Defending the PS3

[fs5]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Have you played Forza? I'm not a car video game fan but from what I've heard Forza is as good if not better than GT. Not sure when it is due for the 360 though.

no I haven't but I've heard car nuts that Forza doesn't even come close to GT. And I'm a car nut... I'll care about little things like the 350z didn't come in yellow until 2005 or that the Integra Type-R has 5 lug nuts instead of 4.

 

[amol]

Originally posted by: fs5

Originally posted by: Wapp

Originally posted by: michaels
I own a 360 and a PS3 so I have no fanboy bias, the 360 is a superior machine for the money.

I own none of the next gen consoles so I have no fanboy bias, the Wii is the shiz for the moneys.

Wii is awesome except it maxes out at 480p

Gameplay != Graphics!

and plays neither of the high def dvd formats.

Good, I'm not paying for speculative crap, I'm paying for a fun game system.

 

[michaels]

Gt was my sole reason to own a PS2, then along came Forza, I then sold my PS2. It's sad when a part 1 of a series brings more to the table than a part 4.

 

[QED]

in what ways is the PS3 online game play inferior to Xbox Live?

I have a PS3, but I haven't been online on either system, so I'm a little curious...

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: fs5

Originally posted by: Wapp

Originally posted by: michaels
I own a 360 and a PS3 so I have no fanboy bias, the 360 is a superior machine for the money.

I own none of the next gen consoles so I have no fanboy bias, the Wii is the shiz for the moneys.

Wii is awesome except it maxes out at 480p and plays neither of the high def dvd formats.

Who cares if it doesn't play either of the formats? In short time a dual-format player will be like $50.

 

[amol]

Originally posted by: fs5

Originally posted by: Amol
Uh, how is Microsoft a generation ahead? Playstation 2 had "online play." Microsoft just initially implemented their online play better and have a better start for this generation.

no it didn't. That's a joke. It had the worst online support ever so I'm not even going to count it. Almost like saying Gamecube had online play just because it had a modem add-on.

If they supported it and it was bad, they still supported it! How can you not count it?

 

[fs5]

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
I've read that MGS is not going to be an exlusive anymore....anyone else read this?

I haven't. where did you read this? I know MGS3 went to xbox after a year. I know virtua fighter 5 is not longer an exclusive.

 

[igowerf]

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
I've read that MGS is not going to be an exlusive anymore....anyone else read this?

I've heard about this too. I've heard about a couple PS3 exclusives being ported to other systems like MSG, GTA, and Dragon Quest.

 

[amol]

Originally posted by: michaels
Gt was my sole reason to own a PS2, then along came Forza, I then sold my PS2. It's sad when a part 1 of a series brings more to the table than a part 4.

I bought my PS2 for GTA:SA. It came out a while later on XBOX with better graphics. Then I bought GT4. Forza came out around the time I bought it with better gameplay.

Owned

 

[fs5]

Originally posted by: Amol

Originally posted by: fs5

Originally posted by: Amol
Uh, how is Microsoft a generation ahead? Playstation 2 had "online play." Microsoft just initially implemented their online play better and have a better start for this generation.

no it didn't. That's a joke. It had the worst online support ever so I'm not even going to count it. Almost like saying Gamecube had online play just because it had a modem add-on.

If they supported it and it was bad, they still supported it! How can you not count it?

I don't know why you're arguing. I already said Xbox live is way better than Playstation network and I already said microsoft is 1 gen ahead of sony.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: igowerf

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
I've read that MGS is not going to be an exlusive anymore....anyone else read this?

I've heard about this too. I've heard about a couple PS3 exclusives being ported to other systems like MSG, GTA, and Dragon Quest.

MGS being ported to other systems is a rumor right now. The PS3 has lost other exclusives like Virtua Fighter and Armored Core. The next Dragon Quest is now a DS exclusive.

 

[TheSiege]

Originally posted by: QED


in what ways is the PS3 online game play inferior to Xbox Live?

I have a PS3, but I haven't been online on either system, so I'm a little curious...

go play XBL its the bees knees. Nothing will ever compare.
bottom line, MS is a software company and can make superior software with their eyes shut. while sony is a hardware company and we all know that superior hardware != superior console. or else xbox would have sold more then PS2.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: michaels
I own a 360 and a PS3 so I have no fanboy bias, the 360 is a superior machine for the money.

yes you do. you are a fanboy of those 2 systems and nothing else

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: JS80
My friend had a Neo Geo when I was in 6th grade.

He must have been the baddest, and richest kid in town because that thing was $600 and $200 PER GAME. I know, I drooled over it every time I walked by it.

And let me tell you, that was $600 BACK THEN.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: fs5

Originally posted by: Wapp

Originally posted by: michaels
I own a 360 and a PS3 so I have no fanboy bias, the 360 is a superior machine for the money.

I own none of the next gen consoles so I have no fanboy bias, the Wii is the shiz for the moneys.

Wii is awesome except it maxes out at 480p and plays neither of the high def dvd formats.

so?

 

[amol]

Originally posted by: fs5

Originally posted by: Amol

Originally posted by: fs5

Originally posted by: Amol
Uh, how is Microsoft a generation ahead? Playstation 2 had "online play." Microsoft just initially implemented their online play better and have a better start for this generation.

no it didn't. That's a joke. It had the worst online support ever so I'm not even going to count it. Almost like saying Gamecube had online play just because it had a modem add-on.

