Death of American malls

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Zebo

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You are confusing diversity with culture. Those are two very different things.

I'm not confusing anything. US has culture from more places than any other country thus has more culture. It's like Germany may have German culture but we got that too plus Vietnamese English etc etc etc who brought it here and our own indigenous varieties e.g "southern culture" "Hollywood culture". No city on earth can compare to what you can culturally do, eat, museums like NYC. I could spend a lifetime just visiting shows, restaurants, and museums in NYC. One city. Never would need to leave before I could visit them all.
 
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Orignal Earl

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I'm not confusing anything. US has culture from more places than any other country thus has more culture. It's like Germany may have German culture but we got that too plus Vietnamese English etc etc etc who brought it here and our own indigenous varieties e.g "southern culture" "Hollywood culture". No city on earth can compare to what you can culturally do, eat, museums like NYC. I could spend a lifetime just visiting shows, restaurants, and museums in NYC. One city. Never would need to leave before I could visit them all.

Did you miss my post or just not interested in facts?
 

Zebo

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Your link is speaking to diversity not culture. Some of those countries, especially in Africa, have no history until it was written for them 150-200 year ago. Culture is not diversity. It's depth and breath of cultural markers. Culture can be additive with diverse cultures but diversity does not imply culture. Can i get thai food in chad or see the rockets? Nah. Even though it signals more diverse than US, it has a dearth of culture.
 
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Vic

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Best Buy and Frys are not going to price match with an online source. They do price match items that are being sold at other B&M stores in the area.
Frys will price match Amazon, but only if Amazon is the actual seller.
 

Zebo

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Maybe in flyover country. Here in Silicon Valley, every single mall is constantly jam packed with people buying shit. I avoid them as much as I can but my kids like to go to the Lego store to build shit.

OFC it's gonna depend on area. I know in the OC malls and beach boardwalks are packed with a median income over 100K. They'll be last to fall.

And yeah once I hit about 30 I just put blinders on hit stores I want and generally haul ass. hate shopping. It was fun as a kid though like your kids are having.
 
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MagnusTheBrewer

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I've always hated malls. Even as a teenager and malls were just appearing, I thought they were over priced wastes of time. Maybe because I had very little disposable income and was never attracted to other kids who had nothing better to do than hang out at a mall. In any case, they can't disappear soon enough.
 

LegendKiller

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Most indoor malls have been dying for over a decade. I know the original indoor mall here in Minneapolis(Southdale) is looking like a ghost town as well. Lots of vacancies.

I think our shopping patterns are changing. As well online retailers are hurting them. And with consoles there teens may be staying home more than hanging out at the mall.

Southdale is pretty bad. Ridgedale isn't great either, Rosedale seems fine and Maplewood also. All of them got crushed by MOA but they are trying to get it back by going mixed-use with better restaurants (Southdale + Cheesecake Factory) or Eden Prairie (steak and italian places) and better movie theaters (rosedale).
 

Orignal Earl

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I'm not confusing anything. US has culture from more places than any other country thus has more culture. It's like Germany may have German culture but we got that too plus Vietnamese English etc etc etc who brought it here and our own indigenous varieties e.g "southern culture" "Hollywood culture". No city on earth can compare to what you can culturally do, eat, museums like NYC. I could spend a lifetime just visiting shows, restaurants, and museums in NYC. One city. Never would need to leave before I could visit them all.

The map shows that Canada consists of people from more different countries then the US.
Does it not?
You can walk through Regina, Vancouver, TO etc and eat at a thousand different countries restaurants
What am I missing here
 
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Generator

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Like all bad ideas white people come up with, they soon abandon them. I wouldn't say the malls are going away, but lets be honest its just another bit of gluttony. Maybe if this was Iraq and we could all fill up our Toyotas by swiping a pail for some crude these malls would never fail. When the whites abandoned the cities in the 70s and built their refuges, for some reason they built the mall another 30 miles further from where they put their homes...

Anyways had to get the car repaired and had 2 hours to burn. Forced with a decision to hang in the nearby Walmart for 2 hours or just started walking the city, I walked. On my way back I managed to hit the mall just as it happened to open. It was a nice day and was hoping to get a drink of water. They turned the fountain off or it wasn't working. The foodcourt might as well had tumbleweeds going through it. Some shops opening, but many spot aren't being rented out anymore. The only thing alive in malls these days is the march of old white people, exercising the grim reaper away for one more day.
 

irishScott

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Ah malls, the places where I can't walk from one store to another without fending off at least 4 kiosk venders trying to sell me bullshit I would never be interested in; and always that one gay guy who hard-sells cologne to every man who walks past. Seriously, he followed me nearly 50 feet once as I turned him down multiple times, and then I saw him do it to the next guy who came by. WTF?

