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rudeguy

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I cant see any errors in your NFC North Predictions, though I will say the bears are due for a playoff win over the pack......at least I hope so.

the bears D looks terrible outside of the dline

Any other season, they might have a shot. But the Packers are going to be a force this year. As long as Rodgers stays healthy, no one in the North can touch them.
 

Sinsear

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Just did a quick perusing of the Jaguars schedule, where exactly do you propose they are getting their 7 wins from?
 

darkewaffle

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OMG U R SO WRONG WTF R U THINKIN

I don't think I trust the Packers to do that well and I kind of feel like the Eagles or Cowboys could overachieve this year. Otherwise seems fair.
 

dawheat

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I'd swap the Cowboys and Redskins but honestly, both teams will go as their QB goes and there are some question marks about them. However with the Dallas D being possibly the worst in the league again, I don't think the boys can hope to keep winning shootouts all year.

I didn't see them in the pre-season but how did Romo and RG3 look? Does Romo look back from his back surgery? Did RG3 look 100%?
 

lupi

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Going over your picks:

In NFC north I'd probably add a game to the iggles and drop one from the girls.

NFC West, drop at least one game from niners.

NFC North, I'd give the lions a game at expense of pack and/or bears. Both have questions on D with bears being just plain shakey and pack have goes going out to injury and returning from injury.

NFC South, Drop one from panthers and falcons going to Bucs.

AFC East, swap the train wreck that is the bills with Jets. Likely drop a game from miami as they are going with a new o line and best performing offensive asset is still hartline.

AFC North, think ravens and shittsburgh will be much mor even in final record than you have.

AFC West, both chefs and bolts overperformed last year and could see either have large swings in record compared to your listing.

AFC South, entire ranking is somewhat laughable and should just be blown up.
 

Deeko

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Just did a quick perusing of the Jaguars schedule, where exactly do you propose they are getting their 7 wins from?

As noted i don't consider game by game schedules when doing this, but the Jags are in the AFC south, a weak division...no reason to think they can't get 3-4 wins there. Also, they play the NFC east and AFC north, neither of which are very strong, and they get Miami at home, which is winnable.

Obviously a lot can go wrong, they're the Jaguars after all, but I see no reason they can't win 7 games with that schedule.
 

Deeko

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We'll see Lupi. I don't get too broken up over a game or two, and there's always at least one division that gets completely shaken up. Given their relative weaknesses and their schedules, the AFC south seems like a plenty good candidate.
 

SP33Demon

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I don't see the Bears coming into Philly and beating them. They couldn't do it last year, and the Iggles are even better this year. In fact, I'd be surprised if the Bears made the playoffs since Cutler isn't a paragon of health and their D has a lot more questions than Philly will ever have. In fact, Philly's D did exceptionally well in the preseason.
 

Deeko

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I don't see the Bears coming into Philly and beating them. They couldn't do it last year, and the Iggles are even better this year. In fact, I'd be surprised if the Bears made the playoffs since Cutler isn't a paragon of health and their D has a lot more questions than Philly will ever have. In fact, Philly's D did exceptionally well in the preseason.

What remains to be seen is, did the Eagles improve? On one hand, they're in their second year with a system and they added a couple of guys. On the other hand, Foles almost has to regress a bit, and they lost Jackson. I think losing Jackson will hurt more than people realize... Even when he wasn't catching the ball, he was demanding attention from the defense.
 

Sinsear

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As noted i don't consider game by game schedules when doing this, but the Jags are in the AFC south, a weak division...no reason to think they can't get 3-4 wins there. Also, they play the NFC east and AFC north, neither of which are very strong, and they get Miami at home, which is winnable.

Obviously a lot can go wrong, they're the Jaguars after all, but I see no reason they can't win 7 games with that schedule.


So you just pulled an random number out of your head is what you're saying?
 

Adrenaline

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I don't see the Bears coming into Philly and beating them. They couldn't do it last year, and the Iggles are even better this year. In fact, I'd be surprised if the Bears made the playoffs since Cutler isn't a paragon of health and their D has a lot more questions than Philly will ever have. In fact, Philly's D did exceptionally well in the preseason.