If they supported it and it was bad, they still supported it! How can you not count it?

I already said microsoft is 1 gen ahead of sony.

How is MS 1 generation ahead of Sony? Both had sixth-generation consoles (PS2 and XBOX). Both of these had online functionality. Now, both companies have seventh-generation consoles (PS3 and XBOX360). Both of these have online functionality. I fail to see how MS is "1 gen ahead."

Edit: for clarity

 

[michaels]

Umm it's 2006

 

[AbAbber2k]

Originally posted by: fs5
1) as long as the ps3 dominates japan sales it's going to have game publishers behind it.

So you define "dominating" a market as having only 70% the total sales as your biggest competitor? Riiiight. Not to mention you completely ignore non-Japanese markets.

As for the rest. HD-DVD is better for the time being and is gaining more support while BR seems to be stagnating. Japanese game publishers still publish for the Wii and some on the Xbox 360. So?

And I could give a fvck about the exclusives you listed. FF has been dead to me since X (started downhill with VIII), I never liked the GT series... MGS is the ONLY exclusive worth mentioning... except that rumor has it it will no longer be exclusive.

You fail.

 

[wetcat007]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: fs5
When did $ony bashing become cool?

When Sony execs started to make a bunch of wild ass claims and hype, the lies, the delays, the shortages...etc etc

Don't forget sony rootkits!

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
And I could give a fvck about the exclusives you listed. FF has been dead to me since X (started downhill with VIII), I never liked the GT series... MGS is the ONLY exclusive worth mentioning... except that rumor has it it will no longer be exclusive.

You fail.

They also have series like Jak, Ratchet & Clank, God of War, etc... They really do have some great IPs available. Whether they are your types of games or not is irrelevant overall, they are still great games.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Amol

Originally posted by: fs5

Originally posted by: Amol

Originally posted by: fs5

Originally posted by: Amol
Uh, how is Microsoft a generation ahead? Playstation 2 had "online play." Microsoft just initially implemented their online play better and have a better start for this generation.

no it didn't. That's a joke. It had the worst online support ever so I'm not even going to count it. Almost like saying Gamecube had online play just because it had a modem add-on.

If they supported it and it was bad, they still supported it! How can you not count it?

I already said microsoft is 1 gen ahead of sony.

How is MS 1 generation ahead of Sony? Both had sixth-generation consoles (PS2 and XBOX). Both of these had online functionality. Now, both companies have seventh-generation console (PS3 and XBOX360). I fail to see how MS is "1 gen ahead."

MS is at least 1 gen ahead in the online department. PS3 games are being released without online functionality because the online libraries just aren't there. Every 360 game has some sort of online functionality...even the dedicated single-player ones like Oblivion.

 

[fs5]

Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
So you define "dominating" a market as having only 70% the total sales as your biggest competitor? Riiiight. Not to mention you completely ignore non-Japanese markets.

selling 70k versus 17k is dominating. Selling roughly 4 times the amount of your competitor is dominating

As for the rest. HD-DVD is better for the time being and is gaining more support while BR seems to be stagnating.

define better because right now it's a tie if anything

Japanese game publishers still publish for the Wii and some on the Xbox 360. So?

And I could give a fvck about the exclusives you listed. FF has been dead to me since X (started downhill with VIII), I never liked the GT series... MGS is the ONLY exclusive worth mentioning... except that rumor has it it will no longer be exclusive.

Good for you because I said I like those games. You fail at reading my post. :roll:

 

[fs5]

Originally posted by: Amol
How is MS 1 generation ahead of Sony? Both had sixth-generation consoles (PS2 and XBOX). Both of these had online functionality. Now, both companies have seventh-generation consoles (PS3 and XBOX360). Both of these have online functionality. I fail to see how MS is "1 gen ahead."

Edit: for clarity

I fail to see why you're arguing. 1 gen ahead, same gen...
XBOX ONLINE > PS3 ONLINE I'm arguing FOR YOU. wtf.

 

[amol]

Originally posted by: fs5
selling 70k versus 17k is dominating. Selling roughly 4 times the amount of your competitor is dominating

Hardware sales for Japan December 11th - 17th

You're looking at 7 days of sale. We're looking at total sales.

As for the rest. HD-DVD is better for the time being and is gaining more support while BR seems to be stagnating.

define better because right now it's a tie if anything

HD-DVD is cheaper to make for companies. That's the only advantage I know, I'm sure there are more (as there are some disadvantages).

 

[amol]

Originally posted by: fs5

Originally posted by: Amol
How is MS 1 generation ahead of Sony? Both had sixth-generation consoles (PS2 and XBOX). Both of these had online functionality. Now, both companies have seventh-generation consoles (PS3 and XBOX360). Both of these have online functionality. I fail to see how MS is "1 gen ahead."

Edit: for clarity

I fail to see why you're arguing. 1 gen ahead, same gen...
XBOX ONLINE > PS3 ONLINE I'm arguing FOR YOU. wtf.

Yes, but you're arguing that the reason for this is because Sony is 1 gen behind and that they can catch up. They can't!