DEAD: ZyXEL NBG318SKIT-400 Wireless Router Powerline Kit-$39.99-Newegg

[Engineer]

Back in stock at $39.99 with $2.99 shipping!. Don't forget 2% Bing cash back.

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Includes NBG318S router (wireless B/G with true roaming and built in Homeplug powerline adapter) + PLA-400 adapter.

Great price on this router with built in powerline networking.

 

[s44]

So just to be sure: the first item includes the router (plugs directly into the power line as well) and one powerline adapter for the other end? And the second is just to have a switch on the other end?

 

[Engineer]

So just to be sure: the first item includes the router (plugs directly into the power line as well) and one powerline adapter for the other end? And the second is just to have a switch on the other end?

Yes, that's correct. The first is a kit. The 2nd is an add-on powerline networking switch so you can expand the kit (or you could simply buy two of the switches and use them paired together).

 

[mshan]

Yes, I believe second one has 4 ethernet ports, while included one only has 1 port.

 

[goobee]

Are you sure the router has built-in powerline? I think you need the PLA400 (which comes in the kit) to connect it to the AC.

 

[Engineer]

Are you sure the router has built-in powerline? I think you need the PLA400 (which comes in the kit) to connect it to the AC.

Yes, it does. You need the PLA-400 or another HomePlug AV device to complete a bridge circuit to the router though.

 

[mshan]

How is real performance of these router and powerline adapters?

(my baseline is an Apple Airport Extreme - 802.11n with gigabit ethernet - and Netgear XAV101 Powerline ethernet adapters)?

 

[Engineer]

How is real performance of these router and powerline adapters?

(my baseline is an Apple Airport Extreme - 802.11n with gigabit ethernet - and Netgear XAV101 Powerline ethernet adapters)?

I've read reviews on Amazon stating up to 50Mbps but that it varied. If you really need sustained high speed (25Mbps or so), this is a YMMV and you would be better served with Ethernet to coax bridges (at a higher cost) and use your existing TV wiring in your home (up to 250Mbps sustained but usually only have 100Mbps lan ports, lol).

 

[mshan]

Any idea how it stacks up against other routers and powerline adapters in terms of reliable, sustained throughput?

 

[Engineer]

Any idea how it stacks up against other routers and powerline adapters in terms of reliable, sustained throughput?

To be honest, no. I only have a Panasonic set of 200Mbps adapters and only get 20 to 22Mbps from downstairs to upstairs on them. I don't have these units (yet???? )

 

[goobee]

Yes, it does. You need the PLA-400 or another HomePlug AV device to complete a bridge circuit to the router though.

Great. In that case, I can just turn the wireless function off and connect it to my current router. Thanks.

 

[syadnom]

"To be honest, no. I only have a Panasonic set of 200Mbps adapters and only get 20 to 22Mbps from downstairs to upstairs on them"

200Mbits/s = 25MBytes/s less a 20% IP overhead = 20MBytes/s. 22MBytes/sec is pretty good.

this is like wireless G at 54Mbps which is really 54/8=6.75MBytes/s less %20 = 5.4MBytes/s in ideal circumstances. This is why wireless G cannot stream 720p @ 10MBytes/s, you need wirelessN at 150Mb/s ~ 15MBytes/s to stream any kind of HD. Blueray is still not possible on wirelessN

 

[syadnom]

One such possible use is to configure the powerline networking as a WAN port so your router can be better placed in your house if your broadband is somewhere else.

For me, my broadband sits right next to my cable box in the living room as that is where the jack is. I use a wireless bridge to get to my office but this could be used to bridge that gap as well.

wall jack > internet modem > powerline network adapter > wall wiring > router > PC

 

[jlin101]

I read a review that clocked it at about 35 mb/s, which is more enough for streaming HDTV . NE's price is significantly lower than others'--you can buy one kit plus two additional swithes for less than $90. I don't plan to use it to replace my existing LAN, but it solves the problem of adding LAN to my TV/SAT/BD. Thanks, OP.

 

[Muadib]

In for 4 of the switches, as the price is about the same as what I paid for 2 of the PLA-400 units. Thanks Engineer!!

 

[Engineer]

"To be honest, no. I only have a Panasonic set of 200Mbps adapters and only get 20 to 22Mbps from downstairs to upstairs on them"

200Mbits/s = 25MBytes/s less a 20% IP overhead = 20MBytes/s. 22MBytes/sec is pretty good.

this is like wireless G at 54Mbps which is really 54/8=6.75MBytes/s less %20 = 5.4MBytes/s in ideal circumstances. This is why wireless G cannot stream 720p @ 10MBytes/s, you need wirelessN at 150Mb/s ~ 15MBytes/s to stream any kind of HD. Blueray is still not possible on wirelessN

I get 22 Mbps as in bits, not bytes.

 

[goobee]

In for 4 of the switches, as the price is about the same as what I paid for 2 of the PLA-400 units. Thanks Engineer!!

Hmm, since I already have a router, can I use 2 switches instead of getting the kit?

 

[mshan]

These were $27.99 + ship recently: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833122338

I only have basic high speed internet (768/256), so I can't tell you about how well they can perform, but they do seem a step up from either the Netgear XE102 I originally had and also the Slinglink Turbo I recently tested (XAV101 seems to lock onto signal much more quickly than other adapters I had, though I can't assess peak bandwidth because of my limited internet connection).

 

[Engineer]

Hmm, since I already have a router, can I use 2 switches instead of getting the kit?

Yes. Not much price difference and you'll pay extra shipping for the two switches but you'll have more ports.

 

[CupCak3]

How would these compare to the draft 2.0 / final N routers out now? 300mbit/sec... I haven't been up on this tech to know if it performs well enough to stream 1080p in real world.

 

[Engineer]

How would these compare to the draft 2.0 / final N routers out now? 300mbit/sec... I haven't been up on this tech to know if it performs well enough to stream 1080p in real world.

Both depend on the conditions in and around where you are using them. Distance between units? Wiring age and distance? Same 120V circuit for each powerline device?

I'm not sure that these will stream 1080p well unless you are very close to each other and very little interference. YMMV of course but the same goes for 802.11n, especially as the airspace becomes more and more saturated with home routers, all competing for the same airspace bandwidth.

 

[konakona]

I know I should prolly read up on it on wikipedia or something but I am lazy. can someone enlighten me on what this power line networking thing is and its pros and cons, etc? just spare a few words so I can get some rough idea, thx!

 

[Muadib]

I know I should prolly read up on it on wikipedia or something but I am lazy. can someone enlighten me on what this power line networking thing is and its pros and cons, etc? just spare a few words so I can get some rough idea, thx!

Read this:http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/301843,setting-up-powerline-on-your-home-network.html

 

[skyking]

Good deal!
Turn the network around if you have a router already. Plug this unit to a computer and configure it with a free address on your network, and turn off DHCP.
Now it is a switch.
Plug it in at the remote location, and use the single port adapter by your router.

 

[Fox5]

Both depend on the conditions in and around where you are using them. Distance between units? Wiring age and distance? Same 120V circuit for each powerline device?

I'm not sure that these will stream 1080p well unless you are very close to each other and very little interference. YMMV of course but the same goes for 802.11n, especially as the airspace becomes more and more saturated with home routers, all competing for the same airspace bandwidth.

I wouldn't bother going for wireless N unless you're going for 5Ghz. Unfortunately, an all 5 ghz wifi setup can get pretty expensive.

It's disappointing that powerline networking often fails to match even 10 ethernet.