Dear God... the number of Americans who believe Saddam was directly involved w/ 911 RISES to 41%

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Rainsford
Indeed, but it seems like we're moving from "I don't care" to "dear God, the idiots will destroy us all". Don't get me wrong, I'm a BIG fan of democracy and freedom and equality and all that, but I can't help but think that we'd be better off as a country if, in November 2008, we destroyed the voting cards of that 41% of the population.

I can't help but think that we'd be better off as a country without the Democrats or Republicans. When you can make fun of 45-55% of the government based on a title, something is wrong.

We should hate individuals, not entire parties. Just my $.02

Hear, hear. The two-party system is killing America. I'd like to see a dozen parties, or none at all.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
You know whats funny about this poll that wasnt noted? This little gem:

Question 30: Do you consider yourself a Republican, Democrat, or Independent?

25 Republican

35 Democrat

34 Independent

3 No party/Not interested in politics

3 Don't know



Sooooo....the largest pool of pollsters are Dems and Indies? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA who is the stupid ones now?

(I am actually ashamed as Im registered as a Dem, although havent voted as such for 15 years)

hahahahahaha soooooo funny

edit: here's the entire poll: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19375611/site/newsweek/

If I had my hands on the raw data file, we could see the breakout of said questions. By that I mean we could see the answers to Q6 broken down by the answers to Q30.

 

[bamacre]

Actually, I worked for a company that did the data collection for a lot of Newsweek work. I'll email someone who still works there and see if I can get my hands on what I'd need to do this.

 

[StageLeft]

I can't even laugh, it's simply infuriating, isn't it? These people actually are allowed to vote and carry the same weight as somebody who can spell their own name. It's a darn shame.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: TallBill
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Rainsford
Indeed, but it seems like we're moving from "I don't care" to "dear God, the idiots will destroy us all". Don't get me wrong, I'm a BIG fan of democracy and freedom and equality and all that, but I can't help but think that we'd be better off as a country if, in November 2008, we destroyed the voting cards of that 41% of the population.</end quote></div>
I can't help but think that we'd be better off as a country without the Democrats or Republicans. When you can make fun of 45-55% of the government based on a title, something is wrong.

We should hate individuals, not entire parties. Just my $.02</end quote></div>
Hear, hear. The two-party system is killing America. I'd like to see a dozen parties, or none at all.

I'd like to see individuals who stand for their own beliefs, instead of people who stand for someone else's beliefs, IE parties.

I think we would be better represented by our government (which is supposed to be working FOR us, not against) if we had INDIVIDUALS to vote for, without any sort of party or label. That would FORCE people to think for themselves.

BAN labels, BAN parties.

It's like high school cliques all over again, except higher schoolers were actually nice to each other.

 

[bamacre]

I talked to my friend, they did do the data collection, but she feels uncomfortable sending me what I'd need to run some tabs and get a breakdown of the answer to Q6 via party affiliation. I told her to forget it, not worth her losing her job. That's a big client for the company. She does have to sign confidentiality agreements.

 

[TheSlamma]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
You know whats funny about this poll that wasnt noted? This little gem:

Question 30: Do you consider yourself a Republican, Democrat, or Independent?

25 Republican

35 Democrat

34 Independent

3 No party/Not interested in politics

3 Don't know



Sooooo....the largest pool of pollsters are Dems and Indies? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA who is the stupid ones now?

(I am actually ashamed as Im registered as a Dem, although havent voted as such for 15 years)

hahahahahaha soooooo funny

edit: here's the entire poll: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19375611/site/newsweek/

What a pickle hound, Dems and Indy's were against the invasion of Iraq while Repukes were ALL for it. What that indicates is most if not all 25 Repukes voted yes and the last 16% were of that mixed up pile that includes the don't knows.

 

[senseamp]

WTF. Look at question 5 on that poll.
5. From what you know about the situation, do you think the United States is losing the fight against al-Qaeda or radical Islamic terrorism?

52


Yes

37


No

11


Don?t know/Refused

(the correct answer is in bold)

Isn't it an opinion that we aren't losing? How can there be a correct answer. Talk about bias.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: TheSlamma
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: blackangst1
You know whats funny about this poll that wasnt noted? This little gem:

Question 30: Do you consider yourself a Republican, Democrat, or Independent?

