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Phoenix86

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I pity people like you who compare dogs to humans, no wonder the society is going down the drains... A dog with signs of aggression, who can hurt people who get close to them no matter what the circumstances are, have to place in this society. There are several cases every year where people die because of negligent pet owners like you...
While you're at it, work on your reading comprehension skills. I never compared dogs to humans and you have no clue how I raise/handle animals.

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DesiPower

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While you're at it, work on your reading comprehension skills. I never compared dogs to humans and you have no clue how I raise/handle animals.

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You inserted the grandma scenario, so... buzz off...

And you are right, I have no clue how I raise/handle animals, and I don't need to, people who can't get enough "companionship" from humans can do whatever they want to in their bedrooms, I don't care, just keep those damn thing away from me.
 
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Markbnj

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I'll add that if you tell someone to stay away from your controlled and leashed dog and they don't heed your warning and get bit, you should be able to sue THEM.

I disagree. No large dog, and especially not a Great Dane, that has shown highly aggressive tendencies, is sufficiently under your control while leashed that you should feel free taking it out in public. The responsibility most definitely remains with you.
 

ichy

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If you want I can post a few pictures showing what sometimes happens to kids when they "get bitten".

The world indeed doesn't end. But that doesn't make it acceptable.

You're right, it's not acceptable for kids to touch dogs that they are told to leave alone.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
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You inserted the grandma scenario, so... buzz off...

And you are right, I have no clue how I raise/handle animals, and I don't need to, people who can't enough "companionship" from humans can do whatever they want to in their bedrooms, I don't care, just keep those damn thing away from me.

The problem is stupid neighbor %&*&*(^ can't respect other people's space. Dog WAS away from other people and &^&**( was warned and didn't listen.

I wish the OP could sue her into oblivion.
 

CPA

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Even sadder is what Trooper's last hours must have been liked. If he already had fear issues with strangers, to be taken away from strangers, placed in a strange kennel/cage then strapped down and euthanized by strangers.

OP should have been there to comfort Trooper's last moments.


I tried to do it at a vet, but because of the quarantine laws, they wouldn't administer the injection. The last few hours consisted of me throwing a football around with him, laying on the couch and bed with him and talking to him.

The AC Officer said that he would be put down within on an hour. They don't board the animals for long, if at all.

and from your previous post, I don't expect anyone to feel sorry for me nor ask for it. I understand the anger and accept it.
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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You inserted the grandma scenario, so... buzz off...

And you are right, I have no clue how I raise/handle animals, and I don't need to, people who can't enough "companionship" from humans can do whatever they want to in their bedrooms, I don't care, just keep those damn thing away from me.

WTF are you talking about grandma scenario, bedrooms, companionship?

Holy hell, were you fed lead based paint chips as a child? Dropped on your head or something? Extra chromosome?
 

CPA

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What did your <insert numerous censored words here> of a neighbor say? Didn't she hear words "don't come my dog will bite"?


She spoke with my wife the day it happened and said it was blown out of proportion.

Here's the rub, the woman who called is NOT the same woman who got bit. It was her mother. She freaked out and called the sheriff. Note, the mother's husband died last week, so you can imagine her state of mind.
 

CPA

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I'm a dog guy man, have two large dogs of my own, and I empathize with you. You've only got two options here: either the dog is kept away from people within an enclosure he can't escape from; or you take the option you've decided on. Frankly I don't think the first one provides much of a life for the animal, so like a lot of the others I think you're doing the right thing. It does suck, but unprovoked and un-signaled attacks on people can't be tolerated, especially by a dog of that size and strength. It would be one thing if he laid his ears back and growled, but snapping out and taking some skin off as a first reaction... that's a really bad sign.


Exactly my thought process.
 

DesiPower

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WTF are you talking about grandma scenario, bedrooms, companionship?

Holy hell, were you fed lead based paint chips as a child? Dropped on your head or something? Extra chromosome?

