Dell P991Trinitron monitor for $280 shipped after 20% off

[Tsumaranai]

I bought a Dell system and got the P991 a while back and I love it. However, if you haven't had a trinitron, there are two horizontal lines on the screen. They're hard to notice but they are there, sort of dividing the screen into three sections. This is apparently part of the trinitron design and not accidental. Trust me, unless you look for them, you probably won't notice them... but they are a consideration.

 

[Justincase]

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[Terrace]

i can run 100hz 1280x1024 or 85hz 1600x1200

 

[RossMAN]

<< >>>I run my Dell P991 at 1280x1024@85 I haven't tried running anything higher because my eyes can't stand it.<<<

Then that confirms that the P991 is not equivalent to the Sony CPD-G400...on the G400, 1600x1200 @85hz is near-perfection. And the Compaq P900 is even better at the same resolution. >>



Then why does the product description read?
Monitor; 19" (18" Visible) White P991Trinitron monitor
19 IN, 18 IN, 0.24 mm, 1600 x 1200 pixels, 107 KHz

 

[Justincase]

Ross, I'm sorry but I am not understanding the question.

My point was that if you are unable to stand viewing the P991 at 1600x1200, then it is not as good as the other 2 monitors, which I find to be outstanding even when viewed for 17 hours a day (and I am very picky when it comes to monitors). It may be that your particular unit has a problem, or that your video card has an issue with that monitor at that resolution. If it were me, I would get an exchange if it is under warranty.

 

[RossMAN]

Justincase,

Ah ok I think I understand now. Allow me to clarify something though. When I said, I haven't tried running anything higher because my eyes can't stand it. I didn't mean that the image quality was terrible or unreadable, it's just too small for me to see. 1280x1024@85 to me is perfection, if I wanted to run at 1600x1200 I could but I choose not to.

The Dell P991 is a rock solid monitor and if I had to do it all over again I'd buy the same monitor. I have zero regrets.

 

[IgorTs]

Do you like two horizontal lines on the tube? All Sony have it and can't get it fixed.

 

[BornStar]

The two horizontal lines are supposedly braces for the screen. As you said, all Trinitrons have them and you can't get them fixed because they're an integral part of the design of the monitor.

 

[Justincase]

Thanks for clearing that up Ross.

 

[KiltedFool]

Hate to keep harping on this, but what's the bleeding difference in overall quality between the M991 and the P991? See above post

KF

 

[Justincase]

The 2 horizonal lines are inherent to Shadow Mask monitors. It is not a design flaw. The lines are barely noticeable except when you are looking at a white screen...or reading about them in one of these threads :Q

You can read more about shadow masks near the bottom of this page.

 

[Terrace]

diffrence M991 and P991

not flat , not trinitron tubes , not for perfessional use. i suggest you buy Samsung's for similar price.

 

[Squalish2357]

Rossman:


<< << >>>I run my Dell P991 at 1280x1024@85 I haven't tried running anything higher because my eyes can't stand it.<<<

Then that confirms that the P991 is not equivalent to the Sony CPD-G400...on the G400, 1600x1200 @85hz is near-perfection. And the Compaq P900 is even better at the same resolution. >>



Then why does the product description read?
Monitor; 19" (18" Visible) White P991Trinitron monitor
19 IN, 18 IN, 0.24 mm, 1600 x 1200 pixels, 107 KHz >>



Whenever the refresh rate is put in KiloHertz, as opposed to Hertz, you can assume they are quoting a figure for something more complicated. In a somewhat simplified explanation, what they are quoting is something like the number of pixels the monitor can output in a second. This is split so that at higher resolutions, the refresh rate is lower, while at lower resolutions it is faster. Toms Hardware has this to say about it:



<< Note that a key factor in the quality of a monitor is the acceptable horizontal refresh rate. Here, we can distinguish between five classes of monitor, based on optimal refresh rate at a given resolution:

85 kHz = 1024 x 768 @ 85Hz
95 kHz = 1280 x 1024 @ 85Hz
107 kHz = 1600 x 1200 @ 85Hz
115 kHz = 1600 x 1200 @ 92Hz
125 kHz = 1856 x 1392 @ 85Hz >>



Note that no monitor has 107kHz refresh rate, that is merely a way of clarifying what it can do at different resolutions in one number. Refresh rates are stated in Hertz, which is refreshes per second, not kilohertz, which is thousands of refreshes a second.

