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travisj

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Originally posted by: deepinya
fyi- One HDMI connection

Ive never been a huge fan of westinghouse but my parents really wouldnt mind it.

I use 2 hdmi devises, one going through a monoprice adapter to the dvi port. There is no noticeable quality difference (I am fairly picky but haven't done test patterns etc.)

No problems with HDCP, my cable box requires it and still does fine going through the adapter to the TV.
 

chazzzer

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Originally posted by: CalebRockeT
If the 8% coupon doesn't work for you because you didn't "receive the e-mail," here is a link to a 5% / $15-max coupon that should work for all customers:

http://www.buy.com/retail/coupon.asp?prid=84773074

Wish I would have known about them before I ordered mine.

Yeah, fortunately I found the $15 one after the $20 one failed. I was going to post it here, but I couldn't find a non-affiliate link for it. Thanks for doing so and helping everybody else.
 

Synosure

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I'll chime in as well. I bought this monitor about a year and a half ago at around 1000 and I love it. I use it daily for pc use and its been great(Im using it now). I watch alot of movies and play pc and xbox 360 games with it and everything looks good. The picture in picture feature works nicely. I would browse the internet on the pc while waiting for a online game on the 360. You can even set them up to be side by side so you can see them both in equal size.

I don't have a problem with my 2nd dvi port like some people have mentioned. The only problem Ive had with it is a vertical band that only shows when the screen is completely white. It took a year for me to notice it and I very rarely see it during normal use.

The biggest downside to the monitor is that there is no tuner. That means theres not even a ntsc tuner to watch normal tv with. Also, if you are a pc gamer you will need a pretty powerful video card to play games at 1920x1080. You can use 1024x768, 1280x720, 1280x1024 and a couple other resolutions, but they don't look quite as good.

Overall its been a great experience owning this monitor but if I were to buy one today I would get one with a hd tuner.
 

thepieces

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This is a poor monitor I owned it and it died twice on me. Westinghouse doesnt cover shipping and takes very long to fix it. About $180 DHL. First time i got some garbled display and the tv was non responsive. Second time the remote stops working, i just sold it off.

I don't think this tv is good solution anymore. It features a terrible deinterlacing engine. If you attempt to watch 1080i through a cable box you will see very bad ghosting because the deinterlacer cannot do the job, you must revert to 720p. It has poor black levels, no TV tuner and a crappy remote. The technology in this tv is ancient. The quality of component inputs is terrible. You have no RGB controls.

Back when it came out it was the only affordable 1080p at the time. Now you have so many choices with more features and updated technology.

Look to phillips they sell cheap displays. Check out costco you can get 42" tv's for 899 or less. Westinghouse is really crap.
 

NaughtyGeek

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Originally posted by: thepieces
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Westinghouse is really crap.

Says you. For every one person such as you that has had an issue, there are thousands who have had none. At $600, you CAN NOT find a comparable set period. Sure, there are always better options for more money, but your bad experience doesn't make the whole brand crap.

 

Raider1284

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Originally posted by: thepieces
This is a poor monitor I owned it and it died twice on me. Westinghouse doesnt cover shipping and takes very long to fix it. About $180 DHL. First time i got some garbled display and the tv was non responsive. Second time the remote stops working, i just sold it off.

I don't think this tv is good solution anymore. It features a terrible deinterlacing engine. If you attempt to watch 1080i through a cable box you will see very bad ghosting because the deinterlacer cannot do the job, you must revert to 720p. It has poor black levels, no TV tuner and a crappy remote. The technology in this tv is ancient. The quality of component inputs is terrible. You have no RGB controls.

Back when it came out it was the only affordable 1080p at the time. Now you have so many choices with more features and updated technology.

Look to phillips they sell cheap displays. Check out costco you can get 42" tv's for 899 or less. Westinghouse is really crap.

Please point out a $600 37" 1080p monitor for us then, $900 isn't close to $600. Just cause you had a bad experience with it doesn't make it crap. As I, and others have mentioned, this monitor has worked beautifully for years without any problems.

No its obviously not going to be the best picture/technology, but the price/performance is pretty hard to beat on these things.
 

