Deadly Shootings, Explosions In Paris

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norseamd

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There are a lot of Muslims already in America who need to go, and I'm all for sending them on their way back to the ME, sooner rather than later.

Looky here looks like someone found the magic button to learn how to play the racist and/or religious discrimination card.
 
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Love you man. Just plain love you. A total state collapse because of some refugees who make up less than 1% of the total European population.

Hysteria. Apparently some people get off on it. <shrug>

In a week they'll move on to the next outrage. Possibly, canatloupes with Ebola being carried over the border by 12 year old Mexican Muslims.
 

Nebor

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A great state is now in flames over it, France is practically lost now, with many more to follow throughout Europe, and when Germany collapses the EU is over. To hell with them and Islam, they can stay where they are. I'll fight to the death before I'm forced to recognize and obey sharia law.

Elect aggressive leaders so that I can fight them over there and you won't have to fight them at home.
 

hawtdawg

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Hey guys, I have a brilliant idea! Let's go attack some randomly chosen middle eastern country in retaliation, and then 10 years later, act completely fucking dumbfounded when a new generation hates us even more than the last!
 

hawtdawg

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Elect aggressive leaders so that I can fight them over there and you won't have to fight them at home.
We've aimlessly fought them over there for so long that the hatred is spilling over. How blind are you people? What do you think ISIS even is?
 

Nebor

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Hey guys, I have a brilliant idea! Let's go attack some randomly chosen middle eastern country in retaliation, and then 10 years later, act completely fucking dumbfounded when a new generation hates us even more than the last!

That's idiotic. Why would we choose randomly? Iran has had it coming for a while, and this is our chance.
 

CPA

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Yes I've been to Malaysia, Indonesia.. I had zero problems.. Bali is a fun spot.

I even found my spouse there so can't complain.

Basically be careful of pickpockets more than terrorists.

Take a read of what's been happening in Indonesia lately.
 

CPA

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Hey guys, I have a brilliant idea! Let's go attack some randomly chosen middle eastern country in retaliation, and then 10 years later, act completely fucking dumbfounded when a new generation hates us even more than the last!

Another person who's spinning this around the real cause.

It's not illiteracy, it's not oppression, it's not prior wars, repression, lack of wealth or opportunity. It's merely and simply because a large percentage of muslims believe the world should be governed by Islamic and Sharia Law, and there is no place for others who don't agree. This will not be solved by giving in to demands, other than full compliance with their religious views.
 

boomerang

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Dearborn, Michigan, home to Ford Motor Co. right outside of Detroit. Dearborn has the nation's largest Muslim/Arab population last I checked.

What are you referring to when you say "no go zones and Sharia law"? Do you have links to any news articles about it?
I live 45 miles from there and my wife's mother lives in Dearborn Heights and my wife has friends that live in Dearborn. The no-go zones spring up and are shut down by the Police. It's a ongoing struggle between the two factions. Sharia law is practiced when the authorities don't get involved. In other words if the crime is Muslim/Arab against Muslim/Arab, they police it themselves when they can in their own "courts". Obviously they are not chopping off hands, etc. That would be making the news.

We typically go out to breakfast on Saturday mornings and sometimes we go to a local restaurant that is owned by a family that right now, live in Dearborn. They settled here from Iraq. The daughter, who is in her fifties says it is becoming very dangerous in Dearborn and that they do not feel safe anymore. She is working two jobs having got hired by Chrysler working on the assembly line. She says she's done it both to get the family out of there and of course for the benefits. They needed the extra income so that they can afford to move out. This poor woman is covering a lot of miles everyday.
 

CZroe

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We don't even know if these terrorists were refugees or already legally in France.
What I have said many times already.
Not sure what news program my brother was listening to but he said that one of the first arrested admitted this hours earlier.

This all boils down and goes back to an idiotic shit kicking American president and his Dick of an VP.
The gifts that just keep on giving.... and giving.... and giving.....

Will this post make it into Allisolm's other thread? Stay tuned!
 

hawtdawg

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Another person who's spinning this around the real cause.

It's not illiteracy, it's not oppression, it's not prior wars, repression, lack of wealth or opportunity. It's merely and simply because a large percentage of muslims believe the world should be governed by Islamic and Sharia Law, and there is no place for others who don't agree. This will not be solved by giving in to demands, other than full compliance with their religious views.

Yeah how many Muslim terror attacks have happened in South American countries? That just a coincidence? Try hitting a beehive with a fucking stick over and over and over again and see what happens.

What kind of mental gymnastics does it require to really suggest that there is no revenge element here? You want revenge, and you've never encountered terrorism on any place but your fucking TV.
 
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WackyDan

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Hey guys, I have a brilliant idea! Let's go attack some randomly chosen middle eastern country in retaliation, and then 10 years later, act completely fucking dumbfounded when a new generation hates us even more than the last!

Keep assuming that it is that simple. THat is only part of their motivation. The fact is that if you are not muslim, you are their enemy. Not just because of what various western powers did in the middle east over the past century, but because you are an unbeliever. Their goal is a single global religion with beliefs that are dated by at least a couple hundred years.

