Deceit Beyond Bounds

BBond

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Here's the truth about the republican party's minimum wage legislation. This is the standard modus operandi for this corrupt, deceitful, immoral, incompetent, do-noting (other than ingratiate their wealthy benefactors) republican congress. Tie a huge tax break for the super wealthy to a minimum wage bill then attack Democrats for refusing to capitulate to their economic blackmail.

Despicable.

Deceit Beyond Bounds

By BOB HERBERT

It sure looks like American voters want change. And here?s an example of the kind of thing they want a change from.

In a move that was typically and patently deceitful, Republicans in Congress tried to pass a minimum wage measure last week in which the biggest winners would have been some of the wealthiest people in America.

The G.O.P. has tended to fight minimum wage hikes the way the Hatfields battled the McCoys. But suddenly this summer, Republicans discovered minimum wage legislation that they could truly love. G.O.P. leaders in Congress linked a modest increase in the minimum wage to a whopping decrease in the estate tax. The cut in the estate tax would have cost the government at least $268 billion in revenue over the next decade, and probably a lot more.

In exchange for this estate tax bonanza for the fabulously wealthy, the G.O.P. was willing to approve a $2.10-an-hour increase, stretched over three years, in the miserly $5.15-an-hour minimum wage. It was made clear that any Democrats who dared oppose this raid on the Treasury would be targeted by Republicans as obstructionists blocking a sorely needed wage hike for the lowest-paid workers in the nation.

I?m for an increase in the minimum wage and against a cut in the estate tax. But that?s not the point here. The point is the extent to which the Republican Party is willing to engage in deceit to try and achieve ends it could not achieve any other way. The latest incarnation of the Republican Party has taken deceit in government and politics to dangerous new extremes, and it?s time to call a halt to it.

The war in Iraq will be remembered as one of the greatest exercises in systematic governmental deceit in U.S. history. But the Iraq fiasco is just the most stunning and tragic example of a style of governing and politicking that has become second nature to the Bush administration and much of the national Republican establishment.

This is a crowd that will tell you with a straight face that it is creating a wondrous new world in the Middle East, that it is doing what it can to stem the ominous tide of global warming, that the United States does not engage in torture, that the administration carefully guards the civil liberties of ordinary Americans, and that it does not favor the wealthy over poor and working people.

These are folks who will tell you that up is down, and punish you for insisting that up is up.

It is in that same deceitful and vengeful spirit that the party is now attacking Democratic senators who managed to hold fast, under the leadership of the minority leader, Harry Reid, to defeat the legislation that cynically tied the estate tax windfall to an increase in the minimum wage.

The National Republican Senatorial Committee declared that Maria Cantwell, a Democratic senator from Washington who voted against the bogus bill, ?decided that giving in to pressure from her party?s leadership was more important than voting to raise the federal minimum wage.?

Senator Cantwell, who is up for re-election this year, favors an increase in the minimum wage, as does her party?s leadership. It has been the Democratic Party that has been pushing for years for an increase in the minimum wage, but there is no room for that reality in the G.O.P.?s corrosive culture of deceit.

The buying power of the minimum wage is at a 50-year low. Members of Congress have raised their own pay by $31,600 since the last increase in the minimum wage nine years ago. For Republicans to exploit the plight of workers buried in economic hardship in order to put millions of additional dollars into the portfolios of the already wealthy is beyond egregious.

?If you landed here from Mars and looked at Congress?s agenda,? said Jared Bernstein, senior economist at the Economic Policy Institute in Washington, ?you?d think that the problem in America is that rich people don?t have enough money.?

If the Republicans wanted to increase the minimum wage, they could do it in about the time it takes to snap your finger. Democrats would be on board, and the legislative language would not have to be much longer than a paragraph.

They don?t want a minimum wage increase; they want a cut in the estate tax.

Regrettably, there is always a certain amount of deceit in politics. Republicans do not have a monopoly on it. But for a system like ours to work even reasonably well, governmental deceit has to be held within certain limits. Otherwise the system will break down.

Today?s Republican Party has gone far beyond those limits.
 

wetech

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This is just politics as usual. It's just like a poison pill amendment, only this time, it came with the original text of the bill.
 

straightalker

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You can't empower the Middle Class. You can't allow a path up to there either among the poor. Dumb'em down in public schools and let them eat the garbage in our processed foods. This is Feudalism when all the power and wealth always drains upwards to the already wealthy Class.

Most career Congressrats and Senatescum have offshore accounts loaded with cash from bribes. So at this stage most are highly blackmailable as well. So things that the Powers That Be really really want, like a huge dirt cheap labor pool all across America, ...they get with just a turning of the screw on these hundreds of no good traitors.

