Dell new 20" wide LCD 2005FPW. Has anyone seen this beast?

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nitromullet

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Originally posted by: kreidel
Dell support.

That doesn't really mean very much to me...

When they sent me a 1905FP instead of a 2005FPW by accident the first time around I called Dell...

The guy on phone asked me how I knew that I received the wong monitor, so I explained that it was not the correct model number - that I was supposed to recieve a 2005FPW instead of a 1905FP and that the 1905FP was a 19" LCD, while the 2005FPW was a 20" widescreen LCD. Then he asks me how I know that the monitor I reveiced was a 19" monitor and not a 20" widescreen, so I told him that I know because the 1905FP is a 19" monitor and that it certianly isn't widescreen. To that he responds that he doesn't understand how I could possibly know that I recieved the wrong LCD, so I explain that the model number is incorrect and that I have looked at the monitor to make sure that it wasn't just in the wrong box. Addiitonally, I offered to provide him with the serial number from the 1905FP so he could verify himself. At this point he explained to me that based on the information that I had given him, there was no way for him to verify that I had infact recieved the wrong monitor and that the only way that he could verify this was for me to measure the screen size to make sure that is was 19" instead of 20". I asked him is he was serious, and he said yes... I again attempted to explain to him that I was quite sure that I had recieved the incorrect monitor because the model number was not the one I ordered and that the one I recieved was a 19" monitor according the specs on Dell's website and that the monitor that I ordered was a 20" widescreen. So, then he asks me how I know that the monitor they sent me isn't widescreen. I replied that I could tell it wasn't widescreen by simply looking at it - it isn't very hard to distinguish. Apparently at this point, the irritation in my voice may have become noticable (I used to work in a call center and have waited tables for many years so I am generally very nice to service industy folks) since he now did what is known as taking over the call (he actually wasn't bad at this part). He starts out by calling me "Sir" and procedes to explain to me that in order to process my replacement that he has to ensure that I received the incorrerct monitor and that the only way he can possibly do this at this point is for me to measure the screen size. Once we reached this juncture, it became clear to me that trying to impress upon him that he could use the model number, the serial number, the screen size, or any other piece of information, but that since I would still be the source of this information it require that he trust me. So, I did the only thing I knew that would get this done and told him I had to dig up a tape measure, russtled some pens and paper around, told him I got a teape measure, make a few more russtling sounds, asked him if he wanted diagonal, vertical, or horizontal measurements, he replied diagonal, more russtling sounds, and then I said, "ummm... yep, exactly 19 inches". He replies, "Thank you, sir." and processed my replacement.

This all took place on Dec 18. I finally received the replacemnt LCD on Jan 5th. There was a delay in the processing of the replacement because apparently Dell has to have the serial number of the incorrect item before they will send a replacement.

....and you expect me to believe that some Dell support rep knows about new hardware revisions!?!
 

bjc112

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At this point he explained to me that based on the information that I had given him, there was no way for him to verify that I had infact recieved the wrong monitor and that the only way that he could verify this was for me to measure the screen size to make sure that is was 19" instead of 20". I asked him is he was serious, and he said yes... I again attempted to explain to him that I was quite sure that I had recieved the incorrect monitor



Was he taking your call from wayy over in India?

After the model number and serial is given, he should be more than happy to ship you a new one.
 

nitromullet

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Was he taking your call from wayy over in India?

After the model number and serial is given, he should be more than happy to ship you a new one.

My point is that I don't trust anything that a Dell rep tells me... The only reason to put up with them is because the 2005FPW is a damn nice piece of monitor at a really nice price. Overall, I've been quite pleased with my purchase so I haven't badmouthed their reps too much, but I felt that I had to relate my story when someone claims to know that there is a new revision 2005FPW coming out because a Dell rep told them. IMO, Sadhu's take on this supposed revision sounds about right.

nitromullet, that is just . . . . WTF

tell me about it...
 

kreidel

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Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: kreidel
Dell support.

....and you expect me to believe that some Dell support rep knows about new hardware revisions!?!

You don't have to believe it, I could care less for your sake. But the newer updated versions will now carry a revA01 vs. the older A00.

 

DaShadow

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I tend to agree with kreidel....

I ordered my 2005FPW after the first of the year, it came arrived on Friday and is still a Rev00.

But it also exhibits none of the problems people are discussing here....

There are no dead pixels and no backlight issues.

This is my second 2005 for the house. The first one I ordered in the middle of December and had no dead pixels and only a slight backlight problem in the upper right hand corner, can't even tell it unless all the lights are out. I kept it and I'm completely happy with two 2005's now.
 
