Dell new 20" wide LCD 2005FPW. Has anyone seen this beast?

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A8dr1aN

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nteresting. The only option in 16:10 for me is 1680x1050. Similarly, the only option under 16:9 is 1600x900. This is with a BFG 6800. What video care are you using?

From what I've read so far concerning the 2005FPW, some additional resolutions will be available after installing the driver that came with the LCD. I couldn't tell you this for sure, and I could be wrong since I don't have this LCD (yet).
 
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Ya just make sure you have installed the driver for the panel, on your monitor page it NEEDS to say 2005fpw.. after that you get a TON more options for resolutions. But in the games those options should be there regardless of what monitor you have installed.
 
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I guess that must be the difference then. Do you also have more desktop resolution choices too? I posted my list in an earlier post.
 

agent2099

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Wow, after reading about you guys tweaking with the resolutions I went and did some expiramenting. I just found out that this monitor will to 1280x1024 with no scalling! This might not come as a suprise to some but I was shocked at the fact that this monitor can effectively do "native" 4x3 resolutions which is great for old 4x3 games. Basically, at the sacrifice of some screen size, your 4x3 games will look pixel by pixel perfect on the 2005fpw.
 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: agent2099
Wow, after reading about you guys tweaking with the resolutions I went and did some expiramenting. I just found out that this monitor will to 1280x1024 with no scalling! This might not come as a suprise to some but I was shocked at the fact that this monitor can effectively do "native" 4x3 resolutions which is great for old 4x3 games. Basically, at the sacrifice of some screen size, your 4x3 games will look pixel by pixel perfect on the 2005fpw.

So, it gives you black horizontal bars or what?
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: agent2099
Wow, after reading about you guys tweaking with the resolutions I went and did some expiramenting. I just found out that this monitor will to 1280x1024 with no scalling! This might not come as a suprise to some but I was shocked at the fact that this monitor can effectively do "native" 4x3 resolutions which is great for old 4x3 games. Basically, at the sacrifice of some screen size, your 4x3 games will look pixel by pixel perfect on the 2005fpw.

1280x1024 is 5:4 (more square), not 4:3. And on high res monitors you should be able to run games at lower resolutions without tearing, just don't have the drivers scale it to fit the entire screen.
 

NeoV

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just installed mine.....looks amazing...going to do some HL2 testing now!
 

agent2099

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Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: agent2099
Wow, after reading about you guys tweaking with the resolutions I went and did some expiramenting. I just found out that this monitor will to 1280x1024 with no scalling! This might not come as a suprise to some but I was shocked at the fact that this monitor can effectively do "native" 4x3 resolutions which is great for old 4x3 games. Basically, at the sacrifice of some screen size, your 4x3 games will look pixel by pixel perfect on the 2005fpw.

So, it gives you black horizontal bars or what?


Yes. For example with 1280x1024, very tiny horizontal black bars, and significant vertical bars.

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Originally posted by: agent2099
Wow, after reading about you guys tweaking with the resolutions I went and did some expiramenting. I just found out that this monitor will to 1280x1024 with no scalling! This might not come as a suprise to some but I was shocked at the fact that this monitor can effectively do "native" 4x3 resolutions which is great for old 4x3 games. Basically, at the sacrifice of some screen size, your 4x3 games will look pixel by pixel perfect on the 2005fpw.

1280x1024 is 5:4 (more square), not 4:3.

Umm I think most people saw my point .

 

NeoV

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awful, awful backlight problem....all 4 friggin corners.....playing HL reminds me of the part of Max Payne were your peripheral vision was all blurry....it's unusable in it's current state...very big let down.....calling Dell now
 

nitromullet

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I've been hearing a lot more about this backlighting problem. It seems that the people who got their's early don't have this, but everyone who has gotten one recently does. I wonder if Dell got a bad run or are just selling them too quickly. This might end up being the deciding factor to go with the 2001FP over the 2004FPW, or maybe a good reason to hold off on getting one of these. Too bad my 25% coupon expires Jan 5.
 

Hikari

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Yeah, that backlight problem is HORRIBLE if you get it. I should have my replacement next week at least. Thankfully they have a great satisfaction policy.
 