The preseason means absolutely nothing in the NFL. The Lions went 4-0 in the preseason the year they went 0-16.

That should tell you everything you need to know about the NFL preseason.
 

Deeko

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So you just pulled an random number out of your head is what you're saying?

Did you read the first post where I basically said that's what I do? Or my response to you where I explained why it's perfectly reasonable for the Jags to win 7? I'm assuming you did not.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Just did a quick perusing of the Jaguars schedule, where exactly do you propose they are getting their 7 wins from?

Yeah, that's a surprisingly tough third-place schedule. If I am very optimistic, I could see them beating:

Cleveland
Titans (once)
Texans (once)
Giants

I can't see them winning 3 more games to get 7 wins, though I could see them getting 5 wins.
 

Sinsear

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Yeah, that's a surprisingly tough third-place schedule. If I am very optimistic, I could see them beating:

Cleveland
Titans (once)
Texans (once)
Giants

I can't see them winning 3 more games to get 7 wins, though I could see them getting 5 wins.


Yeah, this thread is a joke. I mean at least put some thought into it. Texans winning divisions with Fitzpatrick? I mean c'mon now.
 

Deeko

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Yeah, this thread is a joke. I mean at least put some thought into it. Texans winning divisions with Fitzpatrick? I mean c'mon now.

So who are you a fan of that you are so upset that I dared put the Jags and Texans so high? Must be Colts, can't see why else this would hurt your feelings so bad.

I already explained to you why I think the Jaguars can win seven games. They're in a crappy division and they play two other crappy divisions, so their schedule is not that hard. Do things have to fall the right way for that to happen? Yes, but that's what preseason picks are about - guessing which way the dominos will fall.

As far as the Texans go, people have surprisingly short memories. Just a year ago there were those picking them to go to the Superbowl, and this years team isn't that different, roster wise. Sure, they are weak at QB, but you know what? They've been weak at QB. Schaub was always overrated, and now their defense has a new stud ready to step in and make an impact.

Teams that make a big swing in a season usually rebound a little, and considering the same things I just said about the Jags (weak division, easy schedule), they certainly could rebound back to the top.

So settle down sport, plenty of thought went into it, if you disagree you may feel free to debate, but if you don't like the thread on premise no one is forcing you here.
 

SP33Demon

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What remains to be seen is, did the Eagles improve? On one hand, they're in their second year with a system and they added a couple of guys. On the other hand, Foles almost has to regress a bit, and they lost Jackson. I think losing Jackson will hurt more than people realize... Even when he wasn't catching the ball, he was demanding attention from the defense.

Yes, the Eagles improved immensely since last year. Maclin/Matthews/Sproles more than makes up for Desean. I would actually posit that losing Bryce Brown will hurt more than Desean.

TE Ertz learning the Chip Kelly year 1 offense was huge, he will be quite the weapon this year (which minimizes Desean even more). Eagles tight ends coach Ted Williams said Zach Ertz is "one of the best route-runners I've ever seen." Roto currently adds:
Long-tabbed as one of the key pieces of the post-DeSean Jackson era in Philly, Ertz has done nothing to squash the hype in camp. Veteran reporter Paul Domowitch goes as far as to mention Ertz in the same breath as Jimmy Graham, Jason Witten and Rob Gronkowski. "Ertz has that kind of ability, that kind of upside," Domowitch says.

On the defensive side of the ball: Brandon Boykin = arguably best slot CB in the league, Cedric Thornton = elite run stopper only behind JJ Watt for 2013, Fletcher Cox was a force against the pass and run in 2013, Bennie Logan flashed signs of brilliance in place of Sopoaga in 2013, Vinnie Curry = 2nd among pass rush productivity among 3-4 DE's, and Trent Cole = still a solid pass rusher. Also, courtesy of PFF Preseason Week 3: Philadelphia Eagles: The Eagles have three of the top four 3-4 defensive ends in Run Stop Percentage. Joe Kruger is in second at 23.5%, Frances Mays at third at 23.3% and Cedric Thornton is in fourth at 16.7%.