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Questions to all 2005FPW Owners..... I have a 2005fpw with a 9800 pro and I would like to know what monitor video cars settings you are running. I find the monitor being way to bright at full everything I tweaked some things but its still not perfect I cant see some lighter things like on my crt when I have it tweaked so its not to bright.

Anyways just let me know.. Thanks
 

RyBoy

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I ordered mine on 1/4/05, estimated ship date has been changed to...1/17/05. Wow, that is just great!
 

Tab

Lifer
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Same, my is 17th as well.

It seems Dell has identified they have problems with this monitor. Hopefully, they'll fix it.
 

imverygifted

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ordered mine on the 7th, estimated ship date has been changed to the 17th as well, im pretty pissed cuz i sold my other LCD which im dropping off this saturday so i'll have to use my laptop for a week or se which means no gaming. anyone call about compensation or something for the super long ship time i mean the wait is going to be about 3 weeks to a month minimum thats gotta count for something. i wish another company made a monitor that could even compete with dells in the price range but until then its worth the wait
 

bjc112

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Originally posted by: Amol
hopefully, new revision coming SOON

AT, PLEASE PLEASE REVIEW THE MONITOR!!!

HA.

I have PM'ed KrsiKubicki numerous times. BEGGGGGING.

I don't understand why there has not been a review yet.


Ive been on hold for over 1 hour. Everyone I talk to has no idea, or transfers me and I WAIT again.

Please let me just get a replacement shipped out.
 

nitromullet

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For all of you guys complaining about the pushing back on your expected ship date:

Aside from any issues I have had with Dell service, the one thing that they do have going for them is that they estimate the shipping dates long. In both cases, I actually received the monitor days before the expected shipping date. My guess is that they set an expectation of a ship date well past what they know they can ship by so the customer is pleasantly surprised when they get their stuff "early".

I have PM'ed KrsiKubicki numerous times. BEGGGGGING.

I don't understand why there has not been a review yet.

I also contacted Kristopher back in Dec, and he responded as follows:

I have been watching the thread and I am fairly intrigued. I have been
working with dell to get a sample ASAP but everyone seems stuck in the
holiday doldrums! We might have to buy a sample, but I will try to get a
review out before the middle of Jan.

Kristopher Kubicki
Senior Editor, AnandTech, Inc.
email: kristopher@anandtech.com

AT has our back, just give them some time... As is plainly clear from this thread, these monitors aren't exactly easy to get hold of quickly. I would assume that PM'ing AT staff numerous times will not necessarily endear them to your request.
 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: Fr0zen2k4
Questions to all 2005FPW Owners..... I have a 2005fpw with a 9800 pro and I would like to know what monitor video cars settings you are running. I find the monitor being way to bright at full everything I tweaked some things but its still not perfect I cant see some lighter things like on my crt when I have it tweaked so its not to bright.

Anyways just let me know.. Thanks

I had originally turned down the brightness via the nVidia control panel, but I noticed that I was getting whomped on when playing HL2 DM because I couldn't see my opponents in the shadows, so I turned it back up. I have left it that way now for a week, and I am adjusting to the brightness. This monitor is very different than a CRT (much brighter with greater contrast) and takes a bit of getting used to. I would imagine that by constantly messing with the settings, you aren't allowing yourself to adjust to it.

 

bjc112

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Originally posted by: nitromullet
For all of you guys complaining about the pushing back on your expected ship date:

Aside from any issues I have had with Dell service, the one thing that they do have going for them is that they estimate the shipping dates long. In both cases, I actually received the monitor days before the expected shipping date. My guess is that they set an expectation of a ship date well past what they know they can ship by so the customer is pleasantly surprised when they get their stuff "early".

I have PM'ed KrsiKubicki numerous times. BEGGGGGING.

I don't understand why there has not been a review yet.

I also contacted Kristopher back in Dec, and he responded as follows:

I have been watching the thread and I am fairly intrigued. I have been
working with dell to get a sample ASAP but everyone seems stuck in the
holiday doldrums! We might have to buy a sample, but I will try to get a
review out before the middle of Jan.

Kristopher Kubicki
Senior Editor, AnandTech, Inc.
email: kristopher@anandtech.com

AT has our back, just give them some time... As is plainly clear from this thread, these monitors aren't exactly easy to get hold of quickly. I would assume that PM'ing AT staff numerous times will not necessarily endear them to your request.


I understand it may be hard to come by. And I certainly am not doing it to the extent of being a pest.
They might as well be the first to get a review in




STILL on the phone with Dell. Their telephone support is absolutely horrible. Have went through 4 people and have still not gained a thing.