Psynaut

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What makes this such a great monitor is that it is one of the few tv's under 40" that is 1080p, the only other one I know of being the 32" Aquos. I am told that for a tv, under 40", the eye can;t tell the difference between 1080p and 720p, so they don't make them. However, for a computer screen 720p looks aweful, whereas a 1080p looks fantastic, at least with the Westy and the Aquos.

I bought mine used on CL for $650.00 about 9-months ago after reading all positive reviews in the hundreds of pages at the threads at Hard Forum and AVS forum about this monitor. Out of hundreds of pages I only saw one person who regretted his choice to get one, so I bought one, and absolutely love it. Everytime I sit down at my computer the awesomness of the setup hits me anew. I seriously hate working on my office computer now, where I have a dual 20" setup.
 

Psynaut

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I'm certainly no expert on monitors, but I have read several articles stating that refresh time claims are so variable, skewed, and inconsistent among manufacturers as to be a completely meaningless specification.

Has this changed recently?
 

NaughtyGeek

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Originally posted by: Psynaut
I'm certainly no expert on monitors, but I have read several articles stating that refresh time claims are so variable, skewed, and inconsistent among manufacturers as to be a completely meaningless specification.

Has this changed recently?

Nope.
 

ghost recon88

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37" 1080p is a joke. At only 37", 720p will look just as good as 1080p. If you really want to see what 1080p looks like, get a 42" or bigger. That said, there are plenty of good 37" 720p screens you can get for this price ($599) that will be a lot better then this Westinghouse.
 

Insomniator

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I can definitely tell the difference between 1080 and 720 on a 37 and a 32. That being said I'd still take a decent 720p monitor over this westy.
 

masterxfob

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i think the majority of the people buying these are using them for desktop monitors...
 

jlee

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Originally posted by: ghost recon88
37" 1080p is a joke. At only 37", 720p will look just as good as 1080p. If you really want to see what 1080p looks like, get a 42" or bigger. That said, there are plenty of good 37" 720p screens you can get for this price ($599) that will be a lot better then this Westinghouse.

Change your computer display to 800x600 and tell me you can't see a difference..most people seem to be using them (at least partially) as PC displays.
 

edplayer

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Originally posted by: ghost recon88
37" 1080p is a joke. At only 37", 720p will look just as good as 1080p. If you really want to see what 1080p looks like, get a 42" or bigger. That said, there are plenty of good 37" 720p screens you can get for this price ($599) that will be a lot better then this Westinghouse.


That is not true. You didn't include any distances. Anyone with decent eyesight will be able to tell the difference if you are right in front of the monitor. As you get farther back, there will be a point where you can't tell. That distance differs for people because not everyone has equal eyesight.


 

Imyourzero

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Originally posted by: brikis98
I use it as a computer monitor and the screen is incredibly sharp, the colors are good, and games, movies and text all look wonderful on it. The only downside is that the black levels are kind of crappy, but you really can't get a better 1080p set at this price point and size.

+1.

I jumped on one of these for work...I already have a 37W3 at home that I paid ~$1200 for, including a 4 year in-home warranty. Since I originally spotted this deal on HardForums, I'll provide a copy and paste of my post there:

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I've been using my 37W3 (non-SE) for websurfing, PC gaming, XBOX 360, and PS3. I've owned it for more than a year now, and upgrading from my 2001FP to this was the best decision I've made since I've been using computers.

I had a chance to compare this directly with the Sharp AQUOS 32" unit, and I ended up selling the Sharp. The Westy was honestly better for everything besides watching TV because, well...it doesn't have a tuner.

I really can't say enough good things about it. Text is very sharp, considering the size of this behemoth. I was halfway expecting text to be a bit blurry due to the larger pixel pitch, but it's not. Color reproduction is very good, and so are viewing angles (man it would suck if it was a TN panel). I haven't found ghosting or input lag to be a problem, though professional gamers might prefer one of the 2ms TNs.

If I had to pick on anything, it would be the black levels and lack of 1:1. However, with some calibration you can get very satisfactory black levels from this monitor without losing much detail. You WILL want to turn the backlight down, and it probably wouldn't hurt to play with the contrast and brightness settings. You can tweak it even further using your graphics card control panel. The lack of 1:1 can be remedied through the graphics card drivers as well, but of course that won't help you with other sources such as older game consoles. But XBOX 360 and PS3 look fantastic at 1080p on this display.