GTFO of this thread. You clearly don't have the simple compassion most humans should have. OP just put his dog down, do you go to funerals and say "yeah crazy old bitch deserved it" as you stand over the body?

I seriously can't believe you pulled the "what if...someone think of the children" card regarding personal responsibility when the person who was bit was told not to get near the dog. Why aren't you railing on her personal responsibility?

Learn some basic social skills.

BTW, wasn't OutHouse a military dog handler? 'Cause that would be icing on the cake.

Ritalin mas???
 

Juddog

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I tried to do it at a vet, but because of the quarantine laws, they wouldn't administer the injection. The last few hours consisted of me throwing a football around with him, laying on the couch and bed with him and talking to him.

The AC Officer said that he would be put down within on an hour. They don't board the animals for long, if at all.

and from your previous post, I don't expect anyone to feel sorry for me nor ask for it. I understand the anger and accept it.

Regardless of why it happened, it doesn't stop it from sucking, and I feel bad just reading this. It's never easy to put down an animal that you love and sorry to hear that it happened this way. I've been there, done that. Just remember to use a muzzle next time if you get another pet that has aggressive tendencies.
 
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lol, calm down, you did say that OP did the right thing but then followed it with "it totally sucks some bitch of a neighbor did not listen and got bit". You are the one who was debating about whose fault it was, first you said that whatever happened to the lady was justified, then you talked about invading its private space and what not, then you say that its not a sign of aggressive behavior or something like that, you are constantly trying to defend the dog, I know the difference between clam and aggressive dogs, I have seen enough of them. From what OP posted it was pretty evident that there WAS something wrong with the animal. So stop behaving like it was just another day and nothing is out of the ordinary. There was enough evidence to take extreme steps like what OP did.

Personally I HATE people like you and others in the tread who think its for a dog to bite someone. I feel people like you should go to jail and you and your dogs should be castrated right after the first incident so you cannot spread your filth around anymore.


jesus you're stupid. just stop while you're not as far behind as you already are.
 
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I witnessed a dog bite a 2yo kid in the face when I was around 10yo.
Both upper K9s pierced his upper cheek just below his eye ball.
Both lower K9s entered under his chin.
Blood gushed everywhere while he rubbed his face and cried.

Unless it is a police or hunting dog, vicious dogs have no place in this world.

gj OP, you did the right thing.

vicious dogs? some of you people in this thread are morons. this dog was on a leash, with his owner. he wasn't running around mauling people. yes, a kid could have easily came by the dog. that wasn't the case so shut the fuck up bringing irrelevant matters into the thread.
 

DesiPower

Lifer
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vicious dogs? some of you people in this thread are morons. this dog was on a leash, with his owner. he wasn't running around mauling people. yes, a kid could have easily came by the dog. that wasn't the case so shut the fuck up bringing irrelevant matters into the thread.

Its not irrelevant, point is, you cannot predict a dog's behavior. One day they can be very gentle and next they they can kill someone, a slight sign of aggression should not be taken lightly... pet owners have to be more responsible and vigilant, for a dog with history, a muzzle could have saved a lady from getting her skin ripped off who lost some in the family a week back...
 

amish

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I tried to do it at a vet, but because of the quarantine laws, they wouldn't administer the injection. The last few hours consisted of me throwing a football around with him, laying on the couch and bed with him and talking to him.

The AC Officer said that he would be put down within on an hour. They don't board the animals for long, if at all.

and from your previous post, I don't expect anyone to feel sorry for me nor ask for it. I understand the anger and accept it.

CPA, I hope that you can ignore the side debate on who was right and who was wrong. You have taken full responsibility of those under your care and around you. This is something that is rare in this world and I commend you for it.
 

Capt Caveman

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Its not irrelevant, point is, you cannot predict a dog's behavior. One day they can be very gentle and next they they can kill someone, a slight sign of aggression should not be taken lightly... pet owners have to be more responsible and vigilant, for a dog with history, a muzzle could have saved a lady from getting her skin ripped off who lost some in the family a week back...

Stop posting. Your ignorance is scary.
 

