Deadly Shootings, Explosions In Paris

[MajinCry]

What I do not understand is why the Muslims want to move and live in "infidels" nations such as EU, US, Canada, Australia and such? I haven't hear any Muslims that want to move to Arab Saudi or Iran or any other well know Muslim country in the Middle East or elsewhere such as Indonesia.

If you hate "infidels" so much, why come here?

Conquest. The Abrahamic religions lay on the whole "war" thing pretty damn thick, with Islam being the bloodiest and most rapacious of the lot.

 

[Remobz]

Duh, because they want the entire world to be one giant Islamic state eventually.

I know Muslims who hate Canada and criticize it every chance they get yet they still love the benefits of living in a FREE democratic Country. I piss on those Muslims and wish they would leave the WEST!

France has been far too liberal with it's immigration policies. A change is needed now. Radical Islam is a serious threat to the WEST and Europe.

 

[Indus]

So much hate here.. I wanna know how many people will you kill to quench your thirst of hate.. how many innocent Americans will be killed in this backlash that wasnt even an attack on America.

 

[Blanky]

What I do not understand is why the Muslims want to move and live in "infidels" nations such as EU, US, Canada, Australia and such? I haven't hear any Muslims that want to move to Arab Saudi or Iran or any other well know Muslim country in the Middle East or elsewhere such as Indonesia.

If you hate "infidels" so much, why come here?

Because a lot of these people are muslims as a part of their life, not the bulk of it; they know that living in Canada is a hell of a lot better than living in saudi arabia. But then others come and still hate it (as evidenced by the fact they kill citizens once they arrive) or they are children of immigrants and like spoiled brats don't realize what their parents did when they dragged them as babies to a much better country.

I know Muslims who hate Canada and criticize it every chance they get yet they still love the benefits of living in a FREE democratic Country. I piss on those Muslims and wish they would leave the WEST!

France has been far too liberal with it's immigration policies. A change is needed now. Radical Islam is a serious threat to the WEST and Europe.

France has been, but so clearly too has Canada, as I assume you're referring to first gen or second at the most immigrants. Anybody who willfully immigrates to a country and then hates it should gtfo or shut up and assimilate and become a good citizen.

 

[LegendKiller]

What I do not understand is why the Muslims want to move and live in "infidels" nations such as EU, US, Canada, Australia and such? I haven't hear any Muslims that want to move to Arab Saudi or Iran or any other well know Muslim country in the Middle East or elsewhere such as Indonesia.

If you hate "infidels" so much, why come here?

To take advantage of the social programs, breed, and conquer. It's simple. If you can't fight with weapons, fight with breeding. Nothing more than what the Visigoths did to Rome. Rome gave up its sovereignty when it got drunk and stopped caring, instead trying to pay off the savages with money. Eventually the savages figured it out.

 

[Blanky]

So much hate here.. I wanna know how many people will you kill to quench your thirst of hate.. how many innocent Americans will be killed in this backlash that wasnt even an attack on America.

Pull your pants up and put it back in. Few of us here have called for busting out the carrier fleets. I think the response to this terror attack and others (I even said so earlier today before this attack happened--as did many others in a poll recently created) is to simply leave the middle east and leave it to its devices, cut back to bordering on shutting down all immigration from these countries with a proven history of exporting killers, and then work further on figuring out the wolves among us.

 

[LegendKiller]

So much hate here.. I wanna know how many people will you kill to quench your thirst of hate.. how many innocent Americans will be killed in this backlash that wasnt even an attack on America.

Why don't you go to the Caliphate with your trans friends and see if ISIS will listen to your "live and let live" attitude.

I am sure they'll be very receptive. In fact, they'll probably give you a free airfare home, as in the ground, off of a building.

But please do try to reason with them.

The difference between them and us is that they can live how they want to live. Just keep them there and we stay here. They don't want that. Nor do people who would rather push SJW agendas on the rest of the people.

 

[norseamd]

Because a lot of these people are muslims as a part of their life, not the bulk of it; they know that living in Canada is a hell of a lot better than living in saudi arabia. But then others come and still hate it (as evidenced by the fact they kill citizens once they arrive) or they are children of immigrants and like spoiled brats don't realize what their parents did when they dragged them as babies to a much better country.

This. Most Muslims care more about their own lives than Islam, just like most Christians care more about their own lives than Christianity. It just so happens that there is a very enthusiastic and capable minority of Muslims that want to wage terrorism, whether against Jews, Christians, or other infidels, and even their fellow Muslims.

