Decided to pick up archery

[adairusmc]

A friend of mine are getting into archery pretty good, but we have just been using old crap 40lb compound bows. I am no where near good enough to hunt with this yet, but I am improving.

I decided to pick this setup up today. It is a Parker Frontier Powerline outfitter package. I looked at these at cabela's, and the package with the bow, sights, whisker biscuit, braided sling, quiver, and peep sight and they sold there for $799. I got this same package at a archery shop for $649 (I think a big part of it was that I mentioned I had been looking at cabelas ). I also got a half dozen custom arrows and a good adjustable release.

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Anyone here into archery? I am very new to all of this, and just asking if there is anything else I should consider investing in (other than massive amounts of extra arrows, and targets).

I can't wait to try this thing out on my camping trip this weekend.

 

[Kadarin]

So how would something like that do against a classic English Longbow?

 

[nick1985]

Nice bow Robin Hood


Cool hobby :thumbsup:


Semper Fi

 

[Tiamat]

nice!

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: Kadarin
So how would something like that do against a classic English Longbow?

I dunno. The guy at the archery shop had some nice new manufacture longbow and recurve bows, and the max speed they are rated for (IBO) are around 200 feet per second. This bow I bought today is rated at 315 FPS.

I shot it for a couple of hours at his indoor range, while he adjusted the bow for my specs and corrected my shooting form. That arrow sure does not waste any time getting to the target. It is amazing the difference coming from a crappy kiddie bow to this thing.

Before he started working on the bow and how I was shooting it, I was barely even hitting the target. By the time he had me adjusted and shooting the thing properly, I had 10 arrows in a six inch circle at 20 yards. I was hooked then.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Wear something for the arm thats holding your bow. Your first time smacking the string on your forearm is NOT a fun experience.

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Wear something for the arm thats holding your bow. Your first time smacking the string on your forearm is NOT a fun experience.

A friend of mine did that the other day with his new bow, and it sure screwed his arm up good. I am definately going to invest in one of those until I get the hang of not taking my own arm off.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Oh yeah, also, try to be like these guys.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZcN...E&mode=related&search=

 

[evolvedbullet]

I wish I had a Mongolian bow .

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: adairusmc

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Wear something for the arm thats holding your bow. Your first time smacking the string on your forearm is NOT a fun experience.

A friend of mine did that the other day with his new bow, and it sure screwed his arm up good. I am definately going to invest in one of those until I get the hang of not taking my own arm off.

I keep mine on everytime I shoot (hunting and practice). It still happens to the best of us and leaves a nasty mark

Get extra field points for target practice. For some reason I always seem to lose them. Lots of arrows (especially since you're shooting carbon ones). Also don't scrimp on your practice target. The nicer ones take more abuse and pull out easier.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: adairusmc
A friend of mine are getting into archery pretty good, but we have just been using old crap 40lb compound bows. I am no where near good enough to hunt with this yet, but I am improving.

I decided to pick this setup up today. It is a Parker Frontier Powerline outfitter package. I looked at these at cabela's, and the package with the bow, sights, whisker biscuit, braided sling, quiver, and peep sight and they sold there for $799. I got this same package at a archery shop for $649 (I think a big part of it was that I mentioned I had been looking at cabelas ). I also got a half dozen custom arrows and a good adjustable release.

Pics -

Pic 1

Pic 2


Anyone here into archery? I am very new to all of this, and just asking if there is anything else I should consider investing in (other than massive amounts of extra arrows, and targets).

I can't wait to try this thing out on my camping trip this weekend.

i love going to shoot my bow. one thing i suggest is it looks like you have the $15 release.

I would go to a hunting place like gander mountain (I love the store) and find release you really like. the one i had cost me $50 (mid grade). same with sight and rest.

rest are great. a good one will reduce the size of the arrow!

 

[KMc]

Looks like a good setup for a beginner, although I don't know much about the stats on that particular bow (brace height, IBO speed, draw weight, etc.). Regardless, the very best thing you can do right now is make sure the bow is tuned properly by the shop, meaning it is shooting the arrows you had made nice and flat in consistent groups. Then, it's very simple - practice, practice, practice, practice. And after that, practice some more.

You will be amazed how quickly you will be able to shoot nice tight groups at a big fixed target a known distance away. And you will feel quite confident, but get yourself out in the freezing cold with tight muscles, 15+ ft. up in a tree stand standing on a platform the size of a postage stamp, shooting at a nice buck in almost zero daylight at some uncertain distance away (is that 25 or 30 yards?), and you've been holding that bow at full draw for 30 seconds because you need that deer to take one more step out from behind that tree, oh, and by the way, if you don't put that arrow right in the pie plate, you may miss completely or you may wound it and spend the next several hours on your hands and knees looking for drops of blood in the dark....