One other minor gripe is that the monitor doesn't always go to sleep. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. It's not really a big deal as you can always simply turn it off when you are away from the PC, though. This occurs with both XP and Vista. Note that I am using an nVidia card, so it may be different for ATI...but I have no idea if it's a driver issue or something in the monitor's firmware.

But let me say this...I think I paid around $1200 for my 37W3 over a year ago including a 4 year in-home warranty, and it has been worth every penny. For $579 shipped, I am probably going to hit the Buy button on one or even two more of these. I can't tell you how immersing gaming is on this. It's pretty bad when a 24" or even 28" monitor seems small, but this thing will absolutely spoil you. I recently brought my 2001FP to work because I was having to leave the 37" at home and go to work and use a Dell 17" 4:3 display. Talk about a stark contrast! My co-worker just purchased the 28" Hanns-G and has been showing it off to everyone that comes into the office. It was starting to get on my nerves since it would be kinda impractical to bring my 37W3 in just to shut him up, so I have spent all weekend looking at 26-28" monitors. But I might just have to bite on this. He will absolutely sh!t his pants...it's almost worth spending the $600 just for the look on his face and to make his 28" look puny, LOL!

In short, the Westy isn't perfect. But I hate to tell you guys...I've been reading reviews all weekend and NO monitor is perfect. Even the almighty Dell 3008WFP has its flaws...maybe not very many, but yep, it has issues as well. The expensive NEC and Eizo monitors are a heck of a lot better than many of the mid-level consumer monitors that most members here own, but they cost a lot more than the Westy for a lot less size. I'm not saying that this monitor is the best for graphics pros, but for gaming and general PC use it's hard to beat. I've seen TN panels that are much smaller approach this price for Pete's sake!

My only worry is getting one with a dead pixel or uneven backlighting. I was very fortunate because my non-SE arrived in perfect shape with no dead pixels. I would really rather not have to deal with Westinghouse, as I hear their warranty service takes forever. I need to take a look at my credit cards because I know some of them offer warranties on anything that you purchase...I'd feel a bit better knowing that I had another avenue of getting satisfaction in the event of a problem.

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Originally posted by: ghost recon88
37" 1080p is a joke. At only 37", 720p will look just as good as 1080p. If you really want to see what 1080p looks like, get a 42" or bigger. That said, there are plenty of good 37" 720p screens you can get for this price ($599) that will be a lot better then this Westinghouse.

I was going to ask for a link, until I remembered that this display is intended and marketed as a monitor, which makes your post irrelevant for many people here who intend to use it as a PC monitor or output device for XBOX 360 / PS3. In those cases, especially PC use, why would you want 720p? Games look much better at 1080p, and on a display this large I'd certainly rather have a desktop resolution of 1900x1080 vs. 1366x768.

I'm not saying that Westinghouse is the Honda of electronics. Yeah, there may be more problems and quality control issues than with LG or Samsung. But my 37W3 has been going strong for well over a year and I don't regret that purchase one bit. In fact, it's the best upgrade I've ever purchased for my PC. I have nearly 3 years of warranty remaining on it, and thanks to my credit card I have 2 full years on my newly-purchased 37W3SE.

If you want to spend hundreds of dollars more for a "better" brand name so that you can sleep at night, be my guest. After a search at Buy.com, many of the larger units (32/37/42/47") do not even have a DVI input...just VGA. This thing is designed to be a monitor, and that's what I intend to use it for since I don't need to watch TV on it...I purchased a second Westinghouse display based on my own experience with the brand, which has been very positive (although I don't really want to deal with their support as I heard it takes forever).

Additionally, during a recent vacation to a popular beach resort I noticed that the two large LCD televisions in the suite were Westinghouse units. Keep in mind the resort not a no-frills budget hotel, so I was by no means staying in a Motel 6, Ramada, Best Western, etc. Both TVs had great image quality functioned fine throughout the duration of my stay.
 

BIGFOOTPI

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lack of 1:1 ? On non-DVI? Because I'm typing on one right now. 1920x1080 over DVI and yeah- its 1:1. No "remedies" needed. Straight up ATI or nvidia - 1:1 over DVI at 1920x1080@60Hz. Mine is a recertified older non-SE.
 

