It's the games. They have really wacky taste and publishers there just don't like MS because it's a US based company.
Originally posted by: Quintox
Why don't the Japanese like MS consoles? 360 is the best of all 3 IMO
Originally posted by: ElFenix
i wouldn't count too human, that thing has been in development almost as long as forever. it was supposed to come out for gamecube ages and ages ago.
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: hans030390
To clear things up, MGS4 is NOT coming out for the 360. That's been established a looong time ago.
Since no one seems to really know that, it's hard to take most of this thread as credible.
Anyways, the only thing going for the 360 now is GoW and Halo 3. Honestly, that's all anyone cares about. It also had a crappy launch. From what I've heard, online is excellent, but it costs money (though it's reasonable).
The PS3 has Resistance right now (blows any launch 360 game away), and it's excellent. Other than that, it also had a crappy launch. But, the system has an extremely promising line up with GT, FF, MGS, etc. Online is actually pretty good with PS3. Sure, the PS3 store has slow downloads, but for being brand new and also free, that's expected. Playing Resistance online is fast and easy. There's always people to play with, and I've never seen any lag. For being free, that's great.
Whether or not Blu-Ray lives (it's technically more impressive, but that doesn't matter), the PS3 games will still benefit from the extra space. I'm sure you'll see that put to good use within a couple years. Still, I enjoy being able to watch Blu-Ray movies on the PS3, because they are awesome. The 360 does not benefit from anything more than the now small capacity DVD. That's fine for now, but I think the extra space will get at it later. And the HD-DVD add on, it's nice that it's optional, but they'd get more out of the system if they put that towards games.
I've played all 3 of the new systems. Honestly, I think the Wii is cool, but it only has Zelda. If anything, it will only be worth having for cool features (controller, downloading old games, features like forcast, etc). The 360 is impressive (and has better online), but no games have really made it worth buying except GoW (and eventually Halo 3). With more support though, it has a promising future. The PS3 also has a promising future, with the Blu-Ray, motion sensing (Wii is a lot better there though), exclusive titles, etc. Playing Resistance and the Motorstorm demo is great.
Honestly, they're all good systems. Personally I think the PS3 will end up with the best sales. I personally enjoy the PS3 more than the other systems, but that's just me. I think too many people have these weird negative feelings towards Sony and PS3...just grow up and accept all three consoles. If you can't, well that's just more fun for me.
Let's REALLY clear things up:
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/17/heigh...etal-gear-solid-4-not-a-ps3-exclusive/
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/751/751496p1.html (Dec. 18, 2006)
Let's see, should we believe a bias opinion on ATOT, or Eelctronic Gaming Monthly and IGN?
Games: You can sit there and talk about a "promising lineup" for the PS3 all you want. You may want to take a moment to research the Xbox 360 upcoming games. John Woo Stranglehold, Lost Planet, Timeshift, Forza 2, Halo 3, Assassin's Creed, Halo Wars, CrackDown (Cel Shaded 3rd person game from the man behind Grand Theft), Mass Effect, Fabel 2, Too Human and Lost Odyseey for 2007.
Not to mention that EGM just announced that Microsoft has created a plan to release Halo 3 - 2007, GOW 2 2008, Halo 4 2008 and so on. They are going to flop the games each year. Interesting plan.
Originally posted by: longhornlump
To complete the picture here is a statement from Konami made shortly after the MGS4 to xbox360 started to cause a stir...
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/18/konami-mgs4-is-exclusive-to-playstation-3-us/
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: longhornlump
To complete the picture here is a statement from Konami made shortly after the MGS4 to xbox360 started to cause a stir...
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/18/konami-mgs4-is-exclusive-to-playstation-3-us/
Here's the actual statement that Komani Europe...
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3155964
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=152210&skip=yes (Original Article)
"Konami has no plans to bring Metal Gear Solid 4 to the Xbox 360 at this time."
What Company PR rep would ever say that.
No one will know until it happens or doesn't happen. But i wouldn't say it's set in stone that it will only be for the PS3. It may be for the launch, but it may also come out for Xbox down the road.
Originally posted by: mchammer
Is it true that the 360s GPU is superior to the one in the PS?
Originally posted by: Amol
You know why people pay for XBL? Because it doesn't suck like Sony's online play.
I'm not a Sony basher
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: fs5
1) as long as the ps3 dominates japan sales it's going to have game publishers behind it. http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/only-in-ja...japanese-hardware-sales-too-223978.php
Hardware sales for Japan December 11th - 17th
- Wii - 108,237
- PlayStation 3 - 70,942
- Xbox 360 - 17,168
I like japanese game publishers (Square, Konami, Capcom, Sega, etc) therefore I would want the console they're probably going to develop for.
2) High def DVD player (Blu-ray!) Cheaper (and arguably better picture quality) than any stand alone blu-ray player. Same price as a 360 + HD-DVD. Let's not talk about the format war here.
3) Free online play, even though it pales in comparison to Xbox live by far it's still free.
4) Still has exclusives such as FF13, MGS, and GT.
