Dear selfish, ignorant, moronic jerks who wait til the last minute to merge:

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Raduque

Lifer
Aug 22, 2004
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Dear person behind me riding my ass way to clos...

BRAKE CHECK!


8-10 feet is about half the length of my truck. How far back do you want me to be before you stop considering it "riding my ass"? 40ft, 60? Then you'll just have 2 or 3 small cars, or another large truck merge between us and really ride your ass.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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If folks didn't want me to zip up the right lane, they wouldn't have left it wide open for me. People just like me and do nice things like that for me.
 

Lifted

Diamond Member
Nov 30, 2004
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8-10 feet is about half the length of my truck. How far back do you want me to be before you stop considering it "riding my ass"? 40ft, 60? Then you'll just have 2 or 3 small cars, or another large truck merge between us and really ride your ass.

At 75mph your traveling 110' per second. If the person in front of you were to slam on their brakes for whatever reason, in a passenger car, which is most likely stopping in a shorter distance than your truck, would you be able to avoid hitting them if you're initially 8 feet behind?

I think it's accepted that the distance between cars for safe travel is 2 - 3 car lengths for every 10 mph, in good conditions. I say accepted as police will use this when writing tickets, not that this is the only acceptable distance that is safe.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
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At 75mph your traveling 110' per second. If the person in front of you were to slam on their brakes for whatever reason, in a passenger car, which is most likely stopping in a shorter distance than your truck, would you be able to avoid hitting them if you're initially 8 feet behind?

I think it's accepted that the distance between cars for safe travel is 2 - 3 car lengths for every 10 mph, in good conditions. I say accepted as police will use this when writing tickets, not that this is the only acceptable distance that is safe.

I am talking about an off ramp, so people are nearly bumper to bumper. The morons flying in go from 75 to 15 with only inches to spare to their front and making me (and everyone behind me) jam on the brakes.

I'm going to smash one of them one day just to prove a point.
 

WaTaGuMp

Lifer
May 10, 2001
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It seems that most people feel using their turn signal gives them the right of way, I say FUCK YOU, I wish it was legal to kill them.
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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It really irritates me when they do it at intersections and try to race you off the light so they can cut everyone off. Those are turning lanes sir, nor your private go through.

Oh god--this is like standard behavior in Chicago. really fucking irritating. On the flip side, here in Berkeley, no one seems to think that massive double-sized right lane is meant for people to scoot up and turn right. People will just hang out in the middle of that lane, blocking everyone. Or a right-turner will just sit there, perfectly open lane on the right, behind the guy in front of them, and refuse to turn right until the light is green and the person in front of them goes.

I find this far more irritating than the punks that try to beat you off the line from the pseudo right lane.

people like to turn right from the left lane here--no fucking signal, naturally. And you want to know why it's horrible here? This, exactly, represents every 3rd driver on our streets:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKcSZfY1sf4

To-a-fucking-T.
 

Doppel

Lifer
Feb 5, 2011
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Even funnier is that they think they'll get to work faster by driving like a maniac. You're going to probably get there at the same rate as everyone else. Assholes fly past me in the morning, but I always catch up with them at the same lights.
Not always. Believe me, the way I drive has brought me through many an orange light and that moment I go through it and you're behind me I realize it was all worth it.

I am a last-minute merger. I guess the way I see it is if you're waiting in a huge line of single cars you aren't in much of a hurry.
So a semi comes rumbling down the left side, and a guy in a corvette did what we all just sort of dream of doing: He pulled out into the left lane to block it. He was only 10 cars or so behind me; I could clearly see the whole thing. And he sat out there in the left lane, keeping pace with the traffic on the right until he hit the merge point.

I would have bought him a beer on the spot if I could have.
Even though I am a late merger, that is awesome.

Honestly, most of you people are merging way too damn early and it's a waste of time. I refuse to be caught up in a massively long single lane traffic jam just because you're scared to death of merging later on, so you do it super, super, super duper early just so that there's no stress later on actually driving your car like somebody not horrified at the experience.