Yeah, that's bowhunting - good luck.

 

[Tiamat]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Oh yeah, also, try to be like these guys.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZcN...E&mode=related&search=

amazing, thats crazy accuracy

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

At least where I am at (Milwaukee, WI), Cabellas does not have a great selection of bows. Gander Mountain is actually much better.

I fell in love with a $1300 crossbow. I can't afford to ever go there now.

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: adairusmc
A friend of mine are getting into archery pretty good, but we have just been using old crap 40lb compound bows. I am no where near good enough to hunt with this yet, but I am improving.

I decided to pick this setup up today. It is a Parker Frontier Powerline outfitter package. I looked at these at cabela's, and the package with the bow, sights, whisker biscuit, braided sling, quiver, and peep sight and they sold there for $799. I got this same package at a archery shop for $649 (I think a big part of it was that I mentioned I had been looking at cabelas ). I also got a half dozen custom arrows and a good adjustable release.

Pics -

Pic 1

Pic 2


Anyone here into archery? I am very new to all of this, and just asking if there is anything else I should consider investing in (other than massive amounts of extra arrows, and targets).

I can't wait to try this thing out on my camping trip this weekend.

i love going to shoot my bow. one thing i suggest is it looks like you have the $15 release.

I would go to a hunting place like gander mountain (I love the store) and find release you really like. the one i had cost me $50 (mid grade). same with sight and rest.

rest are great. a good one will reduce the size of the arrow!

I will have to check out a good rest, but the whisker biscuit works great for now.

A new set of sights is definately on the list though, as the one in the kit is a lower end set of sights.

The release I got I thought was pretty good. The box says Tru-Fire Hurricaine. I dont know much about releases, but I paid $60 for it, and tru-fire is selling them for $65 here I thought it was a pretty good release when I was shooting it in the store, but I am sure there are better ones.

 

[KMc]

Originally posted by: KMc
Looks like a good setup for a beginner, although I don't know much about the stats on that particular bow (brace height, IBO speed, draw weight, etc.). Regardless, the very best thing you can do right now is make sure the bow is tuned properly by the shop, meaning it is shooting the arrows you had made nice and flat in consistent groups. Then, it's very simple - practice, practice, practice, practice. And after that, practice some more.

You will be amazed how quickly you will be able to shoot nice tight groups at a big fixed target a known distance away. And you will feel quite confident, but get yourself out in the freezing cold with tight muscles, 15+ ft. up in a tree stand standing on a platform the size of a postage stamp, shooting at a nice buck in almost zero daylight at some uncertain distance away (is that 25 or 30 yards?), and you've been holding that bow at full draw for 30 seconds because you need that deer to take one more step out from behind that tree, oh, and by the way, if you don't put that arrow right in the pie plate, you may miss completely or you may wound it and spend the next several hours on your hands and knees looking for drops of blood in the dark....

Yeah, that's bowhunting - good luck.

Oh, but don't get me wrong, bowhunting is the greatest, because once you've mastered the above situation and dropped that buck within a few steps, you will realize the truth, which is that gun hunting is for pu$$ies.

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: KMc
Looks like a good setup for a beginner, although I don't know much about the stats on that particular bow (brace height, IBO speed, draw weight, etc.). Regardless, the very best thing you can do right now is make sure the bow is tuned properly by the shop, meaning it is shooting the arrows you had made nice and flat in consistent groups. Then, it's very simple - practice, practice, practice, practice. And after that, practice some more.

You will be amazed how quickly you will be able to shoot nice tight groups at a big fixed target a known distance away. And you will feel quite confident, but get yourself out in the freezing cold with tight muscles, 15+ ft. up in a tree stand standing on a platform the size of a postage stamp, shooting at a nice buck in almost zero daylight at some uncertain distance away (is that 25 or 30 yards?), and you've been holding that bow at full draw for 30 seconds because you need that deer to take one more step out from behind that tree, oh, and by the way, if you don't put that arrow right in the pie plate, you may miss completely or you may wound it and spend the next several hours on your hands and knees looking for drops of blood in the dark....

Yeah, that's bowhunting - good luck.

Yeah, we spend a good two hours today setting up the bow just for me, it is crazy how much it improved my shots in the indoor range.