Christianity for it's part, grew the fuck up with western societies. Can't say that for the muslim communities/societies.
 

hawtdawg

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Keep assuming that it is that simple. THat is only part of their motivation. The fact is that if you are not muslim, you are their enemy. Not just because of what various western powers did in the middle east over the past century, but because you are an unbeliever. Their goal is a single global religion with beliefs that are dated by at least a couple hundred years.

Christianity for it's part, grew the fuck up with western societies. Can't say that for the muslim communities/societies.

Yeah, so why is it that they don't attack China, or Brazil, or well, anything but western countries exactly? Never seen any of you Islamic extremist "experts" attempt to explain that one.
 

CZroe

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Yeah, so why is it that they don't attack China, or Brazil, or well, anything but western countries exactly? Never seen any of you Islamic extremist "experts" attempt to explain that one.

You serious?
They attack in Indonesia (Bali nightclub bombing), India (Mumbai siege), and Russia (Moscow theater).

"Western."
 
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WackyDan

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Yeah how many Muslim terror attacks have happened in South American countries?

https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy...shes-while-key-countries-downplay-the-threat/

Not as many or near as much but the presence there of Hezbollah has been growing since the 1990s. Hezbollah was responsible for the attack in Buenos Aires in 1994 that killed 85 people. Various terror groups are also linked to the drug cartels that use each other to launder money and purchase arms. Their presence in the region is only going to grow. To suggest there isn't islamic terrorism in Latin America is naive. It is and will replace the terror that the cartels brought to the regions.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...razil-latest-base-for-Islamic-extremists.html
 

WackyDan

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Bush created ISIS in warfare without adequate rebuilding,

The current administration's support/meddling of the Arab Spring had nothing to do with it then eh? Pretty stupid of you to be politically partisan and place all your focus/blame on Bush.
 

WackyDan

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This all boils down and goes back to an idiotic shit kicking American president and his Dick of an VP.
The gifts that just keep on giving.... and giving.... and giving.....

So the support/meddling western countries gave to the Arab Spring had nothing to do with the rise of ISIS eh?
 

Blanky

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So exactly what those of us who are not intellectually dishonest found; CNN now reporting one of the terrorists had a syrian passport. But, hey, let's just keep letting them flow into Europe.

Can people stop being fucking stupid about islamic immigrants finally?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-confront-the-danger-of-mass-immigration.html

Even before this recent attack
74 per cent of the French public said that Islam itself was "incompatible" with the values of French society.

Not surprising, given that more than 1/4 of French muslims were sympathetic to the massacre at the charlie hebdo offices.

This is what happens when you let the fox into the hen house.
They're no better than the ISIS extremists, it's just that they don't have the balls to carry out the same type of attacks that ISIS does or to travel to the ME and take on ISIS themselves.
Quoted for insanity by 5150joker.
Ok, how are you going to know who's Muslim or not?
You're telling me it's impossible to even guess as to one's religion based on point of origin? No statistical difference between somebody from China vs somebody from Yemen?
 

boomerang

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In two weeks this will all be forgotten from a media perspective. The media provides us with their perception. Those of us who see a huge issue facing the world will be marginalized and discounted. It's already happening right here in this thread.

Bottom, line? Nothing will be done. No changes except for some lip service. Some speeches given in earnest. So, more bloodshed, more carnage, more Allahu Akbar. What we get, we will deserve. The "everybody loves us" crowd will win not because they are right but because it's too distasteful, too not politically correct and will appear to be too expensive to take corrective action.

The new normal won't be pretty, but it will satisfy the people who scream the loudest.
 

Mai72

Lifer
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So exactly what those of us who are not intellectually dishonest found; CNN now reporting one of the terrorists had a syrian passport. But, hey, let's just keep letting them flow into Europe.

Can people stop being fucking stupid about islamic immigrants finally?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-confront-the-danger-of-mass-immigration.html

Even before this recent attack

Not surprising, given that more than 1/4 of French muslims were sympathetic to the massacre at the charlie hebdo offices.

This is what happens when you let the fox into the hen house.Quoted for insanity by 5150joker.You're telling me it's impossible to even guess as to one's religion based on point of origin? No statistical difference between somebody from China vs somebody from Yemen?

In two weeks this will all be forgotten from a media perspective. The media provides us with their perception. Those of us who see a huge issue facing the world will be marginalized and discounted. It's already happening right here in this thread.

Bottom, line? Nothing will be done. No changes except for some lip service. Some speeches given in earnest. So, more bloodshed, more carnage, more Allahu Akbar. What we get, we will deserve. The "everybody loves us" crowd will win not because they are right but because it's too distasteful, too not politically correct and will appear to be too expensive to take corrective action.

The new normal won't be pretty, but it will satisfy the people who scream the loudest.
I fear. What can I do?? Live in the woods?
 

Newell Steamer

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The current administration's support/meddling of the Arab Spring had nothing to do with it then eh? Pretty stupid of you to be politically partisan and place all your focus/blame on Bush.

As much as I hate Bush, ISIS' creation can't be blamed on him. His actions certainly caused considerable instability in that region, but it was most likely this that sparked the birth of ISIS; http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/02/us-usa-syria-obama-order-idUSBRE8701OK20120802

Cliffs: Barry did it.
 
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