CalebRockeT

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Originally posted by: BIGFOOTPI
lack of 1:1 ? On non-DVI? Because I'm typing on one right now. 1920x1080 over DVI and yeah- its 1:1. No "remedies" needed. Straight up ATI or nvidia - 1:1 over DVI at 1920x1080@60Hz. Mine is a recertified older non-SE.

I think he means for lower resolutions, not the native resolution.
 

Desslok

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Originally posted by: Crusty
Originally posted by: makoto00
Originally posted by: ghost recon88
Westinghouse as a brand sucks though. Their support is terrible, and their screens tend to crap out after a year (right after the warranty ends...).

is this true?

Who knows. One users experience is in no way indicative of the quality of the product. Your best bet is to do your own research on the brand name.

I can vouch for their horrendous customer support and the screen on my 22" crapped out right at a year. Thankfully I bought the extended warranty.
 

BIGFOOTPI

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Originally posted by: CalebRockeT
Originally posted by: BIGFOOTPI
lack of 1:1 ? On non-DVI? Because I'm typing on one right now. 1920x1080 over DVI and yeah- its 1:1. No "remedies" needed. Straight up ATI or nvidia - 1:1 over DVI at 1920x1080@60Hz. Mine is a recertified older non-SE.

I think he means for lower resolutions, not the native resolution.

other inputs - yes, other resolutions- no.
By definition it is impossible to achieve 1:1 pixel mapping on a 1920x1080 display if you are not feeding it a 1920x1080 resolution - lol.
 

CalebRockeT

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We're talking about Scaling here. I have a LCD in which the native resolution is 1680x1050. I am playing a game or, as you suggested, plug something in to an input that doesn't fill the native resolution. I can go into the Menu and navigate to the Scaling settings. I have three options, 1:1, Fill, and Aspect. If I select 1:1, it centers the display in the middle of the screen and shows it at it's resolution. Fill and Aspect are self explanatory. I assumed this is the sort of thing he's talking about. Am I mistaken?
 

BIGFOOTPI

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well, I have never known anyone that would rather have their low res games playing in a small window in the middle of the screen with black all around it on their big 37in screen just to avoid scaling.
Its funny we are going back and forth about a comment neither of us made and to this point still are not 100% certain of what exactly he was referring to. I could only go by the default definition/common topic reasoning of 1:1, which is usually referring to a true 1920x1080 source's pixels being mapped to the displays native pixels "1:1".

I just always assumed everyone that had a need to avoid scaling just set that in the nvidia or ATI properties. I haven't encountered a consumer TV display (not referring to a PC monitor only) that would shrink a lower res down to 1:1 in the middle of the screen on its own. I would be interested to know of any ones that do..
Anyway- after your last post I now understand what you meant.
No problem.
 

jzodda

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I am using this as my monitor as I type this. I have owned it now for 16 months and I feel its the best monitor I have ever owned. Its connected to my 8800GTX via DVI and connected to my Xbox360 via HDMI. I do not use it as a TV at all beyond watching streaming HD content or some x264 stuff. No complaints there either but I use it for gaming and that's where it shines. I paid $940 shipped at the time and I would do it again in a heartbeat. One of the best purchases I have ever made. No input lag, no ghosting no black level issues for me. If you are looking for a HUGE monitor then you can't go wrong with this one. I traded in a 24inch Dell monitor for this and I am glad that I did.

The people who are crapping all over this monitor don't know what they are talking about. Actually I see they are using it as a TV. I wanted this specifically because it did not have a tuner which makes it a better monitor for various reasons, not the least input lag. Maybe it does suck as a TV, I wouldn't know. If you want more details go below and read through some of the 6,184 posts (as of now). It was also a sticky until recently. Trust me, this monitor is awesome if your a gamer.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1088497

I have read Westy's customer support is not too good as stated. Luckily I have had no issues. Examine your unit thoroughly before you accept it from the shipper!
 

SLU Aequitas

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In for one--thanks for the heads up on the coupon.

Additionally, you can save another $30 if you sign up for the Buy.com Visa credit card (I personally didn't).

Total was $584 with the 5% coupon.
 
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