Dem Strategist: Women don't need guns, just tell men not to rape

[BoberFett]

My understanding of the statement is we as a culture, country should be addressing the culture of rape. That when it comes to rape, instead of saying just arm women how about getting it in men's heads that it is not okay to rape women or anyone?

Seriously? Culture of rape? What drugs are you on?

What kind of stupidity are you peddling son? Where does anybody say it's ok to rape?

Fucking Democrats. If anybody can make nutjob Republicans look good, it's you.

 

[ShawnD1]

Seriously? Culture of rape? What drugs are you on?

He has no sexual desire, so he assumes it's a learned behavior to want sex. Not understanding natural sexual desire would be caused by his problem of low testosterone levels. If he had normal T levels, he would understand where the desire for sex comes from.

What kind of stupidity are you peddling son? Where does anybody say it's ok to rape?

Everybody is told not to do things like rape or be violent. The inability to do cost-benefit analysis (is it worth raping someone) comes from poor development of the brain's frontal lobes. This is simple science, but hard core libs assume that particular type of brain damage is caused by some kind of cultural conspiracy that hates women. It's mind boggling.


It's weird hearing women talk about rape when almost all rape is done by men. If you don't have a man's testosterone levels or a man's brain structure, how can you be an authority on rapist mentality? That's like me trying to explain why women put pillows on couches, making the couch completely useless until the pillows are thrown on the floor.

 

[nehalem256]

He has no sexual desire, so he assumes it's a learned behavior to want sex. Not understanding natural sexual desire would be caused by his problem of low testosterone levels. If he had normal T levels, he would understand where the desire for sex comes from.

Everybody is told not to do things like rape or be violent. The inability to do cost-benefit analysis (is it worth raping someone) comes from poor development of the brain's frontal lobes. This is simple science, but hard core libs assume that particular type of brain damage is caused by some kind of cultural conspiracy that hates women. It's mind boggling.

It's weird hearing women talk about rape when almost all rape is done by men. If you don't have a man's testosterone levels or a man's brain structure, how can you be an authority on rapist mentality? That's like me trying to explain why women put pillows on couches, making the couch completely useless until the pillows are thrown on the floor.

Feminists hate sex and love power. So they assume everyone else must be the same, and so obviously rape must be about power and not sex.

 

[waggy]

That's like me trying to explain why women put pillows on couches, making the couch completely useless until the pillows are thrown on the floor.

and then you get yelled at for having pillows on the floor!



this idea of just "tell men not to rape" is fucking idiotic. flat out idiotic. I do wish such stuff was that easy. Tell people not break any laws or be corrupt (ohh the government needs that speech!) etc.

Men do it as a way of power, to hurt them. telling them "no rapping, raper!" just going to egg them on.

where things get cloudy is "date rape" and morning after rape.

 

[Geosurface]

Everybody is told not to do things like rape or be violent. The inability to do cost-benefit analysis (is it worth raping someone) comes from poor development of the brain's frontal lobes. This is simple science, but hard core libs assume that particular type of brain damage is caused by some kind of cultural conspiracy that hates women. It's mind boggling.

It's weird hearing women talk about rape when almost all rape is done by men. If you don't have a man's testosterone levels or a man's brain structure, how can you be an authority on rapist mentality?

Completely right.

Generally speaking, both conservatives and liberals are LOATHE to acknowledge just how large our biology looms in determining our behavior, at every level, in every conceivable respect.

Nobody wants to think they're a wind up toy for the genes within them... and they aren't, but the current understanding of the average person as to how much their biology influences their potential, and their behavior, and everything about them... is woefully underestimating the true figure.

People like to engage in this nonsense fairy tale that gender is a social construct! Race is a social construct! We're all exactly identical blank slates! Yay!!!!! It's a bunch of horseshit, of course. But it makes them feel warm and tingly inside, so that's even better than it being true.

Feminists hate sex and love power. So they assume everyone else must be the same, and so obviously rape must be about power and not sex.

