What a benchmark says about memory latency means nothing - the only thing that matters is real world performance.
Well, we have a real world memory performance synthetic that you can play: Fallout 4. So, it probably does mean something .What a benchmark says about memory latency means nothing - the only thing that matters is real world performance.
It's working fine with Intel doesn't mean that it will work fine with new hardware. Don't act like you have never seen a bug.
Everybody complains about sites like Wcc and then they go act the same way.
yikes if true:
The only thing people are sure of is that there are bios issues from manufacturers other than Asus. There are rapid bios fixes which will probablu occur up to launch time What is so new or dsastrous about this? It always happens with new motherboards. As far as the claim about a hardware problem. There is absolutely ZERO evidence of this. Idiots should not spread unsubstantiated nonsense. I guess there arecalways some shills who want a product failure because of the privileges they may enjoy with a competing product manufacturer, no names mentioned. But this community should not support damaging innuendo which is not supported by fact, but merely by far flung keaps of faith. This is not a religion. It is not a cult. It is engineering science. But shills will be shills. I have seen it before. They need to be brought to -task. When this launch is completed I expect the egg will be on the face of naysayers. Just as it has been up to now.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230986880&postcount=2076
No wonder the NDA is lifted so late. But it also understandable that these teething troubles happens with a new platform. Bugs is going to be ironed out for sure.
The memory issue is clearly very real, the only issue seems to be whether its hardware or software and when it can be fixed.
Regardless reviews will be tainted by this bug.
Seems as though he chose the "throw your toys out of the pram" approach to thread title in response to everyone.Considering the information given, the thread title should not read "problems with the cpu", but rather problems with current mobo bios from vendors.
Edit: since everyone is sensitive to negative rumors i request a mod to delete the thread.
What a benchmark says about memory latency means nothing - the only thing that matters is real world performance.
I and I'm sure many others, are not.Edit: since everyone is sensitive to negative rumors i request a mod to delete the thread.
If you cannot measure latency "properly", it is not lowerEven more so when software cannot properly measure Zen's memory latency yet but It is lower than the competing Intel platform.
So now you are pushing the rumor that the CPU is defective, with no evidence at all.
This is how fake garbage starts and by tomorrow it's a fact on 400 sites.
I meant latency, looncraz is right overall performance should be good, BUT there is defo an issue with latency, this has been leaked months before now, this maybe an issue with bios which will be fixed in time, or it might be a hardware issue that will have to wait till zen+.This is not an "issue". All this is about overclocking memory over the capabilities of the integrated memory controller.
AMD hasn't even announced what speed Ryzen officially supports, but the speed they will advertise will work. If it only supports lower speed with 4 installed DIMMs, that is also normal as stated by somebody else already (it's the same with Intel).
If the official supported speed is 2400, then 3200 only working on some boards and with some modules is not exactly "issue", guys. It is the chip not liking 50% overclocking.
So we can expect better Physics and Prime Number results once the MOBOs are up to scratch.Apparently Asus has confirmed that this is a limitation on individual motherboards and not the CPU, as per usual check your motherboard for compatibility before purchasing. Asus Crosshair still supports 3200 across 4 dimms.
So we can expect better Physics and Prime Number results once the MOBOs are up to scratch.
I doubt many users would care about prime or physics subtests from passmark. We have already seen "Physics" benchmark from 3dMark11 and Ryzen kicks ass . It is a very high IPC core and you really have to chery pick workloads to show it as slow vs latest few Core gens - think FMA/AVX 256b heavy workloads or exclusively ST benchmarks that favor a combo of somewhat higher IPC and higher clock of 7700K.So we can expect better Physics and Prime Number results once the MOBOs are up to scratch.
Err, didn't the quote include from overclockers.co.uk pretty much state that Asus was having issues with their mobo BIOS and would be pushing an update to their stock if not online? It was highlighted in a thread on reddit's AMD board. Z77 and Z170 had their issues in the beginning, especially Z77. I got burned for a while as an early adopter.
It would appear that it wasn't the complete quote ;p
Take from that what you will.
I'm in no real rush. I've gone all this time with my current setup and done just fine. I don't game much, so I'm not too bothered. The 1800X at healthy discount will do wonders for video editing, though. I wonder how it'll handle 4-6K editing. Pretty well, I'd imagine. I can't wait until Naples comes out, though.How on earth you can wait until Q4 I have no idea...
I needed Ryzen last thursday!