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Great news guys, I got my replacement today and it totally has no backlight issues at all. However it does have 1 dead subpixel locked in the on position (looks green) towards the center of the screen. Not sure if I'm willing to risk a replacement over 1 pixel, thoughts?
 

Hikari

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I guess it depends on if you can tolerate it or not... I take it rubbing it gently doesn't make it go away?
 
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Nope I called up Dell and got bounced all over trying to get a second replacement... but the customer service rep said he'd call me back in a couple hours with my dispatch number, kinda confused why he didn't issue me one there and then, but we'll see. If it boils down to taking 1 dead subpixel or backlight issues id definitly go with the 1 dead subpixel... but for almost 600 bucks I think you should get a monitor without any problems..
 

agent2099

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halcy I'm in the same situation

my 2nd monitor had no backlight isssues, but a green stuck pixel. I'm just going to keep the one without the backlight issue.
 

Sadhu

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Originally posted by: halcy
Nope I called up Dell and got bounced all over trying to get a second replacement... but the customer service rep said he'd call me back in a couple hours with my dispatch number, kinda confused why he didn't issue me one there and then, but we'll see. If it boils down to taking 1 dead subpixel or backlight issues id definitly go with the 1 dead subpixel... but for almost 600 bucks I think you should get a monitor without any problems..

I am not sure if the returns policy on locked (live) pixel is different than a dead one. With dead ones, you have to have more than eight (unless you have four in a row) in order for a return based on a pixel problem. Perhaps it's different with "locked" pixels. Anyone know?

Here's a thought that some might consider more than others ... I expect. For those who are into games and using dark backgrounds, and into watching full screen movies, the backlight issue can, no doubt, bug the heck out of you. However, for those who use their monitors rarely for such things, and just do desktop apps and the like, say an occasional video via Media Player, but rarely games, and rarely a full screen black background (pretty rare that people use the full black desktop), the issue of the backlight is certainly less relivant than a locked pixel, because you never really see the backlight issue in normal computing. That's the reason so many people ("plpe" as I've seen it spelled in this forum, though I don't know why) never say anothing about it. They don't see it, because they ... well, they don't see it.

However, no matter what you are doing on your computer, you do see the dead pixel all the time if it is in the center of the screen. So, I'd say, which causes you return your monitor kind of depends upon ... what you do most of the time on your monitor.

Also, I know $600 seems like a lot of money for a monitor, but really ... it's not. And, I've seen dead pixels on many $1500-$2200 monitors, even ones that currently sell for that price.

- Sadhu
 

edliu512

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600$ wide screen LCD for just windows apps???? Be realistic, everyone wants to use it as a home theatre screen at the least, and that back light issue is definitely untolerable!!!
 

ScottFern

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how does this monitor stack up against the HP 23" LCD L2335 ???? I know the price of the HP is double that of the 2005FP, but regardless of price any opinions?
 

amheck

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Well, like everyone else, I'm really to pull the trigger on one of the 20" Dell monitors. I always wanted the 2001FP since it got such rave reviews, but the widescreen is definitely tempting. But I wanted to know, I don't watch DVD's on my computer. Mainly just web browsing and Office apps, along with gaming. Is the 2001FP the monitor I want?

Also, want video card are all of you using with the 2001 and 2005's? I'm stuck with a Quadro 700GXL 64meg (with DVI) until I can get something better. Will I be ok with that video card for the time being? I guess the 1600x1200 (or widescreen variation) will be ok in windows, but gaming, I'm a little worried. Can the 6600GT even push these monitors in games like HF2 and D3? I don't game that much, but I don't want to be hating it when I do.

THanks!
 

housecat

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my 2005fpw shipped out today (friday) and is coming in monday.. its nice having a dell warehouse in illinois and living in iowa!

according to driver, you are going to want a 6800 gt or better. im going to tough it out with my old geforce4 4200 until the Asus AMD SLI boards are out this december/january to upgrade to a A64 3000+ and 6800gt.

i'd recommend waiting a month or so for the nf4 and getting a pci express graphics card at this point unless you have a athlon64 already with agp.
 

amheck

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When you do think we'll see another $$ off coupon that can stack with the 25% off LCD deals?
 
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