Looking at the grades from last year, Philly ranked 14th in run stop D last year but flirted with top 5 status until fatigue and injuries set in. If they stay healthy, look for them to be a top 5 run stop D the entire season.

One disappointment has been 1st rounder Marcus Smith, Philadelphia Eagles, OLB although there is plenty of time for him to learn.
Grade: -5.5
Snaps: 146
Analysis: Console yourself with this Eagles fans; with Trent Cole, Connor Barwin and Brandon Graham you can afford for Smith to take his time to develop. Seven tackles across three games (with two misses) and just three hurries despite rushing the passer 45 times. He’s been very quiet so far.

LB pass rush and safety play are Philly's main defensive weaknesses. However, S Nate Allen (named to PFF Preseason Starters Team), S Earl Wolff (named to PFF Preseason Second Team Honorable Mention) and LB Brandon Graham (named to PFF Preseason Second Team) performed great in preseason so we'll see how they do in regular season play. To say Philly is better than last year is an understatement.

In all seriousness, the 2014 Eagles are a team that has the potential to go all the way if Allen, Wolff, and Graham can build off of their preseason defensive success.
 
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Deeko

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I think you are still underestimating the impact Desean had on the offense, and I fully agree with the earlier poster that preseason stats are largely meaningless. They added some role players on defense, sure, but let's not forget just how bad their defense looked at times last year... Role players alone don't turn that into an elite unit.
 

Sinsear

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So who are you a fan of that you are so upset that I dared put the Jags and Texans so high? Must be Colts, can't see why else this would hurt your feelings so bad.

I already explained to you why I think the Jaguars can win seven games. They're in a crappy division and they play two other crappy divisions, so their schedule is not that hard. Do things have to fall the right way for that to happen? Yes, but that's what preseason picks are about - guessing which way the dominos will fall.

As far as the Texans go, people have surprisingly short memories. Just a year ago there were those picking them to go to the Superbowl, and this years team isn't that different, roster wise. Sure, they are weak at QB, but you know what? They've been weak at QB. Schaub was always overrated, and now their defense has a new stud ready to step in and make an impact.

Teams that make a big swing in a season usually rebound a little, and considering the same things I just said about the Jags (weak division, easy schedule), they certainly could rebound back to the top.

So settle down sport, plenty of thought went into it, if you disagree you may feel free to debate, but if you don't like the thread on premise no one is forcing you here.



Jets fan. And i'm not gonna make any bold predictions or commentary about them except to say you really nailed the Jets prediction last year. Nailed it.
 

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Yes, the Eagles improved immensely since last year. Maclin/Matthews/Sproles more than makes up for Desean. I would actually say losing Bryce Brown will hurt more than Desean.

Ertz learning the Chip Kelly year 1 offense was huge, he will be quite the weapon this year which minimizes Desean even more.

Jackson was 2nd in the NFL in plays longer than 20 yards. Philly was top in the league with plays longer than 20 yards and Jackson accounted for over 25% of them.

You don't replace that with a tight end and a perennially injured possession receiver.
 

rudeguy

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to be fair: I BLASTED Deeko last year over his Lions prediction. He was way closer than I was on their final record.
 

Zargon

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Any other season, they might have a shot. But the Packers are going to be a force this year. As long as Rodgers stays healthy, no one in the North can touch them.

based on what? yeah they have Lacy and Nelson, and nothing else on offense of note, and no safeties(just like the bears)

we will see how Peppers does under Capers
 

Deeko

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Jets fan. And i'm not gonna make any bold predictions or commentary about them except to say you really nailed the Jets prediction last year. Nailed it.

You seem like you're being sarcastic but I'm not really sure why, they were 8-8 after some serious overachieving (I believe Bill Barnwell noted their record was 2.4 wins above expected, based on points scored and strength of schedule, highest on the league)... So that's not such a far cry from my 5 win pick where I noted they are no longer a contender. They weren't.
 
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