I'm not always a late merger and don't go out of my way to do it, but yeah if the lineup is so long it's actually going to cost me lights that I could otherwise make and merge after them you better believe I'm doing it.
 

alzan

Diamond Member
May 21, 2003
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I see that a lot driving up to the cottage and around the GTA. What I don't get is, I know that one of the major contributors to the stop/go traffic in merge areas like that is the people that cant get in and stop at the end of the merge lane, so in an effort to alleviate that I ALWAYS leave a gap infront of me as I drive alongside a merge lane. Literally 3 or 4 car lengths, and yet 90% of the vehicles that pass by completely ignore it, drive to the very end of the merging lane and either try to force their way into a spot or come to a complete stop. I can be one car back from the end of the merge lane, and people will STILL pass that gap and try to get ahead of the one car ahead of me, which has not provided any gap.

I'll pretty much let anyone in any time for the greater good of not stopping a lane, but I get a bit pissed when people pass by my spot, form a line at the end of the merge lane and then end up causing the traffic lane to stop.

Ah well, the good news is that since we are in the early season of cottaging up here in Canada, the only people travelling up north are long time owners, so everyone knows how to drive and pass and not drive in the left lane.

I do the same thing as far as car lengths between myself and next driver ahead; and I've been bit almost every time by allowing that last driver in; even after starting to close the gap myself. It's a mental battle betwixt the merger and me; I could say I put up a valiant battle every time but lost the battle to the asshole because he/she cheated, but really I blink first.

I then massage my temporarily bruised ego by repeating, "Defensive driving saves lives."
 

alzan

Diamond Member
May 21, 2003
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This is one of the few things I enjoy doing while driving and in either congested traffic (i.e. ain't going to be getting through very fast) or when you have lanes decreasing...

I especially enjoy it when it is a punk ass kid who is doing it thinking they are sly...

I usually will cock block them when they try to get around me...because all they are going to accomplish is moving up past me and going no further...so screw them...

mind you...if I am in the open road and I am at that moment in someone's way...I always move over and let whom ever proceed...same goes with someone who unintentionally needs to merge...

The one's who think they are hot shit I LOVE blocking them...my favorite is in construction zones...right when you are coming up on a lane closure and 99.999% of the people respect the signs and merge to the left or right and slow down...there is always that 0.001% who fly up an extra 1/4 mile so they can 'merge'...it seems like the sensible people act in unison and allow NO space for those people...

Almost like a collective FUCK YOU.

Right on. It doesn't happen often enough for me but it's beautiful when it does...kinda like vehicular ballet.
 

RampantAndroid

Diamond Member
Jun 27, 2004
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Can I start a thread entitled "dear morons who block me from merging at a reasonable time, forcing me to go to the last possible moment to shove myself in"

When people are merging, they put on a turn signal. Sitting there going "I'm not letting you in!" just makes things worse.
 

PowerEngineer

Diamond Member
Oct 22, 2001
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When people are merging, they put on a turn signal. Sitting there going "I'm not letting you in!" just makes things worse.

First, let me acknowledge that there are many situations (e.g. lanes closed by accidents) where you're unexpectedly forced to merge into another lane. I have no problem making room to allow those stranded cars to weave into the clear lane. But...

What really annoys me are drivers who don't think far enough ahead to take advantage of early opportunities to move into the lane they'll soon need to be in. Instead, they mindlessly continue in the wrong lane until they're nearly on top of the left turn or freeway exit they want. And then they flip on their turn signals as if they are Moses and the rest of the traffic must part for them like the Red Sea!

 

xanis

Lifer
Sep 11, 2005
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Can I start a thread entitled "dear morons who block me from merging at a reasonable time, forcing me to go to the last possible moment to shove myself in"

When people are merging, they put on a turn signal. Sitting there going "I'm not letting you in!" just makes things worse.

