(DEAL DEAD) GeForce 4 TI 4600 128MB DDR for $339.95 (or TI 4400 for $249) shipped! (Tax in some states not included)

[bizkit]

I was bad I ordered one too! TI4400 that is.

 

[UofI]

The Ti4400 is a superb buy compared that to of the 4600. I originally orderd the 4600 and with some thought came to the conclusion that the 110$ difference dosent justify the little memory increase

 

[Instigator]

Just ordered the TI4400. Damn you anandtechers for making me buy it...tooooo tempting....hehehe

Dgear02 you got that right! Dam you guys! I was always thinking the Ti4400 was the sweet spot too and now look what you've done. Order confirmed. It's a steal! Hell, I even thought about buy the ATI 8500 with the AOE II for $130 (Gateway $50 instant rebate and $20 rebate for $130). Now I just hope to god the Ti4400 has good 2D like the ATI 8500. What can I say, but you rock schuang74!

 

[davidos]

EBWorld has an eta of 2/28 for the Vtek 4400s and eta 3/2 for 4600s. Maybe we'll (those that ordered the 4400 from Gateway) get lucky and have them come in early. Sounds like they are being shipped to retailers as we speak.


Here is a review of the VTek 4600. No ram sinks..... possibly add to get higher overclock? hmmmmmm
VTek Ti4600 Review

 

[gunf1ghter]

EBWorld has a long sordid reputation of pulling ship dates out of their bungholes!

 

[cremefilled]

To the computer hardware gurus out there:

The only purpose of a Geforce 4 card is to play high-powered games. Is there any game out right now that will stress a Geforce 3 or Radeon 8500 at 1280 X 960 or 1280 X 1024? I'm not sure if many people are aware of this, but most 19" monitors--those with dot pitch at 0.25 mm and higher--can't adequately resolve 1600 X 1200. They run out of pixels, and if you would take a magnifying lens to the screen, you would find that you can't resolve individual pixels. (Although it is true that the 1600 X 1200 will be displayed, albeit in a blurry fashion.)

Similarly, is there any game so processor intensive that there will be meaningful framerate differences at a high resolution (12X9 or higher) between a T-Bird 1.33 and a T-Bird XP-2000+ or a P4-2.2? I.e., is there any game where the mainboard's CPU becomes the bottleneck and makes a meaningful difference--such as dropping the framerate from 85 Hz to 60 Hz?

What I am getting at is that maybe people don't need to upgrade at the moment, and if you do (and I certainly recognize the hobbyist/enthusiast aspect of having a hot-rod system), you had better make sure that you balance the following factors:

1. A good graphics card.
2. A fast computer, with sufficient CPU power and memory.
3. A good (very good) and large (make that very large) computer monitor.
4. The software that necessitates the above hardware.

If you don't balance the above, and get something like a Geforce 4 (check) and a P4-2.2 system (check) and run that on a 17" monitor (nope) to play Quake 3 (nope), then IMO that is a bit of a waste of money.

Buying for the future is one thing, but if the software to utilize today's top graphics card is 6 or 12 months away, why not wait and spend the same money on a Geforce 4 Ultra or Geforce 5?

 

[gear02]

<< To the computer hardware gurus out there:

The only purpose of a Geforce 4 card is to play high-powered games. Is there any game out right now that will stress a Geforce 3 or Radeon 8500 at 1280 X 960 or 1280 X 1024? I'm not sure if many people are aware of this, but most 19" monitors--those with dot pitch at 0.25 mm and higher--can't adequately resolve 1600 X 1200. They run out of pixels, and if you would take a magnifying lens to the screen, you would find that you can't resolve individual pixels. (Although it is true that the 1600 X 1200 will be displayed, albeit in a blurry fashion.)

Similarly, is there any game so processor intensive that there will be meaningful framerate differences at a high resolution (12X9 or higher) between a T-Bird 1.33 and a T-Bird XP-2000+ or a P4-2.2? I.e., is there any game where the mainboard's CPU becomes the bottleneck and makes a meaningful difference--such as dropping the framerate from 85 Hz to 60 Hz?