Yea I've always found that line of "rape is about power, not sex" to be laughably absurd. Of COURSE it's about sex. It's primarily about sex. Is power part of it too? Yea, sure, probably! At least, probably for some rapists! I don't fuckin' know, I'm not a rapist. But I do know this, sex is the primary motivating factor.

Doesn't make it any less vile, but I just believe in being honest about things.

 

[dank69]

Damn, I know lots of religious fuckwits and all of them seem to know not to rape.

So you aren't aware of all the pious men that think it's okay to molest altar boys?

 

[nehalem256]

So you aren't aware of all the pious men that think it's okay to molest altar boys?

Given how clear the Catholic Churches' stance on homosexuality is I don't think you can make the case they don't know what they were doing was wrong.

 

[dank69]

I don't know anyone who thinks rape is okay. "Culture of rape"? Where's that?

Your join date says 2000 but you seem to be an internet noob. There are porn sites devoted to rape fantasy, just for starters. I'm sure if you dig around the seedier corners of the internet you will find sites devoted to real rape. I guarantee millions of teen boys are all about the rape porn. Sharking, hidden cams, fuck! Boys are raping their fucking sisters and bragging about it on the internet ffs. Get your head out of your ass. This shit wouldn't be so prevalent in today's culture if parents educated their kids correctly about sex instead of ignoring it.

 

[Munky]

Your join date says 2000 but you seem to be an internet noob. There are porn sites devoted to rape fantasy, just for starters. I'm sure if you dig around the seedier corners of the internet you will find sites devoted to real rape. I guarantee millions of teen boys are all about the rape porn. Sharking, hidden cams, fuck! Boys are raping their fucking sisters and bragging about it on the internet ffs. Get your head out of your ass. This shit wouldn't be so prevalent in today's culture if parents educated their kids correctly about sex instead of ignoring it.

So some seedy sites in the corners of internet = culture of rape? Why don't I hear things like "culture of bestiality" or "culture of cinnamon challenges" or "culture of obsolete computers" which all can be found in certain corners of the internet? Maybe because the "culture of rape" is a propaganda movement pushed by feminists with a certain agenda of labeling all men as potential rapists, and demanding ever greater special privileges and taxpayer money be funneled to their ilk.

 

[Incorruptible]

That zerlina maxwell is a disgusting piece of shit. For that POS its alright to label all men as rapists yet she would be the first one outraged if someone said women should learn to close their legs

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Your join date says 2000 but you seem to be an internet noob. There are porn sites devoted to rape fantasy, just for starters. I'm sure if you dig around the seedier corners of the internet you will find sites devoted to real rape. I guarantee millions of teen boys are all about the rape porn. Sharking, hidden cams, fuck! Boys are raping their fucking sisters and bragging about it on the internet ffs. Get your head out of your ass. This shit wouldn't be so prevalent in today's culture if parents educated their kids correctly about sex instead of ignoring it.

Yeah remind me how many just watch this stuff and make no attempt to hide it?

"Hey Joe what did you do this weekend? "

"Oh not much. I sat around and watched some rape porn. I was thinking I might give it a try Friday night. What did you do?"

"Holy shit dude! WTF?? Are you kidding? That's not even a good bad joke! "

"What do you mean? Of course I'm serious. What's wrong with it? "

"Are you seriously telling me you don't know that's not right? "

"What are you talking about? I'm 30 years old and never heard any such thing. You're making that up. "


Now how many of those conversations go on? Well someone better go out because all those rapists have no clue!

Hint. They know. They hide it. They try not to get caught and you are saying that's coincidental? Seriously? As I said they don't need to know it's wrong. They do it anyway. If there's a "culture" it's there in spite of what people know, not because of ignorance and "educating" them isn't going to spare anyone.

 

[nehalem256]

So some seedy sites in the corners of internet = culture of rape? Why don't I hear things like "culture of bestiality" or "culture of cinnamon challenges" or "culture of obsolete computers" which all can be found in certain corners of the internet? Maybe because the "culture of rape" is a propaganda movement pushed by feminists with a certain agenda of labeling all men as potential rapists, and demanding ever greater special privileges and taxpayer money be funneled to their ilk.

