Dell new 20" wide LCD 2005FPW. Has anyone seen this beast?

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jimikim

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Mine had bad backlight, but it didn't really bother me. However, I returned it for a different reason. The backlight would NOT turn off, even when I turned off the monitor. I would have to unplug the darn thing for the backlight to turn off. Ususally you just turn off the computer and the monitor would go to standby and the backlight would turn off.

Did anyone else have this problem? Just wondering if that problem is rampant, or I was just really unlucky.
 

Gizmotion

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ScottFern - that's exactly what my 2005FPW looks like! I'm waiting for the delivery of a 2001FP to see if it's any better.

Sadhu - The other reason why the type might look bad on the Mac screen is because of a thing called type smoothing. I don't know if OSX has it but OS 9 did and it makes type look atrocious. On another note - that's cool that you used to be a recording engineer. I'm a guitarist and used to have a home portastudio set-up. Now I dabble in Cubase every once in a while. I also am a former hippie :roll:
 

ScottFern

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This is really freaking me out. People are getting replacements and they have the backlight issue too!! Is this "supposed to be there" according to Dell??

How is there customer service for returning this LCD cause I am prepared to do it as soon as I open it? I can wait for a good one.



 

ScottFern

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Originally posted by: Gizmotion
ScottFern - that's exactly what my 2005FPW looks like! I'm waiting for the delivery of a 2001FP to see if it's any better.

Sadhu - The other reason why the type might look bad on the Mac screen is because of a thing called type smoothing. I don't know if OSX has it but OS 9 did and it makes type look atrocious. On another note - that's cool that you used to be a recording engineer. I'm a guitarist and used to have a home portastudio set-up. Now I dabble in Cubase every once in a while. I also am a former hippie :roll:

Your not going to accept that back light problem are you???
 

jimikim

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The backlight is not really a problem. It's ONLY like that when the screen is blank (completely black). I have yet to watch a movie on it, but I can imagine it being a little annoying to some people during dark scenes.

But does anyone else have/had the problem where the backlight would not turn off, even when it was powered off? I have to unplug mine to get the backlight to turn off...Dell is sending a new one in a few days.
 

housecat

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the problem with the backlight not powering off is not a problem on my 2005.

as far as the backlight problem.. that photo is what mine looks like.. but it doesnt bother me at all. i dont consider it a problem. i dont think i'd send mine in, also im never buying another fullscreen again after using this..

also, many know this already but cleartype is something you def. want to enable
 

housecat

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btw if you use a nvidia card and have it set on "monitor scaling" in the drivers... you cant even tell at all when its out of its native resolution.. i play sid meiers pirates! at 1024x768.. it stretches to fullscreen and you cannot tell at all.. you'd have to be the most analytical geek to see the difference IMO.

im pretty picky, but i cant tell its out of native res... i suppose 1680x1050 is a tad sharper..

my geforce 4200 runs UT04@1680 just fine and i get a constant 60fps in CS @ that res as well. i didnt turn on a FPS scale on UT but it doesnt lag and my skills havent been reduced because i'm on a "lowly" 4200.. thats my ultimate test.

i have a newfound love for my 4200. just a welldesigned reliable card... i havent had such great longevity since my GF2 GTS.

even though it works fine... im enthused to get a 6600GT....
 

amol

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has anyone tried two 2005FPw in dual config? or has seen it? that'd be AWESOME!

oh also, what other 20" monitors are comparable to this dell one?
 
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So here goes:
Initial LCD: Backlight problem, no dead pixels
Replacement 1: No backlight problem, 1 dead subpixel
Replacement 2: No backlight problem, 3 dead subpixels

thinking im gonna stick with replacement 1... i can deal with 1 dead subpixel... not really wort5h the hassle to have to keep sending monitors back and forth...
 

Skylander

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Wow... I finally understand what blacklight issue is about after watching your screenshot. It seems horrible! I just came home from work and try to test my 2001FP. I originally thought I don't have that problem. But after a curiosity test, I realized that the lower left hand corner of my LCD has a minor backlight problem too. However, I think I can accept that because I didn't realized the backlight problem during I was watching a movie couple days ago. I also worried that the replacement might be even worst....

I am wondering how did you find out the backlight issue after you installled the monitor? Were you watching movie or playing game?

I hope you can get a better one on your replacement.

Originally posted by: ScottFern
HORRIFIC BACKLIGHT!!


I hope mine doesn't come like that, that is untolerable.

 

amol

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Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: Amol
has anyone tried two 2005FPw in dual config? or has seen it? that'd be AWESOME!

oh also, what other 20" monitors are comparable to this dell one?

Yep. this was posted in video by Ackmed a few days ago.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...;threadid=1455794&

He does a nice pictorial comparing the widescreen 2005FPW to its 20" full screen cousin, the Dell 2001FP.

whoops! i meant 20" WIDESCREEN monitors, haha, BESIDES the apple cinema display
 

ScottFern

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My 2005FPW shipped today, but no idea when it should be at my house??

I am kinda depressed now, I think when I open it, it is going to have 3 dead pixels and horrible back light issues. I am such a cynic.
 

housecat

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i have backlight issues and no dead pixels whatsoever. theres no way i'd send this beauty in though.. the backlight issue isnt an issue for me.

the only issue that would bother me enough to start sending for replacements would be if i hadnt decided to get a 2005fpw... i have pretty strong feelings for this screen. :heart:
 

ScottFern

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LOL, nice to hear everyone loves the size of the screen. I am afraid I will be inclined to the 2001FP cuz I have had it for a year....but I have a feeling this widescreen is going to win me over.
 