25 Republican

35 Democrat

34 Independent

3 No party/Not interested in politics

3 Don't know



Sooooo....the largest pool of pollsters are Dems and Indies? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA who is the stupid ones now?

(I am actually ashamed as Im registered as a Dem, although havent voted as such for 15 years)

hahahahahaha soooooo funny

edit: here's the entire poll: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19375611/site/newsweek/</end quote></div>
What a pickle hound, Dems and Indy's were against the invasion of Iraq while Repukes were ALL for it. What that indicates is most if not all 25 Repukes voted yes and the last 16% were of that mixed up pile that includes the don't knows.

eh, ok..but still. Far more indies and Dems believe Sadaam had something to do with 9/11...

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: TheSlamma
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: blackangst1
You know whats funny about this poll that wasnt noted? This little gem:

Question 30: Do you consider yourself a Republican, Democrat, or Independent?

25 Republican

35 Democrat

34 Independent

3 No party/Not interested in politics

3 Don't know



Sooooo....the largest pool of pollsters are Dems and Indies? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA who is the stupid ones now?

(I am actually ashamed as Im registered as a Dem, although havent voted as such for 15 years)

hahahahahaha soooooo funny

edit: here's the entire poll: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19375611/site/newsweek/</end quote></div>
What a pickle hound, Dems and Indy's were against the invasion of Iraq while Repukes were ALL for it. What that indicates is most if not all 25 Repukes voted yes and the last 16% were of that mixed up pile that includes the don't knows.</end quote></div>


eh, ok..but still. Far more indies and Dems believe Sadaam had something to do with 9/11...

You can believe what you want, but you can't be sure of anything without further breakdown of the data.

 

[shira]

blackangst1

techs[/i]
Back in late 2003 another poll indicated that two thirds of the people who said they got their news primarily from FoxNews believed Saddam was directly involved in 9-11, while the people who didn't primarily get their news from Fox believed Saddam was not involved by over 75 percent.
So, for those who believe Fox is not a propaganda source, eat that.

I guess you have selective memory loss? Every major poll mirrored this.

Is your point that all major polls indicate that Fox News listeners are among the least informed? Or are you saying that polls of consumers of virtually any news source reveal the same level of ignorance?

My own recollection is that a poll a few years back showed Fox viewers to be singularly ignorant (one question concerned Saddam's involvement in 9/11), as compared with consumers of other news sources. And a recent Pew study seems to back this up:

News knowledge by new source

I'm unable to copy the actual chart into this post. But the chart indicates that when the knowledge levels of consumers of all the major news sources are compared, those for whom Fox News is the major news source score the second lowest (35% "high knowledge," 30% "moderate knowledge," and 35% "low knowledge"), as compared with (for example) the most knowledgeable group, watchers of the Daily Show/Colbert Report (54% "high," 25% "moderate," and 21% "low").

 

[Arkaign]

Fox News is blindingly idiotic, and so are most of their loyal viewers. It's not necessarily a conservative vs liberal thing, though, as Rush/OReilly scored better than CNN/local news, etc.

 

[blackangst1]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: shira
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>blackangst1
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>techs[/i]
Back in late 2003 another poll indicated that two thirds of the people who said they got their news primarily from FoxNews believed Saddam was directly involved in 9-11, while the people who didn't primarily get their news from Fox believed Saddam was not involved by over 75 percent.
So, for those who believe Fox is not a propaganda source, eat that.</end quote></div>

I guess you have selective memory loss? Every major poll mirrored this.</end quote></div>

Is your point that all major polls indicate that Fox News listeners are among the least informed? Or are you saying that polls of consumers of virtually any news source reveal the same level of ignorance?
My own recollection is that a poll a few years back showed Fox viewers to be singularly ignorant (one question concerned Saddam's involvement in 9/11), as compared with consumers of other news sources. And a recent Pew study seems to back this up:

News knowledge by new source

I'm unable to copy the actual chart into this post. But the chart indicates that when the knowledge levels of consumers of all the major news sources are compared, those for whom Fox News is the major news source score the second lowest (35% "high knowledge," 30% "moderate knowledge," and 35% "low knowledge"), as compared with (for example) the most knowledgeable group, watchers of the Daily Show/Colbert Report (54% "high," 25% "moderate," and 21% "low").</end quote></div>

Yes.

edit: Here I'll prove my point:

USA Today/Time-CNN Poll: 70% of Americans believe it

Washington Post


That is hardly a Fox news exclusive.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
Yes.

edit: Here I'll prove my point:

USA Today/Time-CNN Poll: 70% of Americans believe it

Washington Post


That is hardly a Fox news exclusive.