As for mall "culture", I'm 26 and there were two main social groups that hung out at malls: Dumbass girls and girls on shopping sprees with friends/boyfriends. There was never a mall "scene" for me. I suppose it was fun visiting Santa there as a kid, and playing on some of the rides, but that was about it.

If my friends and I want to see a movie, there's a better theater in a shopping center nearby with better food all of 300 feet away.
 

Zebo

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They didnt have those stupid kiosks in my day. Or at least when hung out at malls pre to mid teens. Trust me was the place to go in 70s and 80s and we lived 3 miles from a beach. Had everything arcades, movies, food so everyone just hung out there. We were latchkey kids so hung out more than most. Times have changed though as you note.
 

boomerang

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Like all bad ideas white people come up with, they soon abandon them. I wouldn't say the malls are going away, but lets be honest its just another bit of gluttony. Maybe if this was Iraq and we could all fill up our Toyotas by swiping a pail for some crude these malls would never fail. When the whites abandoned the cities in the 70s and built their refuges, for some reason they built the mall another 30 miles further from where they put their homes...
Ask me why I didn't read your second paragraph.
 
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Orignal Earl

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I'd venture a guess that he doesn't give a shit about what you have to say. You've been pulling on his pant leg repeatedly and you've gotten no reaction. The message seems clear.

I don't think Zebo is a fanatic like you though.
I could be wrong, but I still have hope
 

rudder

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When the last mall is gone... where will I go to buy my $50 polo and $140 Nike shoes?
 

master_shake_

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i don't know about american malls but where i live the mall goes: clothing store, clothing store, clothing store, jewelry store, clothing store, clothing store, eb games, then clothing clothing clothing clothing, food court.

i wonder why malls are dying.
 

hal2kilo

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The map shows that Canada consists of people from more different countries then the US.
Does it not?
You can walk through Regina, Vancouver, TO etc and eat at a thousand different countries restaurants
What am I missing here

Vancover B.C. is one of the most comopolitan cities in North America. I's pretty amazing. Beuatiful women from all over the world.
 

Zorba

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I personally like going to the mall from time to time, just because I like being around other people. I really enjoy it before xmas.

I really don't get why there is stuff a huge push for "outdoor malls" they take up more land. In the winter you freeze walking store to store, in the summer you sweat like crazy. They are nice if you are going for one specific thing, but otherwise I'd much whether go to a real mall.

I do think mall's hurt themselves by pricing arcades and rides out of the malls. I used to love doing the rides at the mall. But now they just have endless kiosks of crap.

At least around here there have been no malls built since the 80s, so a lot of the old ones are now in bad parts of town and can't keep enough retailers to keep the place open.
 

JManInPhoenix

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i don't know about american malls but where i live the mall goes: clothing store, clothing store, clothing store, jewelry store, clothing store, clothing store, eb games, then clothing clothing clothing clothing, food court.

i wonder why malls are dying.


Pretty much the same in the US. As late as 2000, I could go into a mall and check out the music store, book store, computer store, etc. Now just shoe/clothing & jewelry stores - nothing of interest to me at all anymore.
 

squarecut1

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On another note, I always see there are a lot more women than men at Barnes and Noble. Same at the libraries. Are women more intellectually minded in America now?
 

ralfy

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Likely connected to weak consumer spending and wages barely rising. And some are warning of a second financial crisis.
 

SMOGZINN

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Still don't understand how malls were even an efficient way of buying anything. If i gotta go to radioshack or something, I don't wanna park half mile away and then spend 30 minutes trying to figure out where the freaking place is. It's just terribly inefficient.

The reason malls were efficient was because you know that what you wanted would be there. In a time before internet it was not so easy to find stuff. If you wanted a Radio Shack you had to look it up in your yellow pages, call them and talk to a clerk to see if they are actually there, and have the item you want, then pull out a paper map and find out where it is located and how to get there. Or, you could simply drive to your local mall. If there was not a Radio Shack there would be something else like it.
 
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