wtf. it's not that hard to find someone who knows sign language.
Apparently there are multiple sign languages.
He knew some of American sign language but did not communicate well enough.
They also had TTY - he just did not want to use one.
By insisting in only utilizing one of many forms of communications that were available to him and usable; he limited his options. And he chose the one that was the least able to communicate in.
While he did get lost in the system and should have been cleared once the iPad was located; some of the responsibility was his.
Apparently there are multiple sign languages.
He knew some of American sign language but did not communicate well enough.
They also had TTY - he just did not want to use one.
By insisting in only utilizing one of many forms of communications that were available to him and usable; he limited his options. And he chose the one that was the least able to communicate in.
While he did get lost in the system and should have been cleared once the iPad was located; some of the responsibility was his.
wtf. it's not that hard to find someone who knows sign language.
Apparently there are multiple sign languages.
He knew some of American sign language but did not communicate well enough.
They also had TTY - he just did not want to use one.
By insisting in only utilizing one of many forms of communications that were available to him and usable; he limited his options. And he chose the one that was the least able to communicate in.
While he did get lost in the system and should have been cleared once the iPad was located; some of the responsibility was his.
Yeah, I'm sure there are Ethiopian Sign Language translators available on every block of northern Virginia and it shouldn't have taken them much beyond a minute or two to find one. And it should have been easily apparent to the prison that Ethiopian Sign Language was the only communications he was effective with and order one up without delay. Their Bushman Click Language interpreter they have on staff should be cross-trained in Ethiopian Sign Language so something like this doesn't recur.
f you're saying he chose the TTY, the article said the jail offered that; he couldn't use the TTY because it printed in the English language of which he knew very little. He was jailed on a complaint that he stole the iPad; where was the investigation or was he singled out not on evidence or corroboration but because it was convenient?
Very little of the responsibility was his.
He could not communicate well in ASL - suspect that he was using the Ethopian Sign LanguageMaj. Susie Doyel, a spokeswoman for the sheriff's office, which runs the jail, declined to comment on the specific allegations. She generally defended the jail's ability to handle deaf inmates and others with disabilities, and said several deputies in the jail are proficient in sign language.
that would indicate that he had enough to at least communicate - what he did neednever learned more than rudimentary written English.
He may not have been able to understand the full english; but he could have at least type out what he knew.When he was offered an opportunity to communicate, he said the jail provided a TTY device. Zemedagegehu said the machine was useless -- it types out English text he doesn't understand, and as a practical matter, he said, no one in the deaf community still uses a TTY device
He could not communicate well in ASL - suspect that he was using the Ethopian Sign Language
sigh. another one that did not read or understand.
it says he understood ASL. but that does not even matter. The story says they did not give him a interpreter UNTIL he went to court. so no matter what language he was using (again though he knows ASL) not having someone else who understands it means jack shit.
Yeah, I'm sure there are Ethiopian Sign Language translators available on every block of northern Virginia and it shouldn't have taken them much beyond a minute or two to find one. And it should have been easily apparent to the prison that Ethiopian Sign Language was the only communications he was effective with and order one up without delay. Their Bushman Click Language interpreter they have on staff should be cross-trained in Ethiopian Sign Language so something like this doesn't recur.
Zemedagegehu's public defender filed a motion after the guilty plea seeking to have the conviction overturned, saying prosecutors failed to turn over evidence that the man who claimed his iPad was stolen actually had found it some time before the guilty plea. Prosecutors deny withholding evidence.
A judge refused to overturn the conviction, saying the appeal had been filed too late.
The story is from him and his lawyer is that he did not get an interpreter until court.
Yet he says a different thing regarding events when he was booked.
They provided a TTY and an ASL interpreter (plus jail personnel has ASL training also). but he wanted/needed an ESL and did not like to use the TTY.
Yet he was unable to communicate that a ESL was needed/preferred because the TTY was in English
The article implies that he did not know ASL in the beginning, but learned it prior to the court appearance.
Now that is screwed up. How can there be a conviction if later proven there was no actual theft involved?
That doesn't mean that the jail personnel with ASL training ever had contact with him.T(plus jail personnel has ASL training also).
Yeah, I'm sure there are Ethiopian Sign Language translators available on every block of northern Virginia and it shouldn't have taken them much beyond a minute or two to find one. And it should have been easily apparent to the prison that Ethiopian Sign Language was the only communications he was effective with and order one up without delay. Their Bushman Click Language interpreter they have on staff should be cross-trained in Ethiopian Sign Language so something like this doesn't recur.
there is two things going on in this thread.
1. The people who understand what an injustice this is, because they've probably been to jail before... news flash! they aren't exactly "accomadating," to your special needs,
2. All the idiots who have never been to jail who think it is somehow way different than it actually is. it's not like what you see on TV. Idiots. Nobody is going to help you, No, they aren't going to accomodate your special needs besides "segregating," you,
meh, just send him to the chair, right? Justice is best when it's expedient, vengeful, and sometimes innocents die.
whatever: as long as the potential of that guy being turned into a murderer, after being imprisoned, never happens because he was murdered by government sanction, all is good, right?
see, here you go again: don't give a shit about the issue, just spout off nonsense about how you think things should be, how they actually went down. black and white reality only works for you, as long as you can invent it in your head.
maybe you should read the story before commenting, dickless.
Is this true?
read the thread on the father sentenced to the death penalty. glenn1 is a paice of work.
Oh I know. I was actually doing the setup line from Ghostbusters. :sneaky: