Originally posted by: Aimster
Posting facts is defending Iran or are you all a bunch of hillbilly paranoid religious nutcases
Originally posted by: gentobu
Originally posted by: Aimster
Posting facts is defending Iran or are you all a bunch of hillbilly paranoid religious nutcases
You did not post facts. Where is your link? Where are the pictures? How do you know they were sold to Syria and Lebanon?
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: gentobu
Originally posted by: Aimster
Posting facts is defending Iran or are you all a bunch of hillbilly paranoid religious nutcases
You did not post facts. Where is your link? Where are the pictures? How do you know they were sold to Syria and Lebanon?
I wasn't talking to you when I made that quote.
I was talking about a previous incident to Nebor which he remembers
Learn to read. I am not your reading comprehension professor
Originally posted by: gentobu
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: gentobu
Originally posted by: Aimster
Posting facts is defending Iran or are you all a bunch of hillbilly paranoid religious nutcases
You did not post facts. Where is your link? Where are the pictures? How do you know they were sold to Syria and Lebanon?
I wasn't talking to you when I made that quote.
I was talking about a previous incident to Nebor which he remembers
Learn to read. I am not your reading comprehension professor
LOL. You can't provide proof then can you. :laugh:
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: amddude
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
Any proof we ever post, Aimster deems as not good enough. The Austrian .50 caliber sniper rifles that were sold to Iran under the condition they not export them were handed over to insurgents in Iraq and found, serial numbers matched to those sold to the Iranians.
Advanced IEDs with armor penetrators that only the Iranians have the capabilities to make, and with parts that were traced via serial numbers back to Iran.
None of that matters. Aimster will say that those weapons came through Lebanon or Syria, so Iran has no culpability. Sorry Aimster, Lebanon and Syria have already gotten their ass kicked for supporting terrorism against Israel and the United States. Iran is next. To make an analogy appropriate for this board, if you're getting sprayed with bullets from a heavy weapons guy, you can shoot him all you want but he's not going down until you take out of that medic hiding behind him.
Those rifles were cloned and sold to Syria and Lebanon.
I already pointed out that the Telegraph article was wrong and yet you still post it?
Why the hell would I bother reading the rest of your b.s post?
Those are pretty nice rifles. I doubt Iran just up and cloned them. There have been photos of iranian explosive devices and rpg's all over the internet, found in Iraq. You are in denial.
They have been cloned.
Pictures of the clones have been out months before the so-called article that was posted on the Telegraph
which proves a) Telegraph got the delivery date wrong b) telegraph forgot to mention clones.
Iran is another China. They copy everything
I posted pictures of the clones to Nebor. He admitted Telegraph was probably wrong.. fast forward months later he posts the same B.S again
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: amddude
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Nebor
Any proof we ever post, Aimster deems as not good enough. The Austrian .50 caliber sniper rifles that were sold to Iran under the condition they not export them were handed over to insurgents in Iraq and found, serial numbers matched to those sold to the Iranians.
Advanced IEDs with armor penetrators that only the Iranians have the capabilities to make, and with parts that were traced via serial numbers back to Iran.
None of that matters. Aimster will say that those weapons came through Lebanon or Syria, so Iran has no culpability. Sorry Aimster, Lebanon and Syria have already gotten their ass kicked for supporting terrorism against Israel and the United States. Iran is next. To make an analogy appropriate for this board, if you're getting sprayed with bullets from a heavy weapons guy, you can shoot him all you want but he's not going down until you take out of that medic hiding behind him.
Those rifles were cloned and sold to Syria and Lebanon.
I already pointed out that the Telegraph article was wrong and yet you still post it?
Why the hell would I bother reading the rest of your b.s post?
Those are pretty nice rifles. I doubt Iran just up and cloned them. There have been photos of iranian explosive devices and rpg's all over the internet, found in Iraq. You are in denial.
They have been cloned.
Pictures of the clones have been out months before the so-called article that was posted on the Telegraph
which proves a) Telegraph got the delivery date wrong b) telegraph forgot to mention clones.
Iran is another China. They copy everything
I posted pictures of the clones to Nebor. He admitted Telegraph was probably wrong.. fast forward months later he posts the same B.S again
I remember that argument, and I remember saying that the Iranians don't have the technology, materials, expertise or intelligence to make a precision weapon like the Steyr .50 BMG (but they CAN and ARE making nuclear bombs.) It's not an easily cloned weapon. We're not talking about AK style weapons, made of stamped sheet metal, we're talking about precision long range interdiction rifles. Having seen some Iranian clones of semi-auto pistols on the past, I think that anyone with any weapons expertise would spot a "fake" .50 BMG rifle in about 20 seconds. Difference between a Ferrari and a Yugo.
Originally posted by: Aimster
"Franz Holzschuh, Steyr?s chief executive, said the company had not officially been contacted by anyone to verify the serial numbers on the rifles found in Iraq.
He said there was a possibility that the weapons, which sell for £10,000 each, were reproductions and that there were ?thousands? of these in circulation. "
'yawn'
Originally posted by: gentobu
Originally posted by: Aimster
"Franz Holzschuh, Steyr?s chief executive, said the company had not officially been contacted by anyone to verify the serial numbers on the rifles found in Iraq.
He said there was a possibility that the weapons, which sell for £10,000 each, were reproductions and that there were ?thousands? of these in circulation. "
'yawn'
That CEO is no more credible than a 4 star general.
'yawn'
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: gentobu
Originally posted by: Aimster
"Franz Holzschuh, Steyr?s chief executive, said the company had not officially been contacted by anyone to verify the serial numbers on the rifles found in Iraq.
He said there was a possibility that the weapons, which sell for £10,000 each, were reproductions and that there were ?thousands? of these in circulation. "
'yawn'
That CEO is no more credible than a 4 star general.
'yawn'
So a 4 star general matched the numbers of the gun to the company's records behind the CEO's back? Must be some crappy company.
You're not a bright person, but it's oK. Where you live you must fit in nicely.
By the way the Telegraph didn't list the source of the information..nice one
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: gentobu
Originally posted by: Aimster
"Franz Holzschuh, Steyr?s chief executive, said the company had not officially been contacted by anyone to verify the serial numbers on the rifles found in Iraq.
He said there was a possibility that the weapons, which sell for £10,000 each, were reproductions and that there were ?thousands? of these in circulation. "
'yawn'
That CEO is no more credible than a 4 star general.
'yawn'
So a 4 star general matched the numbers of the gun to the company's records behind the CEO's back? Must be some crappy company.
You're not a bright person, but it's oK. Where you live you must fit in nicely.
By the way the Telegraph didn't list the source of the information..nice one
More than just the company has those serial numbers. There was a huge stink when Steyr first proposed to sell to Iran, and eventually an international deal was brokered. That's like saying that unless Smith and Wesson releases serial numbers, guns can't be traced back in the United States. Nevermind all of the paperwork attached to each gun.