Yep. Ironically feminists are correct when they say rape is about power. It is all about Feminist Power.

 

[raildogg]

When people need weapons to defend themselves, that means that society has fallen to a very low position. So instead of WE trying to change ourselves to be better people, we instead want to arm ourselves with more weapons. That means more violence. It will go on and on.

Our culture is based on violence. Everything from movies to sports to video games is about violence and/or competition. Add to the fact that everyone is worried about their own conveniences and you have what you have today. It's not just America, it's the whole world. I even have my violent tendencies but I guess my fear of getting caught is stronger than those. Maybe we ought to change ourselves instead of anything else. One at a time.

 

[raildogg]

Seriously? Culture of rape? What drugs are you on?

What kind of stupidity are you peddling son? Where does anybody say it's ok to rape?

Fucking Democrats. If anybody can make nutjob Republicans look good, it's you.

It is a very violent world we live in and sexual violence is a part of that. No one explicitly says it's OK to rape, obviously. No one explicitly says it's OK to hurt people. But all of that is there.

 

[thraashman]

When people need weapons to defend themselves, that means that society has fallen to a very low position. So instead of WE trying to change ourselves to be better people, we instead want to arm ourselves with more weapons. That means more violence. It will go on and on.

Our culture is based on violence. Everything from movies to sports to video games is about violence and/or competition. Add to the fact that everyone is worried about their own conveniences and you have what you have today. It's not just America, it's the whole world. I even have my violent tendencies but I guess my fear of getting caught is stronger than those. Maybe we ought to change ourselves instead of anything else. One at a time.

Beautifully said. Unfortunately the misogynistic crowd in this thread won't let that sink in at all.

 

[nehalem256]

It is a very violent world we live in and sexual violence is a part of that. No one explicitly says it's OK to rape, obviously. No one explicitly says it's OK to hurt people. But all of that is there.

So basically liberals are trying to deny reality and live in a land of fairies and leprechauns.

When people need weapons to defend themselves, that means that society has fallen to a very low position. So instead of WE trying to change ourselves to be better people, we instead want to arm ourselves with more weapons. That means more violence. It will go on and on.

Most men don't rape. Somehow I don't think telling the minority of men who do to be better people is going to make things better.

Our culture is based on violence. Everything from movies to sports to video games is about violence and/or competition. Add to the fact that everyone is worried about their own conveniences and you have what you have today. It's not just America, it's the whole world. I even have my violent tendencies but I guess my fear of getting caught is stronger than those. Maybe we ought to change ourselves instead of anything else. One at a time.

Why don't you just come out and say that you want to emasculate all men and then dance around with rainbows and unicorns.

 

[dank69]

Yeah remind me how many just watch this stuff and make no attempt to hide it?

"Hey Joe what did you do this weekend? "

"Oh not much. I sat around and watched some rape porn. I was thinking I might give it a try Friday night. What did you do?"

"Holy shit dude! WTF?? Are you kidding? That's not even a good bad joke! "

"What do you mean? Of course I'm serious. What's wrong with it? "

"Are you seriously telling me you don't know that's not right? "

"What are you talking about? I'm 30 years old and never heard any such thing. You're making that up. "


Now how many of those conversations go on? Well someone better go out because all those rapists have no clue!

Hint. They know. They hide it. They try not to get caught and you are saying that's coincidental? Seriously? As I said they don't need to know it's wrong. They do it anyway. If there's a "culture" it's there in spite of what people know, not because of ignorance and "educating" them isn't going to spare anyone.

I bet you would shit bricks if you were a fly on the wall of your average teenaged boy these days. These kids have full access to all the porn you could ever dream of at a very early age. If you had to guess what percentage of parents these days offer these kids guidance on how to process all of it rather than just pretend it doesn't exist, what do you think that percentage would be?

