Defending the PS3

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: fs5
edit: IGN names it best console of the year. I'm not saying IGN is the end all source but ..
http://bestof.ign.com/2006/gear/1.html

That's just ridiculous. PS2 or Wii should be consoles of the year.

 

[ryan256]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: ryan256

Originally posted by: fs5
When did $ony bashing become cool?

rootkits..... nuf said

yea rootkits, excessive hype, love of drm, pushing proprietary formats etc... sony = riaa+mpaa! say what you will about microsoft, but they aren't involved in sueing customers for $150,000 a song.

All reasons I will never again own a Sony product and will also steer friends away from them as well.

 

[fallenangel99]

Sony started to go downhill when the white man became the CEO.

 

[Wheatmaster]

IMO in a couple of years when sony's exclusives (if there are still exclusives by then) come out, the system will be a long sleeper hit.

 

[RMSistight]

All the consoles graphically sucks compared to the 8800 GTX. Don't get me wrong. I love my Wii, but my video card is just vastly superior to any gaming machine right now. And don't give me that "oh it's too expensive, etc" BS. Just admit to the fact that the GTX IS graphically superior regardess of cost.

It's too bad gaming companies don't release games for PC. All these people tout about how FF or MGS looks great on the PS3 or another system and whatnot. Release those kinds of games on PC with the GTX and there is NO comparison.

I personally think it's a win-win situation for the game companies to release games on PC and consoles. If people don't have the money, they'll go for a game console to play the game. But if people have superior PC gaming machines (like me), they'll buy it for the PC.

And just to clear things up: I'm not rich nor am I spoiled. I work two jobs to support my PC gaming habit and put myself through college. There are always noobs out there that immediately fire back to me about how I'm rich or daddy is paying for everything. I pay for all my sh!t and proud of it.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: RMSistight
I personally think it's a win-win situation for the game companies to release games on PC and consoles. If people don't have the money, they'll go for a game console to play the game. But if people have superior PC gaming machines (like me), they'll buy it for the PC.

This is what MS is doing with the 360 and their "Games for Windows" initiative (plus XNA). Of course, by doing this people bash the 360 by saying "All the 360 games are available on the PC!"

 

[RMSistight]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: RMSistight
I personally think it's a win-win situation for the game companies to release games on PC and consoles. If people don't have the money, they'll go for a game console to play the game. But if people have superior PC gaming machines (like me), they'll buy it for the PC.

This is what MS is doing with the 360 and their "Games for Windows" initiative (plus XNA). Of course, by doing this people bash the 360 by saying "All the 360 games are available on the PC!"

But the problem is that there is no simultaneous release of games for both platforms. For example, Halo didn't come out for PC until TWO years later after Xbox release. WTF is that. And now Halo 2 is only for Vista after THREE years of the Xbox release. They need to release them at the same time. And plus, even if people say "All the 360 games are available on the PC", they need to have a superior PC machine to play them anyways.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: RMSistight

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: RMSistight
I personally think it's a win-win situation for the game companies to release games on PC and consoles. If people don't have the money, they'll go for a game console to play the game. But if people have superior PC gaming machines (like me), they'll buy it for the PC.

This is what MS is doing with the 360 and their "Games for Windows" initiative (plus XNA). Of course, by doing this people bash the 360 by saying "All the 360 games are available on the PC!"

But the problem is that there is no simultaneous release of games for both platforms. For example, Halo didn't come out for PC until TWO years later after Xbox release. WTF is that. And now Halo 2 is only for Vista after THREE years of the Xbox release. They need to release them at the same time. And plus, even if people say "All the 360 games are available on the PC", they need to have a superior PC machine to play them anyways.

Rainbow 6, GRAW, Shadowrun, LOTR:BFME II. It is happening but there will still be some games like Halo that will be console exclusive.

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: Wheatmaster
IMO in a couple of years when sony's exclusives (if there are still exclusives by then) come out, the system will be a long sleeper hit.

Sleeper?!?!

The PS3 is the antithesis of a "sleeper" console. C'mon now...

That's like saying the Yankees are the "sleeper team" to win the World Series next year.

Like the Yankees, the PS3 is overhyped, expensive, and disappointing.

 

[hans030390]

To clear things up, MGS4 is NOT coming out for the 360. That's been established a looong time ago.

Since no one seems to really know that, it's hard to take most of this thread as credible.

Anyways, the only thing going for the 360 now is GoW and Halo 3. Honestly, that's all anyone cares about. It also had a crappy launch. From what I've heard, online is excellent, but it costs money (though it's reasonable).

