did you just figure out there are no "facts" and youre feeling excited so you had to post it on ATOT? Seriously, once youre dead youre dead, who cares what happens... Even if you come back to life in another time you wont have any memories, so its moot
 

TallBill

Lifer
Apr 29, 2001
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The hard drive space used to simulate me will be archived for a while, and then eventually deleted.
 

Oceandevi

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I will reincarnate because thats the best option available. that or godhood.
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: Wolfcastle
No agenda. Just asking how you know and why you know.

It's a straightforward question, but if you are being stupid about it, I'll call you on it.

I am calling you on it.
 

sandorski

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So i decided to ask Jesus about it and this is what he said: "It's kinda like ATOT. You die, then show up at the Gate of Heaven where Peter asks you some questions. He can sometimes be a real prick about it though. He'll ask stupid questions, then act like you ran over his dog when you give an answer. My advice to you, live as long as you can, that Peter pisses us all off, which is why we put him by the gate.
 
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Originally posted by: Leros
I am 99.9999% confident that I will rot in the ground.

99.9999% because you can never be sure about anything. Reality included. I have no freaking clue if I live in a computer simulation or if I'm really in a coma dreaming.

Or the universe may randomly become unstable and all matter gets screwed up.

Or some antimatter might destroy your body.

Or lots of other random little things that the universe might throw at you.
 
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