Hope i'm not sounding too loud. It's just that these articles are all basicly about the same thing these days. Greed and sick agendas. Sucking wealth off the poor and transferring it to the rich.

Here's a juicy factoid to add to your factoids list... ...enjoy
Bushonomics has pushed America beyond the point of no return. In a landmark report, Citizens for Tax Justice, in conjunction with the IRS, points out what we?ve been talking about all along.

It shows the unfairness of Bushonian disproportionate tax cuts, and it shows in numbers of all citizens, by income bracket, how they have benefited or not , because of all of the Bushonian tax cuts which have occurred under this Regime.

No nation-state in the last 2,000 years has had such an enormous transfer of wealth from the bottom 50% of the population to the top 20% of the population as has occurred in the United States under the current Regime.

 

fitzov

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The Democrats have had plenty of chances to increase the min wage--they are just as corrupt.
 

HombrePequeno

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Is this surprising? I thought that was the entire point of including the cut in the estate tax was so it wouldn't get passed and Republicans would have some ammo (what else could they use?) in the upcoming elections. This isn't really news; it's every day politics.
 

EagleKeeper

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How many times was the min wage raised when the Dems were in control of Congress?

Do not blame the Republicans; blame the politicians.
 

Corn

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What's this you say? A NYT opinion piece that don't like Republicans? I tell you I'm SHOCKED!

:roll:

Good thing I am a Republican working my way to the top of the food chain.......because when mad cow disease wipes out all the cattle it will be Democrat on the menu and on my plate. :evil:
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Corn
What's this you say? A NYT opinion piece that don't like Republicans? I tell you I'm SHOCKED!

:roll:

Good thing I am a Republican working my way to the top of the food chain.......because when mad cow disease wipes out all the cattle it will be Democrat on the menu and on my plate. :evil:
Come on we all know you guys will resort to eating your young
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: straightalker
You can't empower the Middle Class. You can't allow a path up to there either among the poor. Dumb'em down in public schools and let them eat the garbage in our processed foods. This is Feudalism when all the power and wealth always drains upwards to the already wealthy Class.

Most career Congressrats and Senatescum have offshore accounts loaded with cash from bribes. So at this stage most are highly blackmailable as well. So things that the Powers That Be really really want, like a huge dirt cheap labor pool all across America, ...they get with just a turning of the screw on these hundreds of no good traitors.

Hope i'm not sounding too loud. It's just that these articles are all basicly about the same thing these days. Greed and sick agendas. Sucking wealth off the poor and transferring it to the rich.

Here's a juicy factoid to add to your factoids list... ...enjoy
Bushonomics has pushed America beyond the point of no return. In a landmark report, Citizens for Tax Justice, in conjunction with the IRS, points out what we?ve been talking about all along.

It shows the unfairness of Bushonian disproportionate tax cuts, and it shows in numbers of all citizens, by income bracket, how they have benefited or not , because of all of the Bushonian tax cuts which have occurred under this Regime.

No nation-state in the last 2,000 years has had such an enormous transfer of wealth from the bottom 50% of the population to the top 20% of the population as has occurred in the United States under the current Regime.
Please present your proof and evidence to the justice department and link it here. You don't sound so much loud but more like goofy.
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: Corn
What's this you say? A NYT opinion piece that don't like Republicans? I tell you I'm SHOCKED!

:roll:

Good thing I am a Republican working my way to the top of the food chain.......because when mad cow disease wipes out all the cattle it will be Democrat on the menu and on my plate. :evil:



Yeah you're such a self-made Republican badass :disgust:

More tough talk from little men.
 

wirelessenabled

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It's interesting the GOP chose to pick on Sen. Cantwell of Washington State.

Here in Washington the state minimum wage is already $7.65 so the proposed Federal increase would have no affect in our state.

Of course the Frist and the GOP leadership are clueless so they probably didn't know/think about that.

It was more important in the scheme of things to "support" Cantwell's GOP challenger, Mike McGavick who is using his controversial $30 million retirement payout from a local insurance company to try to widen his horizons.:thumbsdown:
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: fitzov
The Democrats have had plenty of chances to increase the min wage--they are just as corrupt.

Just so I'm clear on this one . . . how many times has the minimum wage been increased since 1994? What happened in 1994 by the way?

Wiki
The minimum wage was re-established in the United States in 1938 (pursuant to the Fair Labor Standards Act), once again at $.25 per hour ($3.22 in 2005 dollars.)
Pretty sure those were Democrats and that FDR fellow.

It had its highest purchasing value ever in 1968, when it was $1.60/hour ($9.12 in 2005 dollars.)
Pretty sure that was Democrats and that LBJ fellow.

During his presidency, Bill Clinton gave states the power to set their minimum wages above the federal level.
I'm pretty sure that guy was a Democrat, too. I guess Bush was too busy with torture and domestic surveillance programs to bother with such things.