The PS3 has Resistance right now (blows any launch 360 game away), and it's excellent. Other than that, it also had a crappy launch. But, the system has an extremely promising line up with GT, FF, MGS, etc. Online is actually pretty good with PS3. Sure, the PS3 store has slow downloads, but for being brand new and also free, that's expected. Playing Resistance online is fast and easy. There's always people to play with, and I've never seen any lag. For being free, that's great.

Whether or not Blu-Ray lives (it's technically more impressive, but that doesn't matter), the PS3 games will still benefit from the extra space. I'm sure you'll see that put to good use within a couple years. Still, I enjoy being able to watch Blu-Ray movies on the PS3, because they are awesome. The 360 does not benefit from anything more than the now small capacity DVD. That's fine for now, but I think the extra space will get at it later. And the HD-DVD add on, it's nice that it's optional, but they'd get more out of the system if they put that towards games.

I've played all 3 of the new systems. Honestly, I think the Wii is cool, but it only has Zelda. If anything, it will only be worth having for cool features (controller, downloading old games, features like forcast, etc). The 360 is impressive (and has better online), but no games have really made it worth buying except GoW (and eventually Halo 3). With more support though, it has a promising future. The PS3 also has a promising future, with the Blu-Ray, motion sensing (Wii is a lot better there though), exclusive titles, etc. Playing Resistance and the Motorstorm demo is great.

Honestly, they're all good systems. Personally I think the PS3 will end up with the best sales. I personally enjoy the PS3 more than the other systems, but that's just me. I think too many people have these weird negative feelings towards Sony and PS3...just grow up and accept all three consoles. If you can't, well that's just more fun for me.

 

[Flashram]

The IGN article says "Best NEW Console of 2006", not "Best Console of 2006". Your thread title (summary) is misleading.

 

[dirtboy]

The fact you had to start a thread defending the PS3 and by throwing out legitimate arguements against it, proves it isn't worth the price.

 

[fs5]

Originally posted by: dirtboy
The fact you had to start a thread defending the PS3 and by throwing out legitimate arguements against it, proves it isn't worth the price.

what did I throw out?

 

[oogabooga]

Originally posted by: fs5

Originally posted by: dirtboy
The fact you had to start a thread defending the PS3 and by throwing out legitimate arguements against it, proves it isn't worth the price.

what did I throw out?

hrmm.. one step back, wtf does that sentance mean

 

[HardcoreRobot]

ps3 is all hype

once it dies down there will be nothing left except sore fanboys

 

[mad0maxx]

I own a 360 and Wii... two down one more to go! Wheeee!!!

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: hans030390
To clear things up, MGS4 is NOT coming out for the 360. That's been established a looong time ago.

Actually, it was never 'established'. The spokeperson said something along the lines of 'Konami currently has no plans...' Note, 'currently'. One day you will learn to read the truth in business speak.

MGS will be released on the 360 at some point.

 

[amol]

OP, IGN named PS3 best NEW console of 2006. XBox360 wasn't considered because it was released 2005. Changed the title summary because it obviously shows your bias.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Flashram
The IGN article says "Best NEW Console of 2006", not "Best Console of 2006". Your thread title (summary) is misleading.

lol, i can assure you that maybe 2 people in this thread, at the most, actually read the article.

As far as the IGN article is concerned, i point you toward this last paragraph:

Judging the consoles based upon a broad perspective that includes software now available and coming in the future an entirely different argument could be formulated. However, from a hardware perspective, the PS3 is by far the more interesting console. Though the launch software hasn't blown anyone away, the 360's launch titles were equally unimpressive, and the system will certainly mature. Sony's embrace of the PS3 as a computer rather than just a console, and the availability of supported Linux distributions for the console will also develop and will likely bear entirely unexpected fruit in future.

They're not awarding a 'best console of 2006' title, because if you actually read the article they basically say that the 2nd gen 360 games are better looking/more polished than the 1st gen PS3 stuff, and most people seem to agree on that, but the 360 has been around for quite a long time now, and i don't know about you, but i expect titles to become more polished for a console the further into it's lifespan you get...they're awarding a 'best new console of 2006'.

Personally i find the PS3 interesting for it's hardware potential; Cell seems to have great potential if developers can get their minds around it's programming 'quirks' when compared to traditional 'complete core' processors, Blu-Ray seems to have the technical edge over HD-DVD (and PS3 will ensure a vast user base), and the linux support might actually get me playing with linux at last

You'll note that i said 'personally' in there, which means that i'm well aware most people don't care about hardware potential, or that it can run linux, or indeed anything other than the quality of the games here and now, and if i were to look at it from that perspective, the 360 is the better console right now...and unarguably the best console of 2005

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: fs5

Originally posted by: Amol
You know why people pay for XBL? Because it doesn't suck like Sony's online play.

