Deception; fermi's wood screws vs ivy bridge's video

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georgec84

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Intel's response is at the end of the article.

http://semiaccurate.com/2012/01/09/intel-fakes-ivy-bridge-graphics-on-stage-at-ces/

“We used a video in the DX11 Ivy Bridge-based Ultrabook demo simply for expediency at today’s Intel press event at CES. We were extremely limited for time and didn’t want to lose any time by getting in and out of the game. And Mooly told the audience this at the end of the demo… a couple of people have posted video of the demo on YouTube and you can hear Mooly say that the demo was driven by the folks behind the stage because he was limited for time and then went on to explain the DX11 support in Ivy Bridge.
We first demonstrated the Dx11 feature of Ivy Bridge at IDF last September. It runs extremely well. The demo can easily be reproduced live for anyone who wants to see it. We’d be happy to show it to you and let you play DX11 games the next time you are in Santa Clara.”
I guess it was too hard to have someone else take two minutes to load the game and set it up before Mooly took the wheel? Not to mention the outright LIES because everyone saw the VLC player interface. Lying fail.
 
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Vesku

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Why have him jockey with the wheel at all, why not have a younger photogenic guy or gal stand next to him and actually play the game. Does it take five minutes to load on their IB demo unit? As he walks off stage I thought I heard Mooly say 'it's being driven behind the stage in REALTIME' in a less than confident tone.

Someone near Santa Clara that can take Intel up on their offer of IB DX11 gaming, tomorrow?
 

IntelUser2000

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Wow. 3.5 months away from launch and they have enough problems that they had to fake the demo.

There's also a benchmark that showed that Ivy Bridge mobile chip had small gain over previous generation. The chip is starting to look disappointing.
 

Grooveriding

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Embarrassing, but could care less. These IGPs are only good for mobile CPUs and low end desktop chips imo anyways, leave them out of K class CPUs imo. So many awkward VPs and CEOs giving presentations there as well, this one included.

One thing nvidia has going for them is JHH is an excellent orator.
 
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BallaTheFeared

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Looks to me like he was actually expecting to play, not watch a video of the benchmark runtime...

Someone messed up.
 

BallaTheFeared

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Just because he talks for Intel doesn't mean he plays video games.

Why would they give him a wheel if they were going to run the benchmark?


None of it really makes any sense, I think someone messed up.
 

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I hope Haswell is better in terms of graphics... I mean, compared with the old stuff, Sandy Bridge was leaps and bounds ahead in terms of graphics. Intel has the ability to pull it off.
 

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Arzachel

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I hope Haswell is better in terms of graphics... I mean, compared with the old stuff, Sandy Bridge was leaps and bounds ahead in terms of graphics. Intel has the ability to pull it off.

Being leaps and bounds better than a Lovecraftian nightmare still makes for a horrid monstrosity. Intel could be trying their hardest to make the worst IGP imaginable and it would still be better than their pre-SB offerings.
 

Khato

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While there's no question that the 'demo' deserves an eye-roll, I wouldn't be so quick about attempting to draw any conclusions from it. After all, they did a dx11 hawx 2 demo on Ivy Bridge during fall IDF in September, which lends credence to this merely being a video of Ivy Bridge playing the game. Hopefully there'll be some actual performance indications given during the course of CES.
 

Rifter

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Whatever. I've now given up on expecting companies to be honest. They all lie, every single one of them. Intel, AMD, Nvidia have all done it at one point or another. Its just a part of business nowdays i guess.
 

IntelUser2000

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I think maybe we're all hyped up on what might be nothing and could work well on a final product.

http://hothardware.com/Reviews/IDF-2011-Eden-Keynote-Ultrabooks-with-Gallery/

HAWX worked in DX11, and earlier engineering sample leaks ran 3DMark11. It could be just one game. Even on the CPU side, few months changed a lot of things.

Remember the Sandy Bridge CPU leak that performed 0-5% better than Lynnfield/Bloomfield? They've got till April 8 to prove themselves.
 

dma0991

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Never really expected that IB's IGP will be capable of playing games anyways. Even if it could play, I still wouldn't as graphics settings at that level is not enjoyable at all.

I've tried playing games with the steering and it ain't easy especially the ones with force feedback and I'll end up off course most of the time. Probably Mooly couldn't drive a F1 car so they 'simulate' it. :biggrin:
 

zebrax2

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When he played the video using the touch pad rather than the buttons on it or the keyboard he knew he f***ed up and quickly tried to find some excuse
 

piesquared

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While there's no question that the 'demo' deserves an eye-roll, I wouldn't be so quick about attempting to draw any conclusions from it. After all, they did a dx11 hawx 2 demo on Ivy Bridge during fall IDF in September, which lends credence to this merely being a video of Ivy Bridge playing the game. Hopefully there'll be some actual performance indications given during the course of CES.

Did they? Or was it just another devious scam that intel is famous for, and has been famous for for decades. This cat is out of the box, and it isn't going back in. It deserves more than an eye-roll when the marketshare leader tries to deceive the press, investors, and consumers in a major trade show lol. How sweet it is.

More here:

http://semiaccurate.com/2012/01/09/intel-fakes-ivy-bridge-graphics-on-stage-at-ces/

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2012/1/9/intel-fakes-dx11-ultrabook-demo.aspx

http://www.hardocp.com/news/2012/01/10/ces_2012_demonstration_fail_day

And many more. That about kills any remaining graphics credibility for intel.
 

BallaTheFeared

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Here is my problem..

IT'S THE BENCHMARK.

Are you telling me Intel employs people who are so utterly retarded they would assume we wouldn't know it was the benchmark even if we had not seen the huge bar for vlc?

Also I feel like I'm the stupid one now, because the Youtube video states "If you look closely" as if I wouldn't notice the HUGE BAR across the bottom, or the fact that he clicks pay!

It's also not like he continued on with the charade, he was like "lol wtf I'm not even playing what is this I don't even..." then walked away, he was clearly clueless about what was going on and just started rambling incoherent crap because he was on stage and looked like an idiot... What would you do?
 

formulav8

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Blah Blah Intel. So, they allowed anand to test a game for 5 minutes.....

Thats all the proof he needed apparently :\

Intel will most likely fall on its face with its drivers anyways...
 

dma0991

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And intel sends out it's PR agents to show a demo behind closed doors, of which they couldn't show live. Uh huh, sounds credible and believable.
Imagine how it would have been testing IB in this video 8 months ago. Who needs a steering or a keyboard when you can play iRacing with a mouse?

Probably Mooly was a terrible driver.
 
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