Deadly Shootings, Explosions In Paris

[LegendKiller]

if a clip is used to load a magazine wouldn't both be technically correct?

What the flying fuck through a rolling donut are you talking about?

 

[highland145]

Pretty sure your rifle didn't have a clip.

1903 Enfield.

It's called a magazine you stupid fuck, get it right.

Ignorant peasant....or is that peon... or piss-ant?




Damn, you guys are tied a bit tight. Have you not realized that P&N is the perfect playground for smart-assery?


Assume Bazinga.

 

[LegendKiller]

if a clip is used to load a magazine wouldn't both be technically correct?

What the flying fuck through a rolling donut are you talking about?

What modern and common rifle uses a clip to load a magazine?

 

[master_shake_]

What the flying fuck through a rolling donut are you talking about?

What modern and common rifle uses a clip to load a magazine?

https://youtu.be/AF21sihEgOU?t=4m34s

ar-15 apparently.

isn't an ar-15 standard police issue these days?

 

[LegendKiller]

1903 Enfield.

Ignorant peasant....or is that peon... or piss-ant?




Damn, you guys are tied a bit tight. Have you not realized that P&N is the perfect playground for smart-assery?


Assume Bazinga.

This one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee–Enfield

 

[LegendKiller]

https://youtu.be/AF21sihEgOU?t=4m34s

ar-15 apparently.

So does the stripper clip running out prevent the rifle from firing?

 

[master_shake_]

So does the stripper clip running out prevent the rifle from firing?

when it's the last one you have.

sure!

i mean unless you throw it at someone.

but then you are definitely out.

 

[LegendKiller]

when it's the last one you have.

sure!

That's not how his sequence went, was it? He said his rifle was useless when the clip was emptied. He didn't say his rifle was useless when he ran out of stripper clips to reload the magazine.

 

[highland145]

This one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee%E2%80%93Enfield

That's the one I was thinking about. Kicks like a shorted whore.

Not as bad as the Mosin Nag. She's positively on my no fly list.

 

[Subyman]

Any link to that Jihadi John?

 

[LegendKiller]

Any link to that Jihadi John?

Yeah, just a bunch of guys who threw this together within 24hrs.


Not.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

what a horrible, horrible tragedy. my heart goes out to all affected by this cowardly act.

 

[norseamd]

Any link to that Jihadi John?

He is apparently a goner right now.

 

[lotus503]

I haven't thus far shared my opinion that the US should go into Iraq and Syria with ground troops because this board has a very isolationist bent and I didn't feel like arguing the point. The fact is, these people will only grow more powerful until they are finally taken down, and they will never, ever be taken down until western powers and/or perhaps Russia undertakes a major ground campaign to remove them. I'd prefer that Russia did it, at least in Syria, but eventually we are going to do it if Russia does not.

What is happening in Paris is going to happen in the US eventually, and my bet is sooner rather than later. If it is a major attack with dozens to hundreds dead, at that point we won't have a choice. We may as well do it before it happens.

Those who think we'll be safe if we do the opposite and stop bombing them are naive. If we stop, they acquire more territory and only get stronger. We know the Arab armies are too weak and incompetent to take them on. It can't possibly do anything but get worse without western intervention, and the violence certainly will not be confined to the middle east.

They are already no ordinary terrorist group. They have billions in oil revenue and over 10 million people under their control. This isn't a state sponsored terrorist group - this is a terrorist state, and they will not stop killing people, both Muslim and western, until they are destroyed. These people are from another century. They want to murder everyone non-Muslin and every Muslim not practicing their version of it. These people do not belong in this world and need to be removed from it.


To be clear, I don't want to nation build in either country. I want us to go in with an overwhelming force and sweep through their territories on a search and destroy mission, then go home. This is what we should have done in Afghanistan in 2001 but which Bush was too incompetent to understand, and it's what we should do right now in Iraq.

And the fact that Bush's disastrous Iraq war had a hand in creating a fertile environment for Isis only strengthens the argument here. If we are partially responsible for the death and misery these people have wrought, then it is our moral obligation to clean it up.