As of 2004, 12 states had done so; and on November 2 of that year two additional states (Florida and Nevada) approved increases in statewide referendums.
 

kage69

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How many times was the min wage raised when the Dems were in control of Congress?

Uhm, now I could be wrong here Eagle, but I'm pretty sure the issue isn't who raised the min wage how many times according to party. The issue is the duplicity involved over raising the mininum wage (something that is by nature directly related to the lowest income bracket) so that it benefits the wealthiest people in the country (a group who by their financial position shouldn't even be in the same sentence as 'min wage'). A better question might be, "How many times was the min wage increased by the Dems in which they were able to attach other interests to the increase?"

Do not blame the Republicans; blame the politicians


With a Repub dominated Congress, it stands to reason they should get the lion's share of the blame. While I don't hold any particular love for Dems, the poor guys have their hands full just trying to be heard. But I mostly blame people who act like this is business as usual, and despite acting like it's a moral outrage when one party does it, plainly don't GaS when the other party does it. Until conservatives start speaking out over when their reps behave badly, the GOP will never be the superiour alternative to the Dems they all wish it was.


Come on we all know you guys will resort to eating your young

I dunno, a plateful of baby cornholes. Methinks the overriding saltiness and taste of bullsh!t would kill any appetite, even his.


 

TheSlamma

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It's funny to see people still fall for these 2 stupid a$$ parties.

Vote indy and make your mind up on a per issue basis. Lazy Americans wanting all their choices made for them, no wonder we are falling behind on everything but combat ability.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Corn
What's this you say? A NYT opinion piece that don't like Republicans? I tell you I'm SHOCKED!

:roll:

Good thing I am a Republican working my way to the top of the food chain.......because when mad cow disease wipes out all the cattle it will be Democrat on the menu and on my plate. :evil:
Come on we all know you guys will resort to eating your young
That only happens when we exhaust all other options including democrats


 

Genx87

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It had its highest purchasing value ever in 1968, when it was $1.60/hour ($9.12 in 2005 dollars.)

There is something to strive for as an economy. The lowest wage earners having the highest purchasing power.

 

TheSlamma

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Originally posted by: Genx87
It had its highest purchasing value ever in 1968, when it was $1.60/hour ($9.12 in 2005 dollars.)

There is something to strive for as an economy. The lowest wage earners having the highest purchasing power.
Thanks to credit cards and huge HELOC's I figured they still were. Their spending habits are horrid.

 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Corn
What's this you say? A NYT opinion piece that don't like Republicans? I tell you I'm SHOCKED!

:roll:

Good thing I am a Republican working my way to the top of the food chain.......because when mad cow disease wipes out all the cattle it will be Democrat on the menu and on my plate. :evil:

Heheheheheh There be Corn in them Michigan fields...
The higher up the chain the farther down the fall. We will still welcome you to the foundation cuz gravity someday will see that chain just floating there and when enough of the hot air that keeps it afloat dissipates I'll be hiding from the tumbling and irate bodies as they cascade back to reality...
 

fitzov

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: fitzov
The Democrats have had plenty of chances to increase the min wage--they are just as corrupt.

Just so I'm clear on this one . . . how many times has the minimum wage been increased since 1994? What happened in 1994 by the way?

Wiki
The minimum wage was re-established in the United States in 1938 (pursuant to the Fair Labor Standards Act), once again at $.25 per hour ($3.22 in 2005 dollars.)
Pretty sure those were Democrats and that FDR fellow.

It had its highest purchasing value ever in 1968, when it was $1.60/hour ($9.12 in 2005 dollars.)
Pretty sure that was Democrats and that LBJ fellow.

During his presidency, Bill Clinton gave states the power to set their minimum wages above the federal level.
I'm pretty sure that guy was a Democrat, too. I guess Bush was too busy with torture and domestic surveillance programs to bother with such things.

As of 2004, 12 states had done so; and on November 2 of that year two additional states (Florida and Nevada) approved increases in statewide referendums.

I believe during FDR's reign Congress was Republican. As for Clinton, no permission was necessary for a state to raise its minimum wage unless SCOTUS has ruled somewhere that min wage is restricted by the "commerce clause".
 

BBond

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What is all this nonsense about Democrats and republicans all being crooked? This is a republican controlled executive, legislative, and judicial government we have here. They are forcing through the agenda they want and it is an agenda full of corruption, special interests, and HUGE tax breaks for the very wealthiest Americans while the middle class keeps shrinking and poverty keeps growing.

WTFU and stop making excuses for the republicans who control government from top to bottom. If it were the Democrats in control you republican excuse makers would be railing aobut these very same issues.

What a bunch of hypocrites.
 
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