 

[Indus]

Why don't you go to the Caliphate with your trans friends and see if ISIS will listen to your "live and let live" attitude.

I am sure they'll be very receptive. In fact, they'll probably give you a free airfare home, as in the ground, off of a building.

But please do try to reason with them.

The difference between them and us is that they can live how they want to live. Just keep them there and we stay here. They don't want that. Nor do people who would rather push SJW agendas on the rest of the people.

I lived wonderfully in the Republic of Singapore for 6 years while the US was in a recession and they not only let me work there but they never wanted to have me killed like you.

Your holier than thou shit does not fly

 

[sportage]

This all boils down and goes back to an idiotic shit kicking American president and his Dick of an VP.
The gifts that just keep on giving.... and giving.... and giving.....

 

[bshole]

I lived wonderfully in the Republic of Singapore for 6 years while the US was in a recession and they not only let me work there but they never wanted to have me killed like you.

Your holier than thou shit does not fly

Singapore is not a Muslim theocracy. Try living in a Muslim theocracy once and see if you get out of the experience alive. Your tolerance of them in no way reflects their tolerance of you. And that my friend is all the difference in the world.

The difference between science and religion is the difference between a willingness to dispassionately consider new evidence and new arguments, and a passionate unwillingness to do so.

 

[Indus]

This all boils down and goes back to an idiotic shit kicking American president and his Dick of an VP.
The gifts that just keep on giving.... and giving.... and giving.....

Agreed 11ty billion % but he still has his fan club. Ofcourse they happen to be the conservaterrorists.

 

[bshole]

This all boils down and goes back to an idiotic shit kicking American president and his Dick of an VP.
The gifts that just keep on giving.... and giving.... and giving.....

and giving.... and giving.... and giving....

 

[Svnla]

I lived wonderfully in the Republic of Singapore for 6 years while the US was in a recession and they not only let me work there but they never wanted to have me killed like you.

Your holier than thou shit does not fly

Singapore is NOT a Muslim country (Buddhism and Christianity are more popular). Better example would be Indonesia. I was there (Indonesia) a while back and it was not as hard core as the ones in the Middle East.

 

[Indus]

Singapore is NOT a Muslim country. Better example would be Indonesia. I was there (Indonesia) a while back and it was not as hard core as the ones in the Middle East.

Yes I've been to Malaysia, Indonesia.. I had zero problems.. Bali is a fun spot.

I even found my spouse there so can't complain.

Basically be careful of pickpockets more than terrorists.

 

[Blue_Max]

We will NEVER colonize the stars with backwards Muslims.

There's a reason NO science or development is coming from that part of the world:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqGt0YV1AMQ
Saudi Cleric Says the Sun Rotates Around the Earth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g84g2KJcUV0
Muslim scientist says world is flat and the sun revolves ...

They like to pat themselves on the head, saying we owe all our modern computers to one muslim's clever mechanical math invention hundreds of years ago... but of a stretch there, don'cha think?

...but what do you do with an entire culture who refuses to question themselves or their beliefs because to do so means DEATH?

 

[Indus]

Best solution.. stop living off oil, create renewable energy and you don't need the middle east one bit. Then just stop giving them visas and let them live alone in war if they want.

 

[bshole]

There's a reason NO science or development is coming from that part of the world:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqGt0YV1AMQ
Saudi Cleric Says the Sun Rotates Around the Earth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g84g2KJcUV0
Muslim scientist says world is flat and the sun revolves ...

They like to pat themselves on the head, saying we owe all our modern computers to one muslim's clever mechanical math invention hundreds of years ago... but of a stretch there, don'cha think?

...but what do you do with an entire culture who refuses to question themselves or their beliefs because to do so means DEATH?

In other words they are kissing cousins of Creationists....

 

[LegendKiller]

I lived wonderfully in the Republic of Singapore for 6 years while the US was in a recession and they not only let me work there but they never wanted to have me killed like you.

Your holier than thou shit does not fly

I never want anybody killed, this is your mistake. I don't care how you live. Just don't call me names if I don't agree with it. I do live and let live.

 

[Indus]

I never want anybody killed, this is your mistake. I don't care how you live. Just don't call me names if I don't agree with it. I do live and let live.

That's certainly news to me because most liberals are live and let live.

Welcome to the Liberal World, Legend Killer!

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

This all boils down and goes back to an idiotic shit kicking American president and his Dick of an VP.
The gifts that just keep on giving.... and giving.... and giving.....