Yet we have massive death and murder here in the united states and wont put an ounce of resource into trying to deal with it. Nope when it isn't terrorists its just an acceptable byproduct of our society. When it is terrorists its cool to spend trillions. Our "Moral obligations" have us occupying darn near every country on the planet. I think the world has had enough of US "Moral Obligations".

 

[shady28]

You realize after the Russian invasion of Chechnya even worse attacks than this happened in Russia, right? (Or at least equally bad)

I love how you like to make implications that revise history to your own twisted lefty views. Even in the face of devastating failure of the liberal agenda, you just keep on lying.

Russia invaded Chechnya because Chechnya invaded Dagestan with plans to make an Islamic state :

"The Second Chechen War was launched by the Russian Federation, starting 26 August 1999, in response to the Invasion of Dagestan by the Islamic International Brigade (IIB). "

This was Islamist Chechnya's main economic activity :

" In place of the devastated economic structure, kidnapping emerged as the principal source of income countrywide, procuring over $200 million during the three-year independence of the chaotic fledgling state."

And the Russians destroyed them :

"The siege and fighting left the capital devastated like no other European city since World War II; in 2003 the United Nations called Grozny the most destroyed city on Earth.[79]"

 

[OCNewbie]

Apparently there are gunmen still at large. I assumed that the two that were killed (which is what most reports I read kept referring to) weren't the only ones involved in this.

 

[norseamd]

Apparently there are gunmen still at large. I assumed that the two that were killed (which is what most reports I read kept referring to) weren't the only ones involved in this.

Yep and nope.

The 2 terrorists that seem to have been killed were apparently the ones who were massacring the theater. There were at least 3 concurrent attacks on restaurants in the city.

 

[TheSlamma]

This has nothing to do with the US, it's the fucking French for fuck sake. There is no reason for any of this bullshit.


"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

When you get fundies who read this crap and the THOUSANDS of other lines just like it as literal this is the kind of crap we end up with.

 

[LegendKiller]

Yet we have massive death and murder here in the united states and wont put an ounce of resource into trying to deal with it. Nope when it isn't terrorists its just an acceptable byproduct of our society. When it is terrorists its cool to spend trillions. Our "Moral obligations" have us occupying darn near every country on the planet. I think the world has had enough of US "Moral Obligations".

"Massive death"? Where?

 

[lotus503]

"Massive death"? Where?

We have had 450 murders or so in Chicago alone this year.

 

[OCNewbie]

We have had 450 murders or so in Chicago alone this year.

Who's getting killed there? Productive members of society out for a night at the theater, like those in Paris?

 

[norseamd]

Who's getting killed there? Productive members of society out for a night at the theater, like those in Paris?

Irrelevant. And those killed in any large city cover a large variety of society.

 

[highland145]

We have had 450 murders or so in Chicago alone this year.

So you should point the finger at the chicago politicians, i say. The local guys don't give a rats ass, why should anyone else?


I don't disagree with you. Pull military to police chicago and many more to police the southern border.

 

[lotus503]

Who's getting killed? Productive members of society out for a night at the theater, like those in Paris?

I don't know any of the people killed in Paris or Chicago. I don't know the breakdown of good vs bad people or what your benchmark for either is.

The only thing im sure of is Murder is when another person takes someone elses life without permission.

But while your wanting to quantify the value of human life, lets go a step further and place the monetary value on it.

Thousands murdered here in the US every year and we don't want to put resource into alleviating that problem. But folks are willing to put trillions into stopping terrorist attacks, which by in large are far lower in number.


So if were going to assign value to human life where are the dollars better spent?

 

[peonyu]

I hope the backlash is immense, in particular against the German government for encouraging mass Muslim migration with their asinine OPEN BORDERS policy for MUSLIMS [of all people, are you fucking kidding me ? Most rational people knew something like this would happen].

Best case scenario for Europe - deport its Muslim population back to the shit holes they crawled out of.