The IBO speed of this bow is 313FPS, draw weight is 70 pounds, and the brace height is 6 3/4". I dont know what significance the brace height is, but I am sure I will learn all of that stuff in time.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: adairusmc

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: adairusmc
A friend of mine are getting into archery pretty good, but we have just been using old crap 40lb compound bows. I am no where near good enough to hunt with this yet, but I am improving.

I decided to pick this setup up today. It is a Parker Frontier Powerline outfitter package. I looked at these at cabela's, and the package with the bow, sights, whisker biscuit, braided sling, quiver, and peep sight and they sold there for $799. I got this same package at a archery shop for $649 (I think a big part of it was that I mentioned I had been looking at cabelas ). I also got a half dozen custom arrows and a good adjustable release.

Pics -

Pic 1

Pic 2


Anyone here into archery? I am very new to all of this, and just asking if there is anything else I should consider investing in (other than massive amounts of extra arrows, and targets).

I can't wait to try this thing out on my camping trip this weekend.

i love going to shoot my bow. one thing i suggest is it looks like you have the $15 release.

I would go to a hunting place like gander mountain (I love the store) and find release you really like. the one i had cost me $50 (mid grade). same with sight and rest.

rest are great. a good one will reduce the size of the arrow!

I will have to check out a good rest, but the whisker biscuit works great for now.

A new set of sights is definately on the list though, as the one in the kit is a lower end set of sights.

The release I got I thought was pretty good. The box says Tru-Fire Hurricaine. I dont know much about releases, but I paid $60 for it, and tru-fire is selling them for $65 here I thought it was a pretty good release when I was shooting it in the store, but I am sure there are better ones.

good. it looked like the cheap one from walmart/target/kmart. it fricken sucks but i see a LOT of poeple new to archery with it.

A bad release will turn you off from archery fast!

I cant stand the single finger fire ones like that. the one i have is 2-3 finger with a huge wrist strap. I haven't seen it for sale for like 10 years though.

 

[TehMac]

composite bows sucky sucky. I like a good ol' pure elm or yew myself. Comps are not used at Tournaments because they're too easy. Least that's what I was told at the range.

 

[KMc]

It's a little complicated, but essentially, the shorter the brace height, the longer the arrow stays on the string. 6 3/4 is pretty aggressive, which is to say that any fluctuations in your technique are amplified because the arrow is in contact with the bow longer. It also means that it has a longer duration of energy transfer from the string - so it's a trade-off.

Now, it's all relative because it also depends on your draw length. So, for someone like me with a short 27" draw length, I want all the help I can get, so I go with the shorter brace height bows.

 

[KMc]

Depending on how comfortable you are with the 70# draw, most bows of that weight are adjustable to around 60 - 70#. I would highly recommend letting off your draw weight until you are really comfortable with it and can essentially shoot continuously without fatigue. Then start cranking up the poundage. I start over every season at 60 and work back up.

It's not an ego thing, it's a deadly accuracy thing.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: KMc
Depending on how comfortable you are with the 70# draw, most bows of that weight are adjustable to around 60 - 70#. I would highly recommend letting off your draw weight until you are really comfortable with it and can essentially shoot continuously without fatigue. Then start cranking up the poundage. I start over every season at 60 and work back up.

It's not an ego thing, it's a deadly accuracy thing.

yeap.

i had a 45-60lb draw. started at 40 and would go shooting 3-4 days a week (heh nice living in the country. just open the back door and climb the tree!). finally got it up to 60lb and it was no problem useing.

I loved the bow. to bad it broke (didnt help i droped it out of a tree..)

 

[KMc]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: KMc
Depending on how comfortable you are with the 70# draw, most bows of that weight are adjustable to around 60 - 70#. I would highly recommend letting off your draw weight until you are really comfortable with it and can essentially shoot continuously without fatigue. Then start cranking up the poundage. I start over every season at 60 and work back up.

It's not an ego thing, it's a deadly accuracy thing.

yeap.

i had a 45-60lb draw. started at 40 and would go shooting 3-4 days a week (heh nice living in the country. just open the back door and climb the tree!). finally got it up to 60lb and it was no problem useing.

I loved the bow. to bad it broke (didnt help i droped it out of a tree..)

I hate when that happens....

 

[Auric]

Originally posted by: Kadarin
So how would something like that do against a classic English Longbow?

Yeah, I'd rather have a classic bow and develop my strength rather than relying upon such a fiddly contraption (no offense).

 

[KMc]

Originally posted by: TehMac
composite bows sucky sucky. I like a good ol' pure elm or yew myself. Comps are not used at Tournaments because they're too easy. Least that's what I was told at the range.

Ummmm, yeah, your range, it lies to you.