What I am getting at is that maybe people don't need to upgrade at the moment, and if you do (and I certainly recognize the hobbyist/enthusiast aspect of having a hot-rod system), you had better make sure that you balance the following factors:

1. A good graphics card.
2. A fast computer, with sufficient CPU power and memory.
3. A good (very good) and large (make that very large) computer monitor.
4. The software that necessitates the above hardware.

If you don't balance the above, and get something like a Geforce 4 (check) and a P4-2.2 system (check) and run that on a 17" monitor (nope) to play Quake 3 (nope), then IMO that is a bit of a waste of money.

Buying for the future is one thing, but if the software to utilize today's top graphics card is 6 or 12 months away, why not wait and spend the same money on a Geforce 4 Ultra or Geforce 5? >>



Yeah...I figure none of the games support the Geforce 4 right now. I bought it because:

1. I have a Geforce 2 GTS reference board which doesn't have any fancy AA or anything.
2. I skipped the Geforce 3 line because I was waiting for something better, which is now here.
3. I got tempted by the idea of having dual displays.
4. I wanted a card that could actually use DirectX.
5. I buy too many things.

I'm still on a KT6 running a Athlon 1.3 GHz. It's powerful enough to handle the geforce 4. But I also figure I'll use that card for about 3 years.

 

[Delerious]

$339 is a great deal for hardcore gamers. Thanks!! I hope it comes soon!!!!!

 

[Dug]

<< Is there any game out right now that will stress a Geforce 3 or Radeon 8500 at 1280 X 960 or 1280 X 1024? >>


Not really. But Unreal2 is in the pipeline, and looking at Anand's review I would say you'll need all the power you can get.
Not to mention Serious Sam 2 @ 1280x1024

I remember the same thing was said when the 8M and 12M Voodoo2 cards came out.
Everyone said don't waste your money on a 12M card because there's hardly any difference.

Guess what? In no time everybody wanted 2 12M vodoo's in SLI because the new games could utilize the extra memory, and nobody wanted the 8M voodoo anymore.

And some of us do have LCD's with a native resolution of 1280x1024 that need the extra umph that the Geforce 4 will give.

 

[DealyDo]

<< And some of us do have LCD's with a native resolution of 1280x1024 that need the extra umph that the Geforce 4 will give. >>



And some of us have 1600 x 1024 on a SWEET SGI 1600SW monitor. I only have analog on my Geforce 3 so the DVI on the 4400 card will be a thrill as well.

 

[IshmaelLeaver]

Is there any game out right now that will stress a Geforce 3 or Radeon 8500 at 1280 X 960 or 1280 X 1024?

MOH:AA with all detail settings maxed out.

 

[schuang74]

Why is it every time a hot new NVIDA GeForce card comes out, we always end up having to justify the purchase of it to somone else on the boards? The point of it all is, if your not hard core then don't buy it. Who cares if "todays" games won't push the card to its potential. We arn't buying it for todays games. Unreal 2 and Unreal Tournament 2 are huge examples on where we are going. If you won't shell out the money to buy the card, then don't buy it (I still have a friend that owns a TNT 2 card and doesn't see the point of upgrading since he thinks Counter-Strike plays fine on it..... Even Counter-Strike looks conciderably better on higher end cards - 32 bit textures and all-, but he won't know because he doesn't get it either). For $250 for the TI4400 you just can't go wrong, it will be an awesome card! With a little driver over clocking, you can get it up to the TI4600 and beyond speeds. Early adoption are for hard core users only, if your not, please stop raining on our parade!

 

[TitaniumJohnson]

Got me the 4400 for $252.05 (damn that NC tax ). HUGE kudos to the original poster for the info. Definately made my decisions about the graphics upgrade from the GF2Pro easy to make.

TJ out.

 

[cremefilled]

schuang74, I wasn't meaning to criticize anybody's decisions. I am still mulling over this Ge4-4400 for myself. Just a discussion, and I think that people forget about the need to balance the four factors I mentioned. If you have a Geforce 3 on a 17" monitor, I think that it would be good advice to get a bigger monitor first. If you have a Ge3 and an AMD T-Bird 1.33 and a big, quality monitor, then the Ge4 becomes a reasonable (and fun!) upgrade to make, and makes more sense than going to an XP2000+ or going from 512 MB to 1024 MB of memory.

