deck stain

[Fanatical Meat]

I'm tired of how the sun destroys our deck stain. The deck is in its second half of its life. Has anyone tried one of these treatments?
I'm hesitant because its close to impossible to remove it.

http://m.homedepot.com/p/BEHR-Premium-DeckOver-1-gal-Wood-and-Concrete-Coating-500001/206031374

 

[boomerang]

Several companies have come out with these coatings. I stood on someone's deck that had used a similar product. The uniformity of color when initially looking at the deck made a very good impression. The masking of the effects of weather over the years was excellent from the perspective of there really was none visible. The surface of the deck had a texture to it that was uniform and obviously non-slip.

Close inspection revealed that the coating is very thick. At the ends of the boards there was a visible edge that led me to believe that it could possibly even be peeled off or at the least grabbed and peeled to a degree if the adhesion was not optimal.

When I researched the application of the product I decided against it. The stuff is extremely thick and must be physically removed from the joints between deck boards or it will tend to "bridge" them. The stuff was just not fluid enough to run in between. It is very viscous. On a small deck it may not be that big a deal. Ours is not huge but at 16' x 24' there are a lot of joints between the deck boards.

Having said all that, this was about three years ago, it was not the same product and I cannot recall from what manufacturer it was. My advice would be to research the application process.

Our deck is not in the second half, it is in its final stage of life. I am getting bids right now to renew it. It's lasted 22 years in Michigan so I can't complain. But the cost... ouch!

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Several companies have come out with these coatings. I stood on someone's deck that had used a similar product. The uniformity of color when initially looking at the deck made a very good impression. The masking of the effects of weather over the years was excellent from the perspective of there really was non visible. The surface of the deck had a texture to it that was uniform and obviously non-slip.

Close inspection revealed that the coating is very thick. At the ends of the boards there was a visible edge that led me to believe that it could possibly even be peeled off or at the least grabbed and peeled to a degree if the adhesion was not optimal.

When I researched the application of the product I decided against it. The stuff is extremely thick and must be physically removed from the joints between deck boards or it will tend to "bridge" them. The stuff was just not fluid enough to run in between. It is very viscous. On a small deck it may not be that big a deal. Ours is not huge but at 16' x 24' there are a lot of joints between the deck boards.

Having said all that, this was about three years ago, it was not the same product and I cannot recall from what manufacturer it was. My advice would be to research the application process.

Our deck is not in the second half, it is in its final stage of life. I am getting bids right now to renew it. It's lasted 22 years in Michigan so I can't complain. But the cost... ouch!

I hear you. Research revels pretty much what you said, some don't like how it adheres others love the final result. I'm concerned that I could be one of the peeling guys and scraping all this junk off would be a nightmare task.

My deck is very stable there is absolutely not give in it so I'm not too concerned about it cracking.

 

[boomerang]

I hear you. Research revels pretty much what you said, some don't like how it adheres others love the final result. I'm concerned that I could be one of the peeling guys and scraping all this junk off would be a nightmare task.

My deck is very stable there is absolutely not give in it so I'm not too concerned about it cracking.

Here's another thing to consider. On a deck with this product applied, when it came time to replace the deck boards it would be a much simpler task on a deck built with nails versus screws. Mummified nail heads means the boards can still be muscled off. Mummified screw heads sounds like it would be a nightmare.

Even though my deck was done with 5/4 x 6 cedar, they are still rotting. I have replaced a number of them through the years. These coatings mask the roughness and rawness very well but the rot will still be occurring. It's nothing but a temporary cosmetic remedy. The kind of thing you do before you sell in hopes of a naive buyer. :thumbsup:

Which is definitely not cool.

 

[DrPizza]

Having attempted to remove deck screws in the past, my experience was that I end up with at least a few screws that snap in half when attempting to screw them out. (That was prior to using an impact screw gun though.) But, it really didn't make it that hard to remove a bad deck board.

We used Renew or something like that on our hot tub. The exterior was very badly weathered - didn't look like it had ever been refinished in 20 years. We were extremely happy with the finished product. 2 years later, at ground level where the bottom edge of the board was more prone to dampness, I noticed just a little bit of the stuff pealed off when I hit it with the pressure washer (I was pressure washing the patio, and there were some mud splatters on the hot tub as a result.)

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Having attempted to remove deck screws in the past, my experience was that I end up with at least a few screws that snap in half when attempting to screw them out. (That was prior to using an impact screw gun though.) But, it really didn't make it that hard to remove a bad deck board.

We used Renew or something like that on our hot tub. The exterior was very badly weathered - didn't look like it had ever been refinished in 20 years. We were extremely happy with the finished product. 2 years later, at ground level where the bottom edge of the board was more prone to dampness, I noticed just a little bit of the stuff pealed off when I hit it with the pressure washer (I was pressure washing the patio, and there were some mud splatters on the hot tub as a result.)

I've got nails, I have no concerns of rot my deck gets too much sun, so much that the wood gets very dried out..
Dr. Pizza would you be kind enough to post a picture of your results?

 

[krose]

I used the Behr DeckOver product on our cabin porch. It has been three years and held up well, but it is a pita to apply. It seemed like a good idea but I wouldn't use it again.

The best way to strip is to use a medium like ground corn cobs or powdered glass. I don't know how else you would get that stuff off. Next time we do the cabin I will use Perma-beloved patriot Deck Defense on the porch. Since it is fairly new I have no experience with it but their other products have worked well on the cabin logs.

 

[paperfist]

My aunt used that stuff on her deck (not sure how well she prepped) but it basically peeled off. She paid a contractor to come back and apply it after pressure washing with similar peeling results. Her deck sits under my trees though and get a lot of shade and moss growth so not sure if moisture is the issue with peeling.

I was reading about a new product Cabot has out that is some sort of 2 step stain and poly. Supposedly makes your deck look like furniture quality stains. Not sure if you want to do that much prep work though. It's in the new Family Handyman mag.

 

[Subyman]

Family member used that stuff and it trapped water under the coating. Any imperfection in the surface coat will allow water below the coating and it won't have any way out. I don't care for that stuff.