Debate: Bush Won by a landslide according to vote.com !!!

[jacobnero6918]

82,531 votes:

64,631 for Bush 78%
17,900 for Gore 22%




LINK To RESULTS


Bush is leading in the ABC NEWS poll as well:

76,773 votes

Bush 58.8%
Gore 41.1%

Time: 4:54 PM wednesday
ABC website

 

[dl]

I wouldn't say a landslide, but yes, in imho bush won my respect this round

 

[jacobnero6918]

Bush mixed up his words once that I saw, but speaking well on TV isn't really what being President is all about. His father George Bush Sr didn't speak well but he sure kick saddams ass out of Kuwait. Being President is about making decision and I think Dubya is up to the task.

 

[DABANSHEE]

Yes but Saddam's still here.

BTW, did you know that the Trade embargo against Iraq reduces the world oil supply by more barrels a day that OPEC little throttling of the taps does.

 

[AndrewR]

Ok, once and for all -- the UN mandate was not to remove Saddam from power in Iraq. If we had pressed on with the campaign and deposed Saddam, we would have lost thousands of troops "nation building" in the vacuum of power that resulted. Ever hear of Vietnam? Also, the consensus that existed for the liberation of Kuwait would not have existed for the ousting of Saddam. Further, a weakened Iraq would have looked mightily enticing to Iran, thereby causing an even larger problem in the region.

On topic: Interesting that so many people appear to give Bush the edge. I didn't find him particularly compelling though the joke about inventing the internet was hilarious. Gore didn't impress me either from the first question -- he dodged it completely and instead went to his prepared introduction. Gore also insisted on the last word most of the time that I saw (didn't watch all of it), despite their agreed upon limits for the times.

 

[NesuD]

funny but by 9:30 A.M. oct 4 all the debate poll results on abcnews.com show a statistical draw. A quick check of a couple message boards are showing a distinct advantage in positive vs negative comments for Bush. One message board at news.com had positive postings running 78% to 22% in Bush's favor.

 

[dennilfloss]

"His father George Bush Sr didn't speak well but he sure kick saddams ass out of Kuwait"

No.


The Allied military force did. George Bush could have died and Saddam's ass would have gotten kicked even with Dan Quayle in charge. Heck, even with Dukakis. All the president did was to give the military the permission to proceed; they did all the work. The last time a president got too involved in large-scale military operations (Viet Nam), things did not go so well.

Glory Days (Bruce Springsteen)

 

[NFS4]

I's say that it would be close if it weren't for Bush's clearly clueless look and his "moderator, he hit me" attitude. And these cheap little one liners like "Fuzzy Math" and "Mediscare," etc. are childish. Not to mention his utter lack of knowledge compared to Bore.

I'll give Bore the vote on that one.

And who would actually believe those results? You'd have to be pretty screwed up in the head to believe those numbers. Even Ornery wouldn't accept those numbers

 

[FettsBabe]

I will agree with Andrew that the war was not about Saddam. However, it was about Oil!! They were trying to keep the price of oil down and available through trade.

A brief note, countries are invaded everyday as well as people's rights being violated. The US sits back and allows this to happen in other countries, so why would Irag be any different? The only difference is that they had something valiable to us that we cared about...Oil. We certainly don't care about their human rights. We, the US, have repeatedly broke the Geneva Convention. We have violated the rights of their citizens, the citizens needs, etc.

We really could have cared less about Kuwaits liberation. We only cared about ourselves, and thats very sad.

I don't know who I'm voting for. At this point, I don't think it matters.

 

[NesuD]

Never said I beleived them. I was just commenting on how they changed so drastically In a few hours. Oh and by the way the new poll results are based on a target control group of less than 1000 people. The original I think was an open unscientific poll which has totally disappeared from the website. That wasn't a clueless look He was just confused about the rules. They told him that he and Gore had 120 seconds to respond to each question. He didn't know that you could actually use all the time you wanted and always get a second comment in for the last word Like Gore did. Found all the Gore Huffing to be very Uh well MORONISH manners of a boy raised by wolves.

Oops that other poll is still there I just missed it Bush 61.4% Gore 38.5%

 

[abracadabra1]

ehhh...bush, won?
you have to be kidding me.

he looked and sounded like an incompetent idiot.
gore won, almost by a landslide, too. bush did recover a bit towards the end on education and the like.

 

[rahvin]

Bush never fails to amaze me as a complete moron. Guy can't remember the last book he read and is so old boy it's not even funny. They should have nominated McCain but the republican leadership knew they couldn't lead McCain around like they can Bush.

 

[prontospyder]

The only poll I'll trust is the bi-partisan Battleground Poll:

Battleground Poll

They currently have Bush leading Gore by about 3 percentage points.

NFS4:

I think Bush came up with the "fuzzy math" due in part to Gore's recent grandma/dog prescription drugs fiasco where he lied about the numbers given.

 

[thebestMAX]

BUSH won, EOM.

What was with the off camera sighing by the man-tanned loser? He couldnt have been more rude with his jumping in, interrupting, getting in the last word, overusing his time and so on. I know rudeness doesnt count with the Dems but he overdid it.

"Lets not get into personal attacks, lets get to the issues."

Good one there. With no ammo to fire on Bush with, wouldnt you say the same thing?

Gore used all the "consumate salemans" tricks in his bag and still lost.

 

[IronMike]

<< He was bumbling and stumbling all the way through. >>




<< one liners . . . . etc. are childish. Not to mention his utter lack of knowledge >>



Just what do you think we Americans want? We want &quot;values&quot; and &quot;compassion&quot;, dammit! An intellect, as George has said, won't put &quot;food on my family&quot;.
We want a man who knows that the counrty is lacking values and principles (forget examining the candidates life with respect to having to sacrifice for same). We want a man who is compassionate (forget defining that word).