When they unleashed a console more expensive than my first computer!

lets just give it time, Sony is behind with online play that's for sure. Microsoft has a 1 gen head start but Sony's pockets are just as deep as Microsoft's. ( at least I think )

And like I said, you're getting a blu-ray player and a console. Same price as 360 + HD-DVD combo.

Sony's pockets are inside out right now. They lost money last year, while Microsoft raked in billions in profits.

 

[EmperorIQ]

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: RGUN

Originally posted by: michaels
Gt was my sole reason to own a PS2, then along came Forza, I then sold my PS2. It's sad when a part 1 of a series brings more to the table than a part 4.

Lol, quite possibly the stupidest thing Ive ever read on here. So you're saying Forza shouldnt have learned from its competitors and should have made a game equivalent to the first GT and worked up from there?

Quite possibly the stupidest job reading a post on here?

His post is saying Forza 1 > GT4. Notice how he says he got the PS2 for GT, but then sold it when forza came out? He SOLD the ps2.

It burnnnnssss!!!!!!

I don't get it, is everyone saying RGUN's comment on michael's post stupid? I was agreeing with RGUN. From what I've gathered in michael's post, it sounded like he was disappointed at the fact that Forza 1 is better than GT4. Then say that its sad that a part 1 is better than a part 4. That doesn't make sense to me because Forza 1 came out roughly the same time as GT4 why wouldn't it try to be better than it and learn from the mistakes of the GT series to make a better product? So basicallly, michael was implying that forza 1 should be only as good as gt1. Its only sad when a game developed a year prior brings more to the table than a game developed now.

 

[foghorn67]

Boasting about console sales in Japan is retarded.

 

[Lumathix]

Just returned my PS3.
Something was borked with it's Blu-Ray player
It played games ok, but after getting through about half of the movie that came with it, it stopped working all together.

 

[Q]

Why don't the Japanese like MS consoles? 360 is the best of all 3 IMO

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: hans030390
To clear things up, MGS4 is NOT coming out for the 360. That's been established a looong time ago.

Since no one seems to really know that, it's hard to take most of this thread as credible.

Anyways, the only thing going for the 360 now is GoW and Halo 3. Honestly, that's all anyone cares about. It also had a crappy launch. From what I've heard, online is excellent, but it costs money (though it's reasonable).

The PS3 has Resistance right now (blows any launch 360 game away), and it's excellent. Other than that, it also had a crappy launch. But, the system has an extremely promising line up with GT, FF, MGS, etc. Online is actually pretty good with PS3. Sure, the PS3 store has slow downloads, but for being brand new and also free, that's expected. Playing Resistance online is fast and easy. There's always people to play with, and I've never seen any lag. For being free, that's great.

Whether or not Blu-Ray lives (it's technically more impressive, but that doesn't matter), the PS3 games will still benefit from the extra space. I'm sure you'll see that put to good use within a couple years. Still, I enjoy being able to watch Blu-Ray movies on the PS3, because they are awesome. The 360 does not benefit from anything more than the now small capacity DVD. That's fine for now, but I think the extra space will get at it later. And the HD-DVD add on, it's nice that it's optional, but they'd get more out of the system if they put that towards games.

I've played all 3 of the new systems. Honestly, I think the Wii is cool, but it only has Zelda. If anything, it will only be worth having for cool features (controller, downloading old games, features like forcast, etc). The 360 is impressive (and has better online), but no games have really made it worth buying except GoW (and eventually Halo 3). With more support though, it has a promising future. The PS3 also has a promising future, with the Blu-Ray, motion sensing (Wii is a lot better there though), exclusive titles, etc. Playing Resistance and the Motorstorm demo is great.

Honestly, they're all good systems. Personally I think the PS3 will end up with the best sales. I personally enjoy the PS3 more than the other systems, but that's just me. I think too many people have these weird negative feelings towards Sony and PS3...just grow up and accept all three consoles. If you can't, well that's just more fun for me.

Let's REALLY clear things up:

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/17/heigh...etal-gear-solid-4-not-a-ps3-exclusive/

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/751/751496p1.html (Dec. 18, 2006)

Let's see, should we believe a bias opinion on ATOT, or Eelctronic Gaming Monthly and IGN?

Games: You can sit there and talk about a "promising lineup" for the PS3 all you want. You may want to take a moment to research the Xbox 360 upcoming games. John Woo Stranglehold, Lost Planet, Timeshift, Forza 2, Halo 3, Assassin's Creed, Halo Wars, CrackDown (Cel Shaded 3rd person game from the man behind Grand Theft), Mass Effect, Fabel 2, Too Human and Lost Odyseey for 2007.

Not to mention that EGM just announced that Microsoft has created a plan to release Halo 3 - 2007, GOW 2 2008, Halo 4 2008 and so on. They are going to flop the games each year. Interesting plan.