Ive been using the Dell Ultrascan P991 for 2 years now and its great. I had a bad experience with it about 3 months ago when I installed a new graphics card and windows would only recognise it as some CTX monitor(it would run 1024x768 @ 48 Hz) but I downloaded the drivers(.inf files really, Windows 98 FE had one for the P990, but not the P991) and now it works great again. IMO the two scan lines that hold the monitor together(Since the mask is nothing but a bunch of vertical lines, there is no horizontal stabilization, necessitating stabilizing wires) are barely noticable. I can locate them if I try, and on a white background they look like a very thin light grey line. On other colors(anything darker than the grey that is the background to these forums) I cannot see them at all. This monitor can run @ 1280x1024 @85Hz and 1600x1200 @ 75Hz, and this is a great price for it. BTW, this monitor IS COMPLETELY FLAT, I can notice no curvature whatsoever. I have a similar non-flat trinitron (forget the model) in my other room, and it is always weird working on that after getting used to the flatness of this one.

In Summary: Great monitor, totally flat, great refresh rate, and perfect price.

 

[PremiumG]

so does this monitor have FD Trinitron or Trinitron? I gotta have flat!!!

 

[brxndxn]

DAMMIT! I can't get the %20 rebate! I tried signing up for email deals, reloading the pages, clearing my cookies, drinking a cup of coffee, etc.. and I still can't get it to $280.. ARRRRGGH!!


Anyone have any hints or tips.. (please msg to let me know)

 

[djlevyii]

I've got the 991 and it's an excellent monitor!!!!

 

[brxndxn]

hahahaha!!! I didn't need this deal!! I went to SAMS Wholesale and got a brand spankin' new Sony G400 for $299! I mean, hello!!! This is a G400!

 

[brothaX]

Argh, looks like they discontinued the 20% off and free shipping. I hate missing out on a deal like this. Does anyone know if Dell regularly reinstitutes these 20% and free shipping sales?

 

[cool0221]

It is a pity that few guys here realize P991 is basically G400.

IT CAN DO 1280*1024 @ 100HZ or 1600*1200@ 85HZ, but you do need a decent video card to make use of that full potential.

P991 is the best!!!!

 

[RossMAN]

cool0221 - That's what I keep trying to tell them, I swear the next person who asks "so is this a good monitor, is it the same as a Sony G400" is gonna get it!

 

[Salvador]

This is a great price for this monitor btw.. My friends P991 beat the crap out of all 5 Sony G420's that I got from Dell. Because of either shipping damage or manufacturing defects, I didn't even end up with a Sony G420. I was using my friends P991 as a benchmark and none of them came close.

Sal

 

[RossMAN]

Sal, didn't you end up buying a Compaq P900? If so, how do you like it compared to the P991?

 

[pillage2001]

<< >>>I run my Dell P991 at 1280x1024@85 I haven't tried running anything higher because my eyes can't stand it.<<<

Then that confirms that the P991 is not equivalent to the Sony CPD-G400...on the G400, 1600x1200 @85hz is near-perfection. And the Compaq P900 is even better at the same resolution. >>



You talking about my monitor??

I'm pretty sure the P991 is as good as the G400. I use both of them pretty often.

 

[LukFilm]

So is this a good monitor, is it the same as a Sony G400?

 

[RossMAN]

<< So is this a good monitor, is it the same as a Sony G400? >>



Smart ass, you gotta try harder than that.