Codewiz

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what if what if what if. well what if the sky was green and the grass was blue???

get off your high horse, i never said it was funny. both bites that CPA posted were due to somebody invading the dogs space, he saw a threat and reacted. they were not aggressive attack/prey behavior like you posted.

Bullshit......

That MIGHT be an acceptable worldview for someone who doesn't own a powerful breed but for someone who owns a breed that can kill someone in an instant, it is completely unacceptable.

I have two bulldog mixes. Most people think they are pitbulls but they have no clue. Regardless, my dogs COULD kill a child in an instant.

Dogs are domesticated animals that require two things. Socialization AND training. Ignore either with a powerful breed and you are asking for trouble.

My two dogs have been exposed to children since puppies. They have been required to go into a submissive position anytime a child comes up to them. At this point in their life (7 and 8 years old), if I see someone coming over to get near them, I tell them "Down". If the person comes over to pet them, they roll to their side.

My dogs are required to be submissive around humans. No ifs, ands, or buts. It is responsibility of people who own these types of dogs to make sure they follow through with socialization with people outside your family and spend the time to train them.

I can instantly tell the quality of a pet owner by how they walk their dog. If the dog is pulling on the leash, the owner hasn't trained their dog. Simple as that. It doesn't matter for most dogs but for certain dogs, you are doing every owner a disservice by not training your dog.


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CPA sorry for your loss and I hope you are able to move forward and get another dog that works out for you.
 
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edro

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vicious dogs? some of you people in this thread are morons. this dog was on a leash, with his owner. he wasn't running around mauling people. yes, a kid could have easily came by the dog. that wasn't the case so shut the fuck up bringing irrelevant matters into the thread.
He BIT someone who attempted to pet him.
He BIT someone who attempted to pickup a box.
He is, er, was vicious.

You can't take a biting dog into the public...
 

amish

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Its not irrelevant, point is, you cannot predict a dog's behavior. One day they can be very gentle and next they they can kill someone, a slight sign of aggression should not be taken lightly... pet owners have to be more responsible and vigilant, for a dog with history, a muzzle could have saved a lady from getting her skin ripped off who lost some in the family a week back...

enough, please stop posting on this issue
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
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Even sadder is what Trooper's last hours must have been liked. If he already had fear issues with strangers, to be taken away from strangers, placed in a strange kennel/cage then strapped down and euthanized by strangers.

OP should have been there to comfort Trooper's last moments.

I rarely ever agree with you on anything but this was horrible.

Many Vets would even come to the home and do it there.

OP fail on so many levels.

It wasn't a loss, it was just pure murder. :thumbsdown:
 

Anonemous

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Had the same story happen to my mom's small dog. Some old man approached to pet the dog despite warnings from my mom to not and he got bit. There was no blood but the dude went to the ER (where he had no health insurance since he was an undocumented citizen) and his son inlaw (who works at a law firm) wanted $$$ to pay for his pain/suffering. I just sent them to my insurance agent. Luckily we didn't have to put him down but my mom now doesn't take him out for walks anymore and we just got increased premiums though.
 
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Its not irrelevant, point is, you cannot predict a dog's behavior. One day they can be very gentle and next they they can kill someone, a slight sign of aggression should not be taken lightly... pet owners have to be more responsible and vigilant, for a dog with history, a muzzle could have saved a lady from getting her skin ripped off who lost some in the family a week back...

or a little common fucking sense. any one who walks up to a dog who is TOLD not to come pet it shouldn't be surprised. the dog wasn't pulling the kid to get to her. what's any different than someone told to look across the street before crossing but fails to do so and gets smashed?

stupid people are stupid.
 
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I rarely ever agree with you on anything but this was horrible.

Many Vets would even come to the home and do it there.

OP fail on so many levels.

It wasn't a loss, it was just pure murder. :thumbsdown:

keep your punk ass in P&N. the guy is here, STATING it's his fault. he doesn't need you making ass hat remarks after realizing the mistake.
 
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