You are totally missing the point. Understand that we're talking about scientific polls, with a statistical sampling of a cross section of people. "People" means all people, not just people who read that paper or watch that program. The USA Today/CNN poll, for example included a mix of Fox watchers, CNN watchers, Washington Post readers, USA Today readers, etc. So did the Washington Post poll and the poll Techs mentions.

All of these polls show a large percentage of Americans believe(d) this myth. This has nothing to do with Techs' point, however. In the poll Techs mentions, the pollsters not only asked what those polled believe, they also asked where the respondents got most of their news. The results showed that those who relied on Fox were more likely to be misinformed than those who got their news elsewhere. That is the point, that Fox viewers were more misinformed than average.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

^^You are quoting polls of the public after nearly TWO years of the Bush Regime plus Faux News saying:

Saddam 9/11 . . . Saddam 9/11 . . . Saddam 9/11

Hell, I think Paris Hilton is unattractive and worthy of no more than two milliseconds of my time and certainly orders of magnitude less important that Darfur, lack of an EPA/FDA/FTC in China, lack of a well-funded FDA in America, and the Messopotamia . . . I could go on and on. Yet watching the national 'news' for more than 5 minutes would likely yield stories about a missing white woman and a white woman that I wish would go missing (Hilton).

Fox News continues to divert their readers and viewers attention away from the war in Iraq with any number of "tabloid-type" stories. On a day when the U.S. military announced 14 U.S. troops had been killed in Iraq, the three lead stories on the Fox News web site were: (1) a story about a 13-year old who had her feet severed on a Kentucky amusement park ride, (2) how the search for the missing Canton, Ohio mother was called off because of thunderstorms, and (3) how sewage spilled out of the toilets on a Continental Airlines flight. Not one mention of the 14 U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq on the front page of the Fox News web site The same treatment of the deaths of the 14 U.S. soldiers was evident on all the Fox News television programs where "tabloid-type" stories took precedence over the death of 14 young Americans in Iraq.

Glassy-eyed and ridiculously overdressed, she giddily (and wrongly) insisted that the Iraq war is not unpopular, that Bush?s poll numbers were down only because of his stance on immigration, that the majority of Americans agree with conservatives on abortion and immigration and that Al Qaeda has been ?wrapped up.?

Faux discussion of grounds for war/Tenet

When you tell the same lies often enough . . . even somewhat intelligent people may have trouble discerning truth from fiction.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: blackangst1
Yes.

edit: Here I'll prove my point:

USA Today/Time-CNN Poll: 70% of Americans believe it

Washington Post


That is hardly a Fox news exclusive.</end quote></div>
You are totally missing the point. Understand that we're talking about scientific polls, with a statistical sampling of a cross section of people. "People" means all people, not just people who read that paper or watch that program. The USA Today/CNN poll, for example included a mix of Fox watchers, CNN watchers, Washington Post readers, USA Today readers, etc. So did the Washington Post poll and the poll Techs mentions.

All of these polls show a large percentage of Americans believe(d) this myth. This has nothing to do with Techs' point, however. In the poll Techs mentions, the pollsters not only asked what those polled believe, they also asked where the respondents got most of their news. The results showed that those who relied on Fox were more likely to be misinformed than those who got their news elsewhere. That is the point, that Fox viewers were more misinformed than average.

I didnt miss the point. I was responding to what I quoted:

Back in late 2003 another poll indicated that two thirds of the people who said they got their news primarily from FoxNews believed Saddam was directly involved in 9-11, while the people who didn't primarily get their news from Fox believed Saddam was not involved by over 75 percent.
So, for those who believe Fox is not a propaganda source, eat that

Also, I was responding to the OP, which wasnt a scientific poll. Sorry if I wasnt clear.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
^^You are quoting polls of the public after nearly TWO years of the Bush Regime plus Faux News saying:

Saddam 9/11 . . . Saddam 9/11 . . . Saddam 9/11

Hell, I think Paris Hilton is unattractive and worthy of no more than two milliseconds of my time and certainly orders of magnitude less important that Darfur, lack of an EPA/FDA/FTC in China, lack of a well-funded FDA in America, and the Messopotamia . . . I could go on and on. Yet watching the national 'news' for more than 5 minutes would likely yield stories about a missing white woman and a white woman that I wish would go missing (Hilton).

