Dear Snickers:

[eits]

Cocoa butter vs vegetable oil. Even Mars publicly resisted the move when other companies began doing it, saying it "wasn't real chocolate".

and hershey's

 

[SagaLore]

The normal size snickers bar is still pretty good. But yea, the bite size / party size ones seem to lack quality. I find that the peanuts often have a burnt taste, like they came from the bin of rejected roasted peanuts.

 

[TheTony]

and hershey's

Not unless they've relented - they were one of the makers planning to switch to vegetable oil instead. Mars spoke out against the move.

 

[ViperXX]

Mars bars pwns snickers.

 

[jtvang125]

Use to get a snickers bar every now and then from the vending machine but ever since they increased them to $.95 I stopped.

 

[sactoking]

To me it's not so much a taste as it is a texture. I think cocoa butter has a richer, creamier texture to it than the vegetable oil variants.

That's because cocoa butter is a complex fat with multiple melting points. That's what gives it that certain "mouth feel".

They technically can't even call it milk chocolate. As a result, they call it "chocolate candy".

If you want to get technical, a chocolate product with the cocoa butter removed and hydrogenated oil added can't be referred to as any type of chocolate. Calling it "chocolate candy" is acceptable because in that usage "candy" is the noun and "chocolate" is the adjective. An oil-based product cannot use "chocolate" in the nounitive form. "Milk chocolate" on the other hand is a specific type of chocolate denoting a addition of milk or powdered milk solids. Milk chocolate therefore is a subset of chocolate (using the nounitive form) and subject to the same usage rules.

BTW- Hershey's chocolate found in the original Hershey Bar, Kisses, Reese's PB Cups, etc. is still "chocolate" by definition and thus must be made with coca butter and not hydrogenated oil. Only some of their less popular products (Milk Duds, things with a candy coating, etc) are now using oil and thus "chocolate candy".

 

[techs]

It should not only be illegal to replace cocoa butter with vegetable oil, it's one of the few crimes that deserve capital punishment.

 

[shortylickens]

So fucking good most of you bitches cant even handle it.

 

[sandorski]

What the hell happened to you? You used to be delicious; your nut-nougat-caramel filling cloaked in delicious milk chocolate.

Now, you're barely recognizable, your peanuts are sometimes mushy, the nougat tasteless. Worst of all, the brown substance you wear as a coat only marginally resembles chocolate; it's so artificial that washing it down with diet pepsi (blech!) is an improvement.

Cliffs: I just had a Snickers out of my kid's halloween candy. They're fucking terrible now.

Made a similar post about Reese Peanut Butter Cups a couple weeks back. They've gone to shit. I'm tempted to just buy Toblerone for Milk Chocolate fixes from now on. It costs a lot more, but at least it tastes good and likely won't be cheaped out any time soon.

Accountants make lousy Cooks.

 

[DrPizza]

It should not only be illegal to replace cocoa butter with vegetable oil, it's one of the few crimes that deserve capital punishment.

Actually, it is illegal, if you call it "milk chocolate." I'm absolutely amazed, flabbergasted, astonished that the FDA or USDA or whoever it is said "no" to Hershey's when they begged that chocolate flavored candy made with vegetable oil be allowed to be called "milk chocolate."

 

[sandorski]

I'm curious, is Cocoa Butter replacement due to Cost, Legislation, or other factor?

 

[lxskllr]

Made a similar post about Reese Peanut Butter Cups a couple weeks back. They've gone to shit. I'm tempted to just buy Toblerone for Milk Chocolate fixes from now on. It costs a lot more, but at least it tastes good and likely won't be cheaped out any time soon.

Accountants make lousy Cooks.

What pisses me off, is that crap is totally unnecessary. Raise the damned price by by 2¢ to make up the difference if you're losing money. I doubt anyone really cares that much. Same thing with the incredible shrinking packages. Only idiots are fooled by that tactic. Rise the price. I want my coffee in 1# cans like it's supposed to be. It's not like I'm quitting after buying a can or anything, and I'm not fooled by the size games :^S

 

[TheTony]

BTW- Hershey's chocolate found in the original Hershey Bar, Kisses, Reese's PB Cups, etc. is still "chocolate" by definition and thus must be made with coca butter and not hydrogenated oil. Only some of their less popular products (Milk Duds, things with a candy coating, etc) are now using oil and thus "chocolate candy".

Very true about the naming technicality.

However, Hershey's change did impact some bars, such as Almond Joy. They did back off when customers complained about the change, though.

I'm curious, is Cocoa Butter replacement due to Cost, Legislation, or other factor?

Cost. They figured the change would be less noticeable than increasing their price, perhaps incorrectly.

Actually, it is illegal, if you call it "milk chocolate." I'm absolutely amazed, flabbergasted, astonished that the FDA or USDA or whoever it is said "no" to Hershey's when they begged that chocolate flavored candy made with vegetable oil be allowed to be called "milk chocolate."

It was the FDA. The chocolate lobby was among several food industry groups looking to have changes made to food standard definitions. The public comment on the petition, notably the chocolate section, was sufficient for the FDA to reject it.

 

[caddlad]

Heathbar dominates all.

 

[shortylickens]

Heathbar dominates all.

Not as good as a Skor.

 

[bruceb]

Around here, a candy bar in a vending machine runs from $1.00 to $1.50 .. I won't buy it at $1.50 .. $1.25 max

 

[meltdown75]

Big Turk FTW

 

[0roo0roo]

i find the shrink ray more upsetting.
but no ones had the hind sight to keep old snickers so we can do side by side photo comparisons to show just how bad its got

 

[sandorski]

Big Turk FTW

Liked them as a kid, not so much anymore. Wunderbar(Vooondabaaar!!!!), Crispy Crunch, Crunchie, and Oh Henry were and still are great. Always got Eatmore when I had a chance as their availability was spotty. When I was really young(earlier than I remember), Bar Six was what I always asked for. Haven't seen one of those in over a decade now, but they were similar to a combo of Kit Kat and Coffee Crisp.

 

[meltdown75]

Liked them as a kid, not so much anymore. Wunderbar(Vooondabaaar!!!!), Crispy Crunch, Crunchie, and Oh Henry were and still are great. Always got Eatmore when I had a chance as their availability was spotty. When I was really young(earlier than I remember), Bar Six was what I always asked for. Haven't seen one of those in over a decade now, but they were similar to a combo of Kit Kat and Coffee Crisp.

i was actually just trolling. big turks gross me out. wunderbars were my fav as a kid. kit kats, twix, oh henry, coffee crisp... all classics. once in a while i would even get the mcintosh toffee.

 

[ebaycj]

Those things are F'n delicious. That's probably the best composite type candy bar made.

Also, Reeses Crispy Crunchy. Similar to nutrageous, but with less peanuts and more butterfinger-style crispys.

 

[Eli]

LMFAO!

I have to admit, this thread has a lot of 10/10 rants in it.

 

[KingGheedora]

I too have noticed the mushy peanuts. It's gross.

 

[KingGheedora]

Also, in the summer time the bodega (corner store) near me had their AC break or something. ALL their candy bars in the front of the store melted. You could tell they were all melted just by looking at the deformed bags.

 

[eits]

I'm curious, is Cocoa Butter replacement due to Cost, Legislation, or other factor?

corn.

yet again, more shit made shittier thanks to corn.