Actually, it doesn't boil down to that. France didn't support GWB or the Iraq war whatsoever. So...dumb on you. Yet, France is being targeted by Islamic terrorism. Go figure? Feel free to explain that without bringing simplistic & moronic partisan bs into the equation.

 

[Blue_Max]

This. Most Muslims care more about their own lives than Islam, just like most Christians care more about their own lives than Christianity. It just so happens that there is a very enthusiastic and capable minority of Muslims that want to wage terrorism, whether against Jews, Christians, or other infidels, and even their fellow Muslims.

More true than you know. When Christians are told to go out and help people, be charitable, don't hurt people and cheat on your spouse, etc, a lot of them just smile for show while thinking, "meh - whatever. I'll do what I want."

I can only hope that the fairly-recent numbers are accurate and that only 25% of muslims are enthusiastic about what's being taught to them from their own 'holy' books, and the other 75% are "meh - I'll do as little as possible just to avoid being caught by the enforcers who will punish me if I don't tow the line."

Mind you, even 25% still leaves a lot of people heartily going along with a very, very aggressive and violent ideology.


If you haven't, pick up a dang quran, flip to the middle and read for yourself. Don't believe your group-think, don't believe a lone voice - discover for yourself while you still have the freedom to do so.

 

[Blue_Max]

In other words they are kissing cousins of Creationists....

Heh... at least they created a lot more art, literature, music and preservation of knowledge in monasteries during the dark ages. I'd put that at least one peg up.

 

[Blue_Max]

Best solution.. stop living off oil, create renewable energy and you don't need the middle east one bit. Then just stop giving them visas and let them live alone in war if they want.

For once we agree!

 

[Whiskey16]

To be clear, I don't want to nation build in either country. I want us to go in with an overwhelming force and sweep through their territories on a search and destroy mission, then go home.

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And the fact that Bush's disastrous Iraq war had a hand in creating a fertile environment for Isis only strengthens the argument here.

???? Bush created ISIS in warfare without adequate rebuilding, and yet you're so idiotic as to desire war and then leave a region to ruin???

You dumb, bi-polar fuck.

Nothing learned.

Failed states encourage the fresh and anarchistic freedom to create new extremist groups.

What became ISIS was in the genesis of the USA incompetently manufacturing a failed state that the USA then had a major hand in encouraging and enraging sectarian division, marginalisation, and violence.

Yes, centuries old western meddling in the region began a jig-saw recipe for instability in the Middle East, but the extremism and violence of ISIS's inception is laid directly at the hands of the USA.

Much of the ludicrous disbanding of the Iraqi state army left tens-of-thousands of disgruntled Sunnis who went home, unemployed, and to then face Shia repression, and later an undemocratic coup supported by the USA to empower an even more violent and marginalising Iraqi leadership. Moderate Sunni territories went to an allegiance that desperation forced them into the hands of many former Iraq army members who were radically abused and violated under incarceration by the bush-league USA. Once there, the violent and threats will not so easily let them go.

The USA directly laid the foundation for ISIS.

Yet, Woolfe is so ignorant of history, that his rah-rah jingoism calls for further destruction and violation to sow the seeds for yet another group of radicals to emerge from. No solution offered -- only revenge bloodlust. Perpetuate the destructive circle.

Militarily? You go in (only with JUST and valid cause) and then have the sense and balls to finish the job. That job is the responsibility of security, respect, justification, and rebuild. Invest the time. You don't play a GI Joe fantasy of a glorious battle, pre-maturely ejaculate with MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, and then run away.


Beyond that? Assad's regime is demonstrably more violent in its tallies of victims. ISIS gains the greater derision as a few acts (and some uncoordinated sideshows) directly target the West. We matter more...fuck brown Muslims... Force them all home to the horrors they deserve..

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.....On a related note -- I am proud of my new Canadian government's respect and care for humanity. I welcome the proposed arrival of 25,000 men, woman, and children, desperately fleeing the horrors that are not of their own making. May that come with welcome this year and many more in need in the years that follow. Great states grow with the arrival of new and determined lives.

This thread's dominating theme of xenophobic hatred and derision of Muslims -- as of Jews in a Germany of Europe of the past -- is utterly revolting. Such far right generalised hatred and even calls for crime (forced deportation based upon religion) is inexcusable and yet regularly expected in the despicable culture that some AnandTech member's wish to perpetuate.