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Fox News continues to divert their readers and viewers attention away from the war in Iraq with any number of "tabloid-type" stories. On a day when the U.S. military announced 14 U.S. troops had been killed in Iraq, the three lead stories on the Fox News web site were: (1) a story about a 13-year old who had her feet severed on a Kentucky amusement park ride, (2) how the search for the missing Canton, Ohio mother was called off because of thunderstorms, and (3) how sewage spilled out of the toilets on a Continental Airlines flight. Not one mention of the 14 U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq on the front page of the Fox News web site The same treatment of the deaths of the 14 U.S. soldiers was evident on all the Fox News television programs where "tabloid-type" stories took precedence over the death of 14 young Americans in Iraq.</end quote></div>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Glassy-eyed and ridiculously overdressed, she giddily (and wrongly) insisted that the Iraq war is not unpopular, that Bush?s poll numbers were down only because of his stance on immigration, that the majority of Americans agree with conservatives on abortion and immigration and that Al Qaeda has been ?wrapped up.?</end quote></div>

Faux discussion of grounds for war/Tenet

When you tell the same lies often enough . . . even somewhat intelligent people may have trouble discerning truth from fiction.

Apperantly you dont watch Fox. Besides the news portion, pretty much every talking head has stated they dont believe that. Git yer accusations straight.

And as a side note, I dont think ANY mainstream news source or talking head endorses the "Sadaam/9/11 fallacy"

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
^^You are quoting polls of the public after nearly TWO years of the Bush Regime plus Faux News saying:

Saddam 9/11 . . . Saddam 9/11 . . . Saddam 9/11

Hell, I think Paris Hilton is unattractive and worthy of no more than two milliseconds of my time and certainly orders of magnitude less important that Darfur, lack of an EPA/FDA/FTC in China, lack of a well-funded FDA in America, and the Messopotamia . . . I could go on and on. Yet watching the national 'news' for more than 5 minutes would likely yield stories about a missing white woman and a white woman that I wish would go missing (Hilton).

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Fox News continues to divert their readers and viewers attention away from the war in Iraq with any number of "tabloid-type" stories. On a day when the U.S. military announced 14 U.S. troops had been killed in Iraq, the three lead stories on the Fox News web site were: (1) a story about a 13-year old who had her feet severed on a Kentucky amusement park ride, (2) how the search for the missing Canton, Ohio mother was called off because of thunderstorms, and (3) how sewage spilled out of the toilets on a Continental Airlines flight. Not one mention of the 14 U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq on the front page of the Fox News web site The same treatment of the deaths of the 14 U.S. soldiers was evident on all the Fox News television programs where "tabloid-type" stories took precedence over the death of 14 young Americans in Iraq.</end quote></div>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Glassy-eyed and ridiculously overdressed, she giddily (and wrongly) insisted that the Iraq war is not unpopular, that Bush?s poll numbers were down only because of his stance on immigration, that the majority of Americans agree with conservatives on abortion and immigration and that Al Qaeda has been ?wrapped up.?</end quote></div>

Faux discussion of grounds for war/Tenet

When you tell the same lies often enough . . . even somewhat intelligent people may have trouble discerning truth from fiction.</end quote></div>

Apperantly you dont watch Fox. Besides the news portion, pretty much every talking head has stated they dont believe that. Git yer accusations straight.

And as a side note, I dont think ANY mainstream news source or talking head endorses the "Sadaam/9/11 fallacy"

I for one, don't think Fox News somehow "tricked" their viewers into thinking Saddam was behind 9/11. I think Fox News viewers believed that to begin with, as well as a host of other less than completely true things, and Fox just panders to those pre-existing beliefs. Fox News became popular BECAUSE they "verified" what their viewers already thought...a Fox News that had to actually SHAPE those views wouldn't have been the instant hit with the CNN bashing crowd that it became.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
^^You are quoting polls of the public after nearly TWO years of the Bush Regime plus Faux News saying:

Saddam 9/11 . . . Saddam 9/11 . . . Saddam 9/11

Hell, I think Paris Hilton is unattractive and worthy of no more than two milliseconds of my time and certainly orders of magnitude less important that Darfur, lack of an EPA/FDA/FTC in China, lack of a well-funded FDA in America, and the Messopotamia . . . I could go on and on. Yet watching the national 'news' for more than 5 minutes would likely yield stories about a missing white woman and a white woman that I wish would go missing (Hilton).