If you can afford it all, then God bless and have fun!

Yeah, it's true that people always have cautious advice with every generation of graphics card. But I don't think that I've seen the games lag so badly the state of the art video cards.

 

[gear02]

<< schuang74, I wasn't meaning to criticize anybody's decisions. I am still mulling over this Ge4-4400 for myself. Just a discussion, and I think that people forget about the need to balance the four factors I mentioned. If you have a Geforce 3 on a 17" monitor, I think that it would be good advice to get a bigger monitor first. If you have a Ge3 and an AMD T-Bird 1.33 and a big, quality monitor, then the Ge4 becomes a reasonable (and fun!) upgrade to make, and makes more sense than going to an XP2000+ or going from 512 MB to 1024 MB of memory.

If you can afford it all, then God bless and have fun!

Yeah, it's true that people always have cautious advice with every generation of graphics card. But I don't think that I've seen the games lag so badly the state of the art video cards. >>



Actually, games are usually far behind the graphics cards. I mean, I still have an original geforce 2 gts and it still runs every game at a very high detail and resolution. I consider this more of an investment than anything. I don't expect to see my geforce 4 used in its entirety for a while.

I think we should be telling everyone NOT to get a MX of any kind rather than debating about ge4 or not.

 

[roboninja]

But soon games will start using DirectX 8/8.1 technology of smart pixel shaders. Some current games, like Aquanox and Dronez! already use this (even if they are crappy gaems). These abilities simply are not present on GeForce2 cards (or even GeFroce 4 MX cards, damn those marketing people.) With these games (such as the afroementioned Unreal2), you will see a huge downgrade in graphical quality (not just resolution ability) on cards without these pixel shaders. This is the reason I am upgrading. Plus, I am slowly building a multimedia PC out of my old PC parts after I upgrade, and my current Radeon AIW will fit there superbly once I replace it with my new GeForce4 Ti 4400 in my main system

 

[Jza]

If I order the GF4 Ti4400 today, how soon can I expect to see this item back in stock and shipped out? How likely will this deal go through still? Please let me know, I really would appreciate it!

 

[UofI]

jza,
Its a good chance that you will recieve it with the rest of us. If they recieve them the 5th of march then perhaps the 10th
Dont quote me though!

 

[5150Joker]

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[Fishmonger]

I'm having trouble running Ghost Recon with all maxed out settings on my sytem (Athlon XP 1800@1610mhz, 512MB Crucial DDR, Geforce3 Ti200@205/480 - you can check my system rig if interested for full specs). I had a Radeon 8500 before, and it didn't run smoothly either and crashed all the time.

Also, RTCW doesn't run smoothly maxed out at resolutions higher than 1024x768.

So, there are some games from my personal experience that don't run very smoothly. Of course, it might not be hardware-related at all, I don't know if Geforce4 will even help things out, all I know is I was pretty disappointed that I still couldn't run games at maxed out settings even with a fairly top-of-the-line system.

 

[glc650]

<< I can't purchase anything from the gateway site. It keeps giving me errors when I try to register. I sure hope they get it fixed soon! >>

Me neither. I can't register due to an existing NECX Direct account and I can't use this account to login:

You attempted to log into the Gateway Accessory Store with an NECX Direct Login ID. You must enter a valid Gateway Accessory Store Login ID.

Dumbass gateway...

 

[5150Joker]

Here's a link to a review of the ti4600 card I just came across: http://www.gamepc.com/reviews/hardware_review.asp?review=vt4600&page=2&mscssid=&tp=

 

[glc650]

To anyone who was charged tax:

Was tax added before or after the coupon?

TIA>

 

[Deskstar]

I got through and succesfully ordered a Ti4400 to replace my Matrox G400 Max, running dual 19" monitors now and looking for continued dual support with highest settings. This makes a lot more economic sense to me than buying a GF3 (plain) or GF3 Ti200. If it arrives in mid-March or late March, that will be just fine with me. I expect this card to last me about as long as my Matrox (2+ years).

 

[LukFilm]

You can register several times and take advantage of the $50 off coupon. Just make sure you delete all cookies from necx Don't forget to change your address a bit, so the computer thinks it's a different person.