 

[Incorruptible]

So you aren't aware of all the pious men that think it's okay to molest altar boys?

That was a very small minority of the Church and many of the men were found to be gay. Lol at internet tough guy. Care to say the same things towards any of the other religions?

 

[jackstar7]

That was a very small minority of the Church and many of the men were found to be gay. Lol at internet tough guy. Care to say the same things towards any of the other religions?

I'm confused. In your mind does being gay make it okay to molest kids? Or inevitable?

 

[nehalem256]

I'm confused. In your mind does being gay make it okay to molest kids? Or inevitable?

80% of the abusers abused boys.

~4% of men are gay or bisexual.

You do the math.

 

[jackstar7]

80% of the abusers abused boys.

~4% of men are gay or bisexual.

You do the math.

So... I can't get you to give a direct answer to a question that wasn't directed at you?

 

[Geosurface]

I think, particularly in the past, that a lot of gay Catholic men were drawn to the priesthood because they viewed it as a way to conquer their desires. "Surely, if I become a priest and dedicate my life to God... and surround myself with other clergy, I will stop having these sinful feelings!"

and of course, the fact that the priesthood weren't allowed to marry made it far more likely to appeal to homosexual men because, whether they understood why or not, they already had an aversion to getting married to a woman.

So in a time of great ignorance about the biological basis for homosexuality, when people were made to feel sinful and horrible for feelings they had no control over... the church set themselves up for a massive influx of gay priests.

Now, unless a human being is asexual or of very low sexual drive (and these people do exist, though probably not in the quantities required to fill the priesthood exclusively with them, and I think they are better used in the sciences anyway) - it is simply not practical to expect them to ignore their sexual desires for life.

So, these bottled up desires end up breaking free at some point, and often with disastrous consequences that could have been avoided had a healthy, scientifically-informed, realistic attitude about sexuality been present in the first place. If these people hadn't been made to feel vile and sinful in the first place.

As for how this connects with pedophilia? I honestly have on idea. I do not know to what degree pedophilia is an inborn sexual preference. I really don't. Perhaps there are born pedophiles, and then pedophiles who are created by circumstance? In the exact same way some heterosexual men end up participating (perhaps unwillingly at first) in homosexual activities in prison. Perhaps the priesthood, at various times and in various places... created a sort of prison type situation where men who would have preferred to be with other ADULT MEN, instead turned to what what available.

I'm honestly not sure, I know that a lot of homosexual men would be very insulted at any sort of conflation between that and pedophilia, and I can understand why. Still, there may be something to this prison analogy. Sure, there would be the fellow adult priests... but your entire world could blow up in your face if you propositioned another priest and had misjudged them, either finding out they weren't gay or that they were too closeted to be receptive and instead exposed you, denounced you, etc.

Whereas altar boys might be viewed as controllable due to the position of power the priest had over them. Power often leads to abuse. Whether it's the female intern or the male altar boy.

These are just some conjectures, I'd be curious to hear anyone else's thoughts on if there seems to be any merit to them.

 

[Incorruptible]

I'm confused. In your mind does being gay make it okay to molest kids? Or inevitable?

Absolutely not! Anyone who molests kids should face justice despite their religion. I was pointing out that many of the priests were gay

 

[jackstar7]

Absolutely not! Anyone who molests kids should face justice despite their religion. I was pointing out that many of the priests were gay

Why does that matter?

 

[BoberFett]

Your join date says 2000 but you seem to be an internet noob. There are porn sites devoted to rape fantasy, just for starters. I'm sure if you dig around the seedier corners of the internet you will find sites devoted to real rape. I guarantee millions of teen boys are all about the rape porn. Sharking, hidden cams, fuck! Boys are raping their fucking sisters and bragging about it on the internet ffs. Get your head out of your ass. This shit wouldn't be so prevalent in today's culture if parents educated their kids correctly about sex instead of ignoring it.

Your forum handle includes the number 69. Clearly you're furthering the culture of rape.