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Fox News continues to divert their readers and viewers attention away from the war in Iraq with any number of "tabloid-type" stories. On a day when the U.S. military announced 14 U.S. troops had been killed in Iraq, the three lead stories on the Fox News web site were: (1) a story about a 13-year old who had her feet severed on a Kentucky amusement park ride, (2) how the search for the missing Canton, Ohio mother was called off because of thunderstorms, and (3) how sewage spilled out of the toilets on a Continental Airlines flight. Not one mention of the 14 U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq on the front page of the Fox News web site The same treatment of the deaths of the 14 U.S. soldiers was evident on all the Fox News television programs where "tabloid-type" stories took precedence over the death of 14 young Americans in Iraq.</end quote></div>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Glassy-eyed and ridiculously overdressed, she giddily (and wrongly) insisted that the Iraq war is not unpopular, that Bush?s poll numbers were down only because of his stance on immigration, that the majority of Americans agree with conservatives on abortion and immigration and that Al Qaeda has been ?wrapped up.?</end quote></div>

Faux discussion of grounds for war/Tenet

When you tell the same lies often enough . . . even somewhat intelligent people may have trouble discerning truth from fiction.</end quote></div>

Apperantly you dont watch Fox. Besides the news portion, pretty much every talking head has stated they dont believe that. Git yer accusations straight.

And as a side note, I dont think ANY mainstream news source or talking head endorses the "Sadaam/9/11 fallacy"

There was a study done a long time ago that showed that fox news viewers were much more prone to believe the Saddam/911 fallacy than people who watched other news sources.

Is it because fox news actively promoted it?

Is it because the average fox news viewer is a moron?

Or maybe because fox news used clever innuendo to suggest the link?

I suspect it's a mixture of all 3.

 

[db]

What is that percentage? Something like 28% of any group or population would march off a cliff if their leader told them to.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

here's the poll about news source and misconceptions

Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch PBS are significantly less likely.

An in-depth analysis of a series of polls conducted June through September found 48% incorrectly believed that evidence of links between Iraq and al Qaeda have been found, 22% that weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq, and 25% that world public opinion favored the US going to war with Iraq. Overall 60% had at least one of these three misperceptions.

The level of misperceptions varies according to Americans? political positions. Supporters of President Bush and Republicans are more likely to have misperceptions. However, misperceptions do not appear to only be the result of bias, because a significant number of people who do not have such political positions also have misperceptions.

In sum, if you can read, listen to NPR, or watch PBS . . . you were more likely to be well-informed. The least informed and the most ill-informed were Fox viewers.

 

[blackangst1]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Rainsford
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: blackangst1
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
^^You are quoting polls of the public after nearly TWO years of the Bush Regime plus Faux News saying:

Saddam 9/11 . . . Saddam 9/11 . . . Saddam 9/11

Hell, I think Paris Hilton is unattractive and worthy of no more than two milliseconds of my time and certainly orders of magnitude less important that Darfur, lack of an EPA/FDA/FTC in China, lack of a well-funded FDA in America, and the Messopotamia . . . I could go on and on. Yet watching the national 'news' for more than 5 minutes would likely yield stories about a missing white woman and a white woman that I wish would go missing (Hilton).

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Fox News continues to divert their readers and viewers attention away from the war in Iraq with any number of "tabloid-type" stories. On a day when the U.S. military announced 14 U.S. troops had been killed in Iraq, the three lead stories on the Fox News web site were: (1) a story about a 13-year old who had her feet severed on a Kentucky amusement park ride, (2) how the search for the missing Canton, Ohio mother was called off because of thunderstorms, and (3) how sewage spilled out of the toilets on a Continental Airlines flight. Not one mention of the 14 U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq on the front page of the Fox News web site The same treatment of the deaths of the 14 U.S. soldiers was evident on all the Fox News television programs where "tabloid-type" stories took precedence over the death of 14 young Americans in Iraq.</end quote></div>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Glassy-eyed and ridiculously overdressed, she giddily (and wrongly) insisted that the Iraq war is not unpopular, that Bush?s poll numbers were down only because of his stance on immigration, that the majority of Americans agree with conservatives on abortion and immigration and that Al Qaeda has been ?wrapped up.?</end quote></div>

Faux discussion of grounds for war/Tenet

When you tell the same lies often enough . . . even somewhat intelligent people may have trouble discerning truth from fiction.</end quote></div>

Apperantly you dont watch Fox. Besides the news portion, pretty much every talking head has stated they dont believe that. Git yer accusations straight.