Emailed customer support also. I really was unaware how bad their service is.
 
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Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: Fr0zen2k4
Questions to all 2005FPW Owners..... I have a 2005fpw with a 9800 pro and I would like to know what monitor video cars settings you are running. I find the monitor being way to bright at full everything I tweaked some things but its still not perfect I cant see some lighter things like on my crt when I have it tweaked so its not to bright.

Anyways just let me know.. Thanks

I had originally turned down the brightness via the nVidia control panel, but I noticed that I was getting whomped on when playing HL2 DM because I couldn't see my opponents in the shadows, so I turned it back up. I have left it that way now for a week, and I am adjusting to the brightness. This monitor is very different than a CRT (much brighter with greater contrast) and takes a bit of getting used to. I would imagine that by constantly messing with the settings, you aren't allowing yourself to adjust to it.


you might be right, So you have all settings at stock, I turned down gamma and brightness via my ati control panel and the monitor brightness is at 50%.
 

bjc112

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WOW,

The guy I am currently speaking is UNREAL. There is no way he should be on the tech support team.

He has no idea what dead/stuck pixels are. No idea about the black light issue.

Working on a swap now.

WOWWOWOWOWOWOWOw.
 

nitromullet

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I was waiting for someone to say this... after my experiences with Dell, I can't even imagine trying to explain a dead/stuck pixel or backlighting. I don't have any household tools to measure that, so the rep might not be able to verify my information.
 

vududeman

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OK, NEW question for this thread while we are examining our monitors in such great detail.

*hardcoat anti-glare coating*

I have the new 2005fpw and a 1901. On a bright or white screen, the 2005fpw anti-glare coating is very visible, to the point of being annoying. I have barely noticed this on other monitors, and it appears the 2005 has a special coating on it. I'm in a dark room. Anyone else noticed this? The monitor looks great with darker colors on the screen, but bright colors make this stand out. On a positive note WOW looks great on this monitor.
 

efliv

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Hey everyone,

I've read this whole thread so far and decided to go with the 2005. Just can't get over the widescreen. Thanks to everyone for the info. But now I've got two questions:

1) I just ordered the 2005, estimated ship date of 1/26/05. Does anyone know if that will be the new revision and what's supposed to be different with that revision.? Is it worth waiting for the revision and will Dell honor the coupon if I try and delay for that revision if I'm not getting the new one? I guess that's more than one question, but here's the other one...

2) I ordered the 2005 with a 30% off small busines coupon I got on ebay. Will Dell complete small business orders to individuals?

Thanks.
 

DaShadow

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Don't worry about it, there isn't a new revision coming (at least in the near-term).

I have ordered two of these, one for my home office and the other in the bedroom for movie watching.

First one was ordered in the middle of December, it arrived the week after Christmas, no dead pixels and just a very slight backlight issue in the upper right hand corner if ALL the lights are out. I would have never noticed it if I wouldn't have read these message boards and looked really hard for it. As a matter of fact, all my other LCD both std. monitors and laptops exhibit as much if not more.

My second one I ordered the beginning of January and it got here about a week ago, 0 dead pixels and NO backlight problem.

This leads me to believe the problem isn't as bad as it sounds from all the people on the boards. I'm not denying that there might be more defective or problems than the average new LCD's, but I think the vast majority of individuals who receive good ones just don't say anything.

Look if I can order two at different times and the both come away as perfect IMHO, it's probably just a lot of people looking for something to be wrong with theirs.

Again, there are some absolutely justified comments and I did see some pictures of a monitor that has HORRIBLE backlight issues and I would have been upset too. I just don't think that's the majority of the cases.

I could be wrong though.

Let us know how yours works out for ya!
 

Farm

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Which rev. is the new one?
Mine arrived today and is Rev A01 (Assembled in Mexico).

I briefly ran a backlight test and is has a very small amount in the upper left and no dead pixels that I've discovered yet. It's only been on for about 2 hours though and I had to return to work.
 
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Originally posted by: Farm
Which rev. is the new one?
Mine arrived today and is Rev A01 (Assembled in Mexico).

I breifly ran a backlight test and is has a very small amount in the upper left and no dead pixels that I've discovered yet. It's only been on for about 2 hours though and I had to return to work.

Where was yours shipped from?

Mine was shipped today but is not yet showing a tracking number. If it was shipped from Austin, it'll be here tomorrow probably. If it's shipped from Ohio like my last CRT monitor from Dell was....it'll be next week some time, after I move back to my university (175 miles away)...
 
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