But its not just people like that signing up for terrorism. There are young, educated men leaving their first world countries to train with the likes of ISIS, for who knows what reason. Why do they feel so disenchanted that they turn to such heinous groups?agreed, you would never get me to buy into the whole 40 virgin thing, but if I lived in a mud hut in the desert it may seem appealing.
ISIS is a terrorist state that holds territory it captured through military victory over Iraq and Syria. That land can be reclaimed.
Then we both agree.
If we want to avoid another situation in which we end up sending troops overseas as a reflex reaction to a terrorist attack in the same vain as what occurred in France then we are going to have to secure our own nation by enforcing our laws, securing our borders and screening people who want to come in order to avoid another another adventure overseas.
However allowing PC bullshit like sanctuary cities and other flagrant non-enforcement of our immigration laws needs to stop now. We have been given a chance to learn from the horrible events in France. An open door immigration policy without any standards in place to control who can and cannot come in is beyond stupid and naive. Worst of all such a policy has been shown to lead to the loss of innocent lives over and over again.
ISIS is not just a terror state. It has become and is an idea, a movement which is something that is very hard to destroy. This is why we should never take such groups lightly. This isn't the "JV team".
Get rid of religion, or at least deal with extremists harshly, and you'll get that.
But its not just people like that signing up for terrorism. There are young, educated men leaving their first world countries to train with the likes of ISIS, for who knows what reason. Why do they feel so disenchanted that they turn to such heinous groups?
Getting rid of religion will do nothing.
But its not just people like that signing up for terrorism. There are young, educated men leaving their first world countries to train with the likes of ISIS, for who knows what reason. Why do they feel so disenchanted that they turn to such heinous groups?
What I have said many times already.
And why do muslims live in shit conditions? Because of their religion. It is anti-intellectual, anti-free speech, it is anti literally everything that makes the West win at life.It has less to do with the religion itself, and more to do with sociological conditions of Muslims around the world right now.
It is a clear and present danger to the sanctity of Europe. Mass immigration from the third world is actively gutting European culture.Well, unless they start deporting now, its to late. Angela Merkel opened the floodgates back in August. In 10 years time, If family reunification is counted [and it should], there could be 20 million Muslims added to Germanys population in just 10 years [Germany has a total population of 80 million today btw]. And that is a low ball figure, my opinion is the migrant issue is just the tip of the iceberg and its never going to stop unless all borders are fortified and people are sent home. The population growth rate in the 3rd world is ridiculous [most 3rd world nations double their population every 22 years] and with Europe waving free handouts, and promising the economic-migrants a free home/car...Those people will try and move there.
And the 20 million number is just for Germany btw. It doesnt count the people moving to Sweden, Italy, the UK, France etc. Europe is being colonized, thats all there is to it.
The refugee crisis is new. This attack was planned for a while. It's almost certain most or all were already there.
Not sure what difference it makes; they will all be shown to have very close ties to Islam and be first gen immigrants in substantial numbers or related closely to others in countries that grow jihadists like we grow corn.And why do muslims live in shit conditions? Because of their religion. It is anti-intellectual, anti-free speech, it is anti literally everything that makes the West win at life.It is a clear and present danger to the sanctity of Europe. Mass immigration from the third world is actively gutting European culture.
I think Germany is so sensitive to speaking out against any people after what they did in WWII that it has made them collectively too weak to ever speak out. Nothing about what they are doing now at the highest level of their government makes sense to me. Their level of guilt must be crushing them still from WWII, I can't think of why else they would simply open up their country without a care in the world. I know many Germans are enraged over it and this immigration crisis is going to create more hard core right wing groups.This has been going on for a long time. In 1994 I stayed with a German family in an exchange. The grandfather, who lost an arm and a leg in the war when he was 14 in 1945, said that it was going to happen. At the time the Germans were letting Turks and other muslims in. Mosques were being built all over Germany. Germans were fearful for their culture but anybody who said anything was condemned as a neo-nazi.
French have also allowed this to happen. Look at Calais.
Getting rid of religion will do nothing.
Religion in any meaningful capacity will die all by itself over time, the world will be better for it too.
I think Germany is so sensitive to speaking out against any people after what they did in WWII that it has made them collectively too weak to ever speak out. Nothing about what they are doing now at the highest level of their government makes sense to me. Their level of guilt must be crushing them still from WWII, I can't think of why else they would simply open up their country without a care in the world. I know many Germans are enraged over it and this immigration crisis is going to create more hard core right wing groups.
ISIS is not just a terror state. It has become and is an idea, a movement which is something that is very hard to destroy. This is why we should never take such groups lightly or trivialize their potential threat. This isn't a "JV team".
I think Germany is so sensitive to speaking out against any people after what they did in WWII that it has made them collectively too weak to ever speak out. Nothing about what they are doing now at the highest level of their government makes sense to me. Their level of guilt must be crushing them still from WWII, I can't think of why else they would simply open up their country without a care in the world. I know many Germans are enraged over it and this immigration crisis is going to create more hard core right wing groups.
As I have said in other threads, the liberals just don't understand the alienation they are forcing upon most of the population. They only keep it bottled up by crying bigotry at every turn, but that can only last so long.
1) dont talk about your mom that way
2) your a know Islamic sympathizer
3) a gun is a tool, not a religion, not a way of life, not an ideology, a gun by itself has no agenda, Hench the statement that guns dont kill people. Religion has over the years been used to breed hate, start wars, and lead to the deaths of thousands. Current radical Islam is leading to the deaths of thousands, denying that is just willful ignorance. Obama and people like you cannot open up your close minded liberal minds to the fact that the religion is used for violence. You are dismissing a root cause because of your own personal bias.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. There is what people think, what they say in private conversation, and then there is the public-consumption illuminated view they exhibit which is something else.As I have said in other threads, the liberals just don't understand the alienation they are forcing upon most of the population. They only keep it bottled up by crying bigotry at every turn, but that can only last so long.
Why are you trying to defeat ISIS? Before ISIS there was islamic terrorism and there will be after. ISIS is just another criminal, when you lock him you haven't stopped future crimes. Defeating ISIS is a temporary thing. If you want to seriously curtail terrorism in western nations (I don't believe it can be elsewhere in the islamic world except through monarchist dictatorships that keep a very tight order and put many under the regime's boot) you need to focus on islam in general, not just the current flavor of the day, ISIS.Yet the only way to deal with them for good is a full-scale ground invasion, like Iraq '03.
US does not want to do it, cost was too high last time on the same terrain. Question is is it even winnable without heavy casualties?
No other nation want to do it either, for they have learned what happened and is still happening in Iraq and Afghanistan.
My guess as things start to get worse, there will be coalition of mixed western and eastern countries.
Getting rid of religion will do nothing.
Why are you trying to defeat ISIS? Before ISIS there was islamic terrorism and there will be after. ISIS is just another criminal, when you lock him you haven't stopped future crimes. Defeating ISIS is a temporary thing. If you want to seriously curtail terrorism in western nations (I don't believe it can be elsewhere in the islamic world except through monarchist dictatorships that keep a very tight order and put many under the regime's boot) you need to focus on islam in general, not just the current flavor of the day, ISIS.
No, because "religion" isn't the cause -- extremists terrorism is.
What I do not understand is why the Muslims want to move and live in "infidels" nations such as EU, US, Canada, Australia and such? I haven't hear any Muslims that want to move to Arab Saudi or Iran or any other well know Muslim country in the Middle East or elsewhere.
If you hate "infidels" so much, why come here?