Don't get me wrong, I think 360 is a great system. I'd get one if had the money for both but there's a lot of sony bashing here. Wasn't it cool just a few years ago to hate on M$? When did $ony bashing become cool?
I've read that MGS is not going to be an exlusive anymore....anyone else read this?
Originally posted by: Eeezee
Originally posted by: Amol
You know why people pay for XBL? Because it doesn't suck like Sony's online play.
I'm not a Sony basher
no doubt about it, wii has a strong lineup coupled with a cheap entry fee. Right now the wii wins on that alone but once the games start flowing for ps3/xbox I'm not so sure it can keep pace due to hardware alone.Originally posted by: Dritnul
PS3's dont sell for ****** in america though we had 4 come in today (60 gigs) we sold one in 12 hours and we'll have 3 when we open tmrw
in an average day we have about 20 ppl asking if we got a shipment of Wii's
and maybe 3ppl a week asking for PS3's
then again if u cant sell it for a profit on Ebay why buy one
I dont have the link but apparently only 2/7 PS3s were bought to be played the other 5/7 were sold on ebay :S
http://nexgenwars.com/stolen from xboxscene
Xbox 360: 9.23m (nexgenwars.com) | 7.74m (vgcharts.org)
PS3: 0.82m (nexgenwars.com) | 1.18m (vgcharts.org)
Wii: 2.03m (nexgenwars.com) | 3.19m (vgcharts.org)
Originally posted by: ntdz
Sony's pockets are inside out right now. They lost money last year, while Microsoft raked in billions in profits.
Originally posted by: EmperorIQ
I don't get it, is everyone saying RGUN's comment on michael's post stupid?
Originally posted by: eelw
Originally posted by: ntdz
Sony's pockets are inside out right now. They lost money last year, while Microsoft raked in billions in profits.
Yeah, sure MS as a whole raked in the money. But their gaming division is still in the red. Yes, they may finally be making a small profit on their HW sales, they are still making up for the billions lost since they decided to enter the console market.
Originally posted by: Amol
Everyone has to agree that the online play Sony offers holds NO CANDLE to XBL.
The Japanese in general are very xenophobic when it comes to electronic devices from other countries.Originally posted by: Quintox
Why don't the Japanese like MS consoles? 360 is the best of all 3 IMO
Originally posted by: fs5
here's the worldwide numbers for the systems (2 sources vastly different #'s but you get the idea)
http://nexgenwars.com/stolen from xboxscene
Xbox 360: 9.23m (nexgenwars.com) | 7.74m (vgcharts.org)
PS3: 0.82m (nexgenwars.com) | 1.18m (vgcharts.org)
Wii: 2.03m (nexgenwars.com) | 3.19m (vgcharts.org)
http://www.vgcharts.org/ngwars.php
My argument has and was in the original post Japanese sales numbers
Xbox360 0.30m
PS3 0.48m
and considering Xbox has had close to a year head start... it's not looking good for them in japan. Worldwide, only time will tell since PS3 just barely launched in europe and has only been out for a little more than a month in the US.
:QOriginally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: fs5
here's the worldwide numbers for the systems (2 sources vastly different #'s but you get the idea)
http://nexgenwars.com/stolen from xboxscene
Xbox 360: 9.23m (nexgenwars.com) | 7.74m (vgcharts.org)
PS3: 0.82m (nexgenwars.com) | 1.18m (vgcharts.org)
Wii: 2.03m (nexgenwars.com) | 3.19m (vgcharts.org)
http://www.vgcharts.org/ngwars.php
My argument has and was in the original post Japanese sales numbers
Xbox360 0.30m
PS3 0.48m
and considering Xbox has had close to a year head start... it's not looking good for them in japan. Worldwide, only time will tell since PS3 just barely launched in europe and has only been out for a little more than a month in the US.
DS is outselling PSP 2 to 1 - that's 4 times as many screens!
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: fs5
here's the worldwide numbers for the systems (2 sources vastly different #'s but you get the idea)
http://nexgenwars.com/stolen from xboxscene
Xbox 360: 9.23m (nexgenwars.com) | 7.74m (vgcharts.org)
PS3: 0.82m (nexgenwars.com) | 1.18m (vgcharts.org)
Wii: 2.03m (nexgenwars.com) | 3.19m (vgcharts.org)
http://www.vgcharts.org/ngwars.php
My argument has and was in the original post Japanese sales numbers
Xbox360 0.30m
PS3 0.48m
and considering Xbox has had close to a year head start... it's not looking good for them in japan. Worldwide, only time will tell since PS3 just barely launched in europe and has only been out for a little more than a month in the US.
DS is outselling PSP 2 to 1 - that's 4 times as many screens!
Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
Originally posted by: EmperorIQ
I don't get it, is everyone saying RGUN's comment on michael's post stupid?
Kelvrick and me certainly were, I can't speak for everyone else.
Re-read RGUN's reply and notice that the knee-jerk sarcastic response bears no relation to what michaels actually said.
Originally posted by: michaels
Gt was my sole reason to own a PS2, then along came Forza, I then sold my PS2. It's sad when a part 1 of a series brings more to the table than a part 4.