Delivery Driver Rips Cross Off Woman's Door

[Incorruptible]

And this wasn't covered by the media? I mean the article you posted in the OP...

It's not getting enough attention, If it was another religion it would be much more media coverage with possible riots and government speaking out. Even the response here is pathetic since people would be outraged if the religion was different.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

It's not getting enough attention, If it was another religion it would be much more media coverage with possible riots and government speaking out. Even the response here is pathetic since people would be outraged if the religion was different.

those poor, poor persecuted christians. maybe some day you'll be able to practice your religion openly, wear your symbols of faith without concern and even have your scriptures placed in prominent government buildings. So persecuted.

 

[WelshBloke]

It's not getting enough attention, If it was another religion it would be much more media coverage with possible riots and government speaking out. Even the response here is pathetic since people would be outraged if the religion was different.

Why is it not getting enough attention? The guy got told off by his work, the take away apologised, no one was injured, the damage probably cost less than a quid and it was a one off rather than a sustained campaign of harassment. You want riots over that?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Why is it not getting enough attention? The guy got told off by his work, the take away apologised, no one was injured, the damage probably cost less than a quid and it was a one off rather than a sustained campaign of harassment. You want riots over that?

don't you understand man? this is a christians being persecuted, CHRISTIANS!!! The correct religious team to be on.

 

[Amused]

Right here you think it's a joke.

Ripping a Cross off is wrong, if it was any other religion the media would be covering it and the politicians would be speaking out.

No, I think framing it as "Christians are persecuted and oppressed in western countries" is a joke.

Tearing down the cross was wrong. But so is trying to use it to claim Christian persecution is a thing.

 

[SP33Demon]

Nope. I don't hate Christians. Exposing the pathetic joke and act of projectionism that is "Christian persecution" in the western world is not hate.

So was this woman getting her cross ripped off her door a pathetic joke and act of projectionism that is "Christian persecution"? If not, why did you post #84 in response to:

This man should be facing charges for what he did and needs to know that this isn't acceptable behaviour. Why haven't the police done anything?Since the victim is Christian nothing will probably happen.

The woman also called the restaurant and they ignored her. The disgusting human being who did this needs to be locked up and also realize this woman helped him earn a livelihood.

Nothing he said was mockable. If you substituted Muslim for Christian all your leftist buddies would be high fiving you and liking the post. You should probably reevaluate your belief system if it's causing such a triggering to the word "Christian" which is just as protected as "Muslim" in this country, last I checked.

 

[thraashman]

For the guy who constantly posts thinking Muslims deserve essentially zero right, it's funny how he wants an excessive response when a Christian is the victim of something petty. He should be charged with the misdemeanor this likely is.

 

[pcgeek11]

That's pretty much exactly what happened.

And that is exactly what should have happened.

All the rest of this in the thread is just stupid.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

And that is exactly what should have happened.

All the rest of this in the thread is just stupid.

Agreed, it’s one of those strange times where we agree.

 

[pcgeek11]

Agreed, it’s one of those strange times where we agree.

It has happened before on rare occasions. I will have to give you your due. 99.999% of the time we have disagreed you are civil about it. I do try and keep it that way myself. It is hard with some posters that I will not name however.

 

[WelshBloke]

Shit. This is getting much too reasonable! Someone say something controversial quick!

 

[Victorian Gray]

Shit. This is getting much too reasonable! Someone say something controversial quick!

Water is wet.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

I guess incorrigible is all into political correctness now. Who saw that coming?

 

[pmv]

I wonder for everybody in this thread who mocks the OP about his Christian beliefs would do the same if he was a muslim?

The OP has never struck me as particularly Christian. His religion seems to be the Church of Perpetual Victimhood. And he seems more anti-Muslim than anything else, seems like he's only pro-Christian insofar as it serves his anti-Muslim purposes.

 

[pmv]

No, I think framing it as "Christians are persecuted and oppressed in western countries" is a joke.

Tearing down the cross was wrong. But so is trying to use it to claim Christian persecution is a thing.

What is a 'thing' is that _some_ Muslims are uneducated and intolerant of difference. And that's a bad thing, but they aren't powerful enough to 'persecute' anyone.

The way I see it, Christians and Muslims in this country both tend to be from ethnic minorities. Most churches round here are either mostly black congretations, or, if Catholic, will have had a big boost from the Polish arrivals.

The 'mainstream' and racial majority population increasingly has very little interest in religion of any kind.

It's probably a good idea to try and avert conflict between different minority communities, so this sort of thing is worthy of keeping an eye on. But not the hysterical contrived victimhood of the OP.

 

[Darwin333]

Small fine and done. No outrage required.

 

[dawp]

Small fine and done. No outrage required.

don't forget who posted this, outrage is the normal state of mind.

 

[WelshBloke]

Small fine and done. No outrage required.

Replace cross and free curry!

 

[TheVrolok]

He's not an impotent spectator. He's abiding by his own rules. He wanted us to have free will, and that means we are free to do wrong as well as right.

I find the free will discussion interesting. Do we have free will? Is your god omniscient? Does your god know what I'm having for lunch today? If so, can I choose not to have it? He's either not omniscient, or I don't have free will, no?

 

[TheVrolok]

You do realize that an omnipotent god means that free will cannot exist. It is a logical impossibility. An omnipotent god is, of course, omniscient. As such it knows the the outcome of everything. If it knows the outcome before it happens, and by his omnipotence creates everything, than logic dictates the outcome of everything is known and thus predetermined.

You saying an omnipotent god exists and created everything, then going on to say there is free will is like the director of a movie or painter of a painting saying the movie or painting has free will.

Cognitive dissonance is a bitch, isn't it?

Damnit, I literally wrote a lesser quality post a second before I saw this. Although I do see your post was completely ignored, not surprising.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

He's not an impotent spectator. He's abiding by his own rules. He wanted us to have free will, and that means we are free to do wrong as well as right.

His own rules are to protect his followers. What part of that is beyond your comprehension?

If god wants someone to be alive and a psycho wants that same person dead, the psycho wins. So what good is god? What good is gods plan? What good is gods promise? What would be the difference if god wasn't there at all? How do you distinguish between a fictional god worshiped by delusional fucktards and one that sits idly by and allows the bad guys to murder his people?

 

[Amused]

Damnit, I literally wrote a lesser quality post a second before I saw this. Although I do see your post was completely ignored, not surprising.

Of course it was ignored. Cognitive dissonance makes people ignore the obvious.

 

[Atreus21]

You do realize that an omnipotent god means that free will cannot exist. It is a logical impossibility. An omnipotent god is, of course, omniscient. As such it knows the the outcome of everything. If it knows the outcome before it happens, and by his omnipotence creates everything, than logic dictates the outcome of everything is known and thus predetermined.

You saying an omnipotent god exists and created everything, then going on to say there is free will is like the director of a movie or painter of a painting saying the movie or painting has free will.

Cognitive dissonance is a bitch, isn't it?

That argument relies on our understanding of time. If God exists outside of time, then he sees our lives not in chronological order but all at once, as a single event.

The fact of his seeing immediately what we are confined to see chronologically doesn't mean he made our choices for us.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Perhaps that deliveryman is actually jesus and the cross triggered him?

 

[WelshBloke]

That argument relies on our understanding of time. If God exists outside of time, then he sees our lives not in chronological order but all at once, as a single event.

The fact of his seeing immediately what we are confined to see chronologically doesn't mean he made our choices for us.

I think that you are slightly missing the point there.
It doesnt matter if he's making our choices for us, just the fact that he knows what our choices will be precludes us having free will.