 

[DaBoneHead]

Interesting...

Though this was only round 1. Bush was definitely drilled and prepared for the debates, and he was carefully watching his words and phraseology. He was almost 'Gore-ish' in that way (since gore gets goaded for always having a prepared answer).

But like boxers in the first round, this was only the 'feeling-out' phase. It will be interesting to see how they go at each other in the next series of debates. Round 1 was a draw in my opinion, but without careful preparation, I think Bush will fall in the future debates. These guys aren't 'green' anymore.

Just my $.02.

 

[Underclocked]

Forest Gump's dumb brother
Wish he was running, then I would know who to vote for.
As it is, I'm only sure who NOT to vote for - GORE. He may be a much better speaker but I wouldn't vote for that PLASTIC man if Elmer Fudd was his opponent.
Bush should have been wearing Gore-Tex.

 

[IronMike]

Red, I agree entirely.
My satire, that went awry, was supposed to convey the idea that as a people we should want a leader who has values and ideals acquired with some amount of sacrafice, and a compassioniate leader who has a genuine concern for the welfare of others.

 

[thebestMAX]

RED Dawn -

Always enjoy your posts even though we dont agree most of the time. I am really not too happy with Bush but feel that he was the most plausible of the two. Warm and real, not a consumate saleman and I should know cause I are one.

IRON -

Still dont know where you are coming from. I think it is time for a LEADER, a man with principals, conviction, honesty, discipline, a firm sense of right and wrong. I could go on and on here but you get the idea. I dont agree with Bush on some things being pro choice myself but feel he has a lot to offer in other areas. GORE will be SOSO, look at the last 7 years

 

[IronMike]

Max,
I come from the place that recognizes that Mr. Bush has severe limitations and would be lucky to be a government clerk if it were not for his connections. This man has obviously had some brain damage, I am not sure if that was alcohol, coke, a combination or just a quirk of nature. He probably is a nice man, and good to his wife. I would probably vote for him if I voted for government clerk positions.
Leader? How in GOD's name do you associate leader with Bush? Republicans had the opportunity to select a leader, and someone who has put his life and his career on the line for his principles, John McCain. Instead you select the guy who panders to the nutcases of religious right and peddles power like the candyman and coke.
Compassionate conservative? In my dictionary compassion is defined as &quot;the deep feeling of sharing the suffering of another&quot;. The trouble with the right is that they think all suffering is choice, and Georgie uses that word to meet his own needs. The 2nd definition for compassion is mercy. Anyone who believes George W. has any sense of mercy, is not only unaware of his steadfast refusal to commute death penalty cases, but lives on another planet.
Republicans screwed up, and now they want the rest of America to pay.

 

[thebestMAX]

RED

&quot;Bush could at least communicate his message well enough to be understood. I really think that most of you who feel that Bush's Halfling can do a credible job as President are blinded by your dislike of AL Gore.&quot;

&quot;On the other hand, because I dislike both immensly, I was able to see the negative aspects of both of them and I can assure you than Junior George was a bumbling participant who came across even less competant than Dan Quayle ever did, if that is humanly possible.&quot;

Again we agree but only to a point.

I feel Quale was killed by the liberal media and may be more competent than we know. This is only a gut feeling with no facts to back it up but if the Media had jumped on Gore like they did him, he would not even have been nominated.

Gore is continuance of the clinton administration and if we are better off than we were 8 years ago, it is because of someone who could communicate, Ronald Regan (never saw it myself) and not the throw away candidate that no one thought would ever be elected.

You are right about the selection of Rep candidates. McCain would have been a lot better but now we have to work with what we have. Nominating Dole was a big mistake also, just a payback to him for his service, but hurt the party.

How about commenting on someone I like, George Pitaki. (sp?)
All the times I have heard him speak, i was pleased.

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[Russ]

<< Round 1 was a draw in my opinion, but without careful preparation, I think Bush will fall in the future debates. >>



DaBoneHead,

You're wrong on two counts. First, this was not a draw. Based purely on the debate, if one knew absolutely nothing else about the facts, Bore clearly won this round. The only area in which Bush did well was that of taxes. In the other areas, Bore handed him his ass.

Bush will perform much better in the next debates because they are in a venue and format that is his strong suit. The cadidates will be close to the audience and it will be much less formal. Bush shines in this type of situation, and Bore stiffens up.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Underclocked]

Red, can you name in one solid way that the Clinton/Gore administration is responsible for our continuing economic gains? Do you honestly think the economy of this country can so easily be swayed? Trends set in place well BEFORE Clinton came to office are still empowering our economy.
The best thing the Clinton twins have done is doing nearly nothing. Which might be the best path for our government as a whole (hole?).

 

[JasonG]

This election wouldn't have been close if McCain had been nominated. McCain would have destroyed Gore. Bush can barely keep up with Gore.

Gore, I agree, is too wooden but at least he has a brain that works. I don't agree with everything he says but he's better than a dimwit as president. Bush had no clue about the details of the RU486 approval. Whether you agree with it or not, Bush should at least know something about it but he was clueless. He just &quot;hoped&quot; the FDA made the right decision.

Bush also had no clue about conservation or developing new energy technologies. He just wants to help his fellow big oil friends by drilling for oil in Alaska. Bush didn't say one word about the environment.

Bush is a total crony of the Republican leadership. Cheney was a member of his father's cabinet for god's sake. If he wanted to be his own person, he should have chosen someone more bold as his running mate.

This country is in real trouble if Bush wins.

Jason

 

[NFS4]

I agree, McCain is a worthier opponent to Bore IMHO. Everytime I see Bush on stage I just way to myself:


&quot;What where they thinking?&quot;