And as a side note, I dont think ANY mainstream news source or talking head endorses the "Sadaam/9/11 fallacy"</end quote></div>

I for one, don't think Fox News somehow "tricked" their viewers into thinking Saddam was behind 9/11. I think Fox News viewers believed that to begin with, as well as a host of other less than completely true things, and Fox just panders to those pre-existing beliefs. Fox News became popular BECAUSE they "verified" what their viewers already thought...a Fox News that had to actually SHAPE those views wouldn't have been the instant hit with the CNN bashing crowd that it became.</end quote></div>

Not to mention the rest who apperantly think so. Mostly Dems and Indies, but anyway...sorry to refer back to the OP.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
here's the poll about news source and misconceptions

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch PBS are significantly less likely.

An in-depth analysis of a series of polls conducted June through September found 48% incorrectly believed that evidence of links between Iraq and al Qaeda have been found, 22% that weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq, and 25% that world public opinion favored the US going to war with Iraq. Overall 60% had at least one of these three misperceptions.</end quote></div>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>The level of misperceptions varies according to Americans? political positions. Supporters of President Bush and Republicans are more likely to have misperceptions. However, misperceptions do not appear to only be the result of bias, because a significant number of people who do not have such political positions also have misperceptions.</end quote></div>

In sum, if you can read, listen to NPR, or watch PBS . . . you were more likely to be well-informed. The least informed and the most ill-informed were Fox viewers.

I guess what poll you read forms an opinion eh?

From The Washington Post June of 04

A few highlights:

*Republicans have come to distrust the media in greater numbers since President Bush took office, says a new poll released yesterday, while Democratic views are mostly unchanged.

*Only about half as many Republicans as Democrats find the usual media suspects credible, says the Pew Research Center, including the New York Times, Newsweek, Time, U.S. News & World Report, CBS, ABC, NBC, National Public Radio and PBS's "NewsHour with Jim Lehrer."

*In a finding that surprised Andrew Kohut, the Pew center's director, 29 percent of Republicans say Fox News Channel is credible, only slightly more than the 26 percent of GOPers who feel that way about CNN. Among Democrats, though, 45 percent give CNN a thumbs up for credibility, compared with 24 percent (of Democrats) for Fox News Channel.

I guess Democrats are just as un-informed and blind eh? The entire article breaks down all the major news sources, and although a few examples are clearly partisan, Dems and GOP are pretty much the same.

But of course YMMV depending on the poll you find to support your opinion

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Phokus
From newsweek, ripped from the SA forums. THere are a number of surprising survey results, but this one jumps out the most:

http://forums.somethingawful.c...d.php?threadid=2535463

6. Do you think Saddam Hussein?s regime in Iraq was directly involved i planning, financing, or carrying out the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001?

Yes 41

No 50

Don't Know 9


Fox News [deleted] can't have THIS much of impact on this ignorance, can they? What other explanation could there be that such a staggering number of people still believe this nonsense?

edit: hahahaha W - T - F, 11% think that osama bin laden has been captured. These idiots probably think GWB personally hunted him down and strangled him with his bare hands.

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also its no secret that a mere 100 people is not a true indication of anything...more sensationalizing on your part...huh...Phokus??

 

[highwire]

My guess is that the poll is correct. We have a president that is totally in resonance with AIPAC, a lobbying group for a foreign country, and which in saner times would have to lawfully register as such. This president has made a strong and continuous association between Iraq and 9/11, and flag waving (wrong flag) news sources such as Fox amplify that association. Joe Sixpack is not a scientist. Those associations work just as well with him as would explicit information in forming his opinions. Further, to NOT believe it, would mean that he would have to accept that we dishonorably killed a lot of people for nothing. It is a tough thing for Joe to believe anything other than that his president is honorable and he is not being misled.