This happens to me almost every single day. Two-lanes, plenty of room for the car in the right to change to the left lane to let people merge... and they don't. If you do this, DIAF.
 
Oct 20, 2005
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It's pretty simple.

When it's two lanes merging into one, and it's slow/bumper to bumper traffic...utilize the entire lanes and merge at the point where the two lanes become one. Use the "zipper" method. This is optimal since it maximizes lane space/usage. There is no point in merging early and creating even more backed up traffic in one lane only. (anyone arguing otherwise is a complete retard)

When it's two lanes merging into one and there is light traffic, merge when it's safe to do so.

When you're on an on-ramp that is also an "exit only" off-ramp lane, merge as soon as possible, and when it is safe to do so. There's no reason to wait till the last second to cut someone off since you could be blocking others behind you who are trying to exit.
 

Lithium381

Lifer
May 12, 2001
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It's pretty simple.

When it's two lanes merging into one, and it's slow/bumper to bumper traffic...utilize the entire lanes and merge at the point where the two lanes become one. Use the "zipper" method. This is optimal since it maximizes lane space/usage. There is no point in merging early and creating even more backed up traffic in one lane only. (anyone arguing otherwise is a complete retard)

When it's two lanes merging into one and there is light traffic, merge when it's safe to do so.

When you're on an on-ramp that is also an "exit only" off-ramp lane, merge as soon as possible, and when it is safe to do so. There's no reason to wait till the last second to cut someone off since you could be blocking others behind you who are trying to exit.

it all makes sense in theory, but then there are people who don't understand that this would speed things up for EVERYONE and just fksk up the rotation
 

Lithium381

Lifer
May 12, 2001
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You then have 2 full lanes trying to merge one car at a time per side at the merge point.

That is only going to work in theory, imo.

In reality, it would be the slowest method. People do not want to wait even 2 seconds for another car to go first.

what it does is allows for an albiet slower average speed, it's gives an average predicatble speed in which to merge, instead of someone forcing their way over, causing that lane to stop completely which sends a brake ripple back.

I can go my full 20 mile commute in rush hour traffic without stopping once, i don't ride bumpers, i go a steady 15-25mph the whole way leaving plenty of room in front to facilitate.
 

RampantAndroid

Diamond Member
Jun 27, 2004
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First, let me acknowledge that there are many situations (e.g. lanes closed by accidents) where you're unexpectedly forced to merge into another lane. I have no problem making room to allow those stranded cars to weave into the clear lane. But...

What really annoys me are drivers who don't think far enough ahead to take advantage of early opportunities to move into the lane they'll soon need to be in. Instead, they mindlessly continue in the wrong lane until they're nearly on top of the left turn or freeway exit they want. And then they flip on their turn signals as if they are Moses and the rest of the traffic must part for them like the Red Sea!


Drive on WA-520 going westbound into Seattle. The HOV lane is restricted to 3 people or more (rather than two) and the HOV lane ends before the bridge over lake Washington, and there is a merge. As buses merge into the non-HOV lane, as well as other cars. Almost always, people block you from getting over, I've found. You just have to find a hole and shove yourself into it. It's stupid, and I wish people would actually realize there's an unavoidable merge there.
 

440sixpack

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May 30, 2000
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About two years ago a guy did something I never would have had the balls to do.

Everyone was dutifully in the right lane; the merge signs had been posted for a long time. The right lane was moving quite slowly, and sure enough: every so often a beautiful being would speed by on the left side. This was slowing things down even more, as we all had to wait for them to force themselves in.

So a semi comes rumbling down the left side, and a guy in a corvette did what we all just sort of dream of doing: He pulled out into the left lane to block it. He was only 10 cars or so behind me; I could clearly see the whole thing. And he sat out there in the left lane, keeping pace with the traffic on the right until he hit the merge point.

I would have bought him a beer on the spot if I could have.

I've seen that exact same scenario, but reversed, where it was the semi taking up both lanes to stop traffic cutting around.
 
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