Degredation of the farming industry.

skreet

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My girl is taking a class at school on health and their teacher is a bit of an organic food nut. She showed these videos to the class, backed with tons of research. I didn't even know any of this existed, anyone else?

"The Meatrix":
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IMOAaciER6o

"The Meatrix II":
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VAN6G8sBNIE

THE CORPORATION [17/23] Unsettling Accounts:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eZkDikRLQrw

I used to like Fox News.. I can't believe this actually happened. The case was thrown out of court because "It is not illegal to falsify news".. nice.
 

Moonbeam

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The Monsanto Fox case is amazing. I buy organic as much as I can including organic milk.
 

piasabird

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Like most liberal concepts that is probably a bit simplistic. So you plan on selling your house and starting a local farm?
 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: piasabird
Like most liberal concepts that is probably a bit simplistic. So you plan on selling your house and starting a local farm?

I generally live off a 30ft x 6ft garden 5-6 months of the year. If I would 'can' I could almost make it year round. I trade extra tomatoes, peppers, squash and beans for corn, strawberries, melons, etc ...
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: piasabird
Like most liberal concepts that is probably a bit simplistic. So you plan on selling your house and starting a local farm?

I generally live off a 30ft x 6ft garden 5-6 months of the year. If I would 'can' I could almost make it year round. I trade extra tomatoes, peppers, squash and beans for corn, strawberries, melons, etc ...

If you have a freezer, that's the way to go. The only thing we can is tomatos and pickles. We freeze corn, peas, green beans, asparagus, pumpkin, zucchini, apples, even grapes, chokecherry, elderberry, strawberries, and plums until we have time to make preserves out of them
 

skreet

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Originally posted by: piasabird
Like most liberal concepts that is probably a bit simplistic. So you plan on selling your house and starting a local farm?

No, unfortunately I am no farmer (Unless I could write a farm in Ruby... hmm). But there are plenty of farms in almost every (sans major cities) community that are being closed down often. Just another reason to spend the extra $$ and patronize your local farms. I read up on RGBH and I can't believe some of the effects they are linking with it. A growth hormone causing young women (girls, actually) to being their periods at ages 8 or 9?! How did this get by the FDA... such a crazy amount of corruption.

 

skreet

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Not bad info, but a bit patronizing for an adult.

I think it's a good way to keep the audience involved, but the target audience is probably children.
 

piasabird

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The funny think is that as I travel around the state of Illinois I dont see this going on. It is not actually happening. Some farms may be getting larger but it looks like just large family farms for the most part. Lots of different kind of farms are pretty large. However, the places I have seen tend not to be enclosed buildings for raising livestock. There may be a few farms like that for raising Turkeys, or chickens.

As far as pigs go, I have driven up the mississippi and missouri rivers and seen all the Pig farms raising their stock out in the open right alongside the road. I just have not seen what they are talking about.

When you eat your thanksgving turkey do you really care how it was raised or do you buy it anyway?

While you can raise lots of vegetable and fruit and berries on your own, in most places it is illegal to have a cow or some pigs.

I think you guys need to take a drive out in the coutry once in a while to actually see how other people live! Do you ever get out of the city at all?
 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: piasabird
The funny think is that as I travel around the state of Illinois I dont see this going on. It is not actually happening. Some farms may be getting larger but it looks like just large family farms for the most part. Lots of different kind of farms are pretty large. However, the places I have seen tend not to be enclosed buildings for raising livestock. There may be a few farms like that for raising Turkeys, or chickens.

As far as pigs go, I have driven up the mississippi and missouri rivers and seen all the Pig farms raising their stock out in the open right alongside the road. I just have not seen what they are talking about.

When you eat your thanksgving turkey do you really care how it was raised or do you buy it anyway?

While you can raise lots of vegetable and fruit and berries on your own, in most places it is illegal to have a cow or some pigs.

I think you guys need to take a drive out in the coutry once in a while to actually see how other people live! Do you ever get out of the city at all?

:shocked:

Please consider educating yourself comcerning the ""Meatrix"". Their premise is 100% correct and does not hype reality at all.

Chciken, turkey and pork products you see in your local grocery in the United States are nearly universally raised, processed and shipped from corporate farms.

The greatest benefit to my state (which is a 'nation-leader') is that maybe something is finally being done with the millions of tons of animal waste that has been historically stored in open lagoons - biomass incinerators.

As wonderful as that sounds, animal waste 'incinerators' would be dirtier than newly-built coal-fired power plants.

Ain't life grand?

PS - Just a little inside tip for yah. All that 'meat' (in the case of hogs in my state, 1 billion pounds worth // chicken and turkey probably in that neighborhood) is processed by persons most likely 'not from around here' in less than perfect circumstances ...

THE CRUELEST CUTS
The human cost of bringing poultry to your table
The Charlotte Disturber

PPS - There are more than 3800 open-pit hog waste lagoons in my state - probably the same for turkey and chickens. Instead of ""The Variety Vacationland"" maybe they should call us ""The Land of 10,000 Waste Lagoons""

 

skreet

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Originally posted by: piasabird
When you eat your thanksgving turkey do you really care how it was raised or do you buy it anyway?

Yes, I'm concerned that it was raised in a factory where disease and fighting was caused by cramped environments. I'm concerned that the next big unstoppable super-bacterial infection may be caused by my delicious meal. I'm not trying to be a radical, but if we keep all of this in the back of our minds forever, it will just get worse.

I think you guys need to take a drive out in the coutry once in a while to actually see how other people live! Do you ever get out of the city at all?

I live in New Hampshire, in a city of about 100,000 people. I am within driving distance of small country towns with farms, but not many of which have any livestock.



 

natto fire

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You used to like Fox News? Seriously?

I know all news organizations are slanted a certain way, but Fox News?
 

skreet

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
what a load of crap

Interesting stance, do you have any facts to back this up? Are all of your 54,385 posts this interesting?
 
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