Denis54

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I am about to place an order for a new screen and need to decide between the 2001 and the 2005. I realise that most people seem to prefer the 2005 right now but I cannot see its advantages. The 2005 is less than an inch wider (16.96 vs 16) but at the expense of almost 1.5 inch in height (10.6 vs 12). Its total surface is also roughly 6% (180vs 192) smaller than the 2001.

Could you help me understand why I should consider the 2005? I spend my time this way:

70% progamming
15% gaming
15% word and excel work
0% watching movies
 

R3MF

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because a widescreen makes much better use of your natural field of vision.

admitedly, this is more important for activities where 'immersivness' is important such as movies and games.
 

Skylander

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I asked myself the similar question after I heard about the release of 2005FPW, especially I just got my 2001FP within three days at that time.

I ended up keep my 2001FP because:

1. It's bigger, I don't want to have a LCD (even in widescreen) with the height of 17" LCD.
2. Mine has no dead pixel.

Although 2005FPW seems have a better contrast ratio, it's ok with me to stick with 2001FP because mine has a very sharp color. I think 2005FPW might be too bright and needs to turn the brightness down. That's my first LCD for home use and I spend on the similar percentage of tasks as yours except I do watch movie some time. In addition, browsing the web with couple browsers is good too! I am totally fine with my 2001FP especially after I read the specification (screen area) of 2005FPW.

Hope this help.


Originally posted by: Denis54
I am about to place an order for a new screen and need to decide between the 2001 and the 2005. I realise that most people seem to prefer the 2005 right now but I cannot see its advantages. The 2005 is less than an inch wider (16.96 vs 16) but at the expense of almost 1.5 inch in height (10.6 vs 12). Its total surface is also roughly 6% (180vs 192) smaller than the 2001.

Could you help me understand why I should consider the 2005? I spend my time this way:

70% progamming
15% gaming
15% word and excel work
0% watching movies

 

NeoV

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Dell includes a DVI cable and a VGA cable...

I've got my replacement coming out this week....I have the worst backlight problem you could imagine, worse than any of the pictures I've seen posted in this or the HardOCP forum....

still a nice monitor though...

I've been able to get Half Life 2 working perfectly at 1600x1050, and WoW as well....Doom 3 - I think, but I'm not positive - the backlight problem is particularly bad on this game since it's so dark.....I can't get Medal of Honor - Pacific Assault to work at this res though...still trying!
 

larciel

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just wondering,

anyone who has 2001 or 2005 and 700m

can you compare screens of those lcd w/ the screen on the 700m?

after looking at 700m screen for 3 days, i can't stand my 1900fp (too dark)

 

Accord99

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Originally posted by: Denis54
Could you help me understand why I should consider the 2005? I spend my time this way:

70% progamming
15% gaming
15% word and excel work
0% watching movies

For your needs, there's no reason to consider the 2005.
 
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This monitor rocks for programming, you can see so much more width on your editing screen... and or controls or whatever you need there.
 

Sadhu

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Originally posted by: Denis54
I am about to place an order for a new screen and need to decide between the 2001 and the 2005. I realise that most people seem to prefer the 2005 right now but I cannot see its advantages. The 2005 is less than an inch wider (16.96 vs 16) but at the expense of almost 1.5 inch in height (10.6 vs 12). Its total surface is also roughly 6% (180vs 192) smaller than the 2001.

Could you help me understand why I should consider the 2005? I spend my time this way:

70% progamming
15% gaming
15% word and excel work
0% watching movies

If 85% of your time is spent in regular apps, then ask yourself if you use multiple windows, and whether you will have a lot open at one time. Also ask yourself about how you like to layout these windows ...one above the other or side by side? With one monitor you gain height and lose width, and with the other you lose height and gain width. If you don't already have a preference, you might get used to either one ... and it's a coin toss.

Personally, for regular applications, like programming, and Dreamweaver, and Photoshop, etc., I find I am in the same camp as Skylander. Re-read Skylander's comments. He packs a number of valid points in there. The one unescapable impression when you have them side by side is that the 2005 looks like a 17" monitor (in terms of height). And therefore, really looks tiny. I find that I also prefer to work with a monitor that doesn't have the height of a 17" monitor. Even the 19" monitor would be better in this regard (and by the way, the Dell 1905 has an 800:1 contrast ratio (while the monitor that everyone is talking about here ... the 2005FPw only has a 600:1 contrast ration). The ture advantage of the 2001 is it's 1600x1200 resolution and it's good color saturation. Perhaps the whites are as pure but that without looking red, green or blue, whites are good on the 2001, and it's also not overly bright.

I think that my iimpression was and still is that the 2005 might be a smidgen too bright, even after turning brightness down. There are subtle differences between the two, and it would be mistake to say, I believe that the 2001FP is the "old" model, and that the 2005 is the new improved deal. That's jumping the gun a little. One thing is for certain, however, size and proportion is different. So, here, the choice needs to be personal one.
 

Sadhu

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Originally posted by: halcy
This monitor rocks for programming, you can see so much more width on your editing screen... and or controls or whatever you need there.

This proves that perference is personal, since I prefer the 2001FP for Dreawever coding and most Office 2003 apps (excepting MS Excel). If the height had been the same, and the screen were simply wider, then I'd agree with you, but the 2005 is like a 17" monitor. It is just a wee big bigger than a 17" in height.

A 23-inch monitor would get my vote as a wide screen.

Of course, if one is using 2 monitors, the issue becomes less serious, and I could live with either but even so, I think I'd still prefer two 2001FPs to 2 2005FPw monitors.
 
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