Democrat debate on cnn 3/9

ivwshane

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Someone be kind enough to post a link to the stream.

Two things; the audio sucks
The audience really shouldn't be apart of these debates.
 

ivwshane

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Both are trying to hit each other on their record and unfortunately I feel it's pointless as both of their positions have a lot of nuance to them that will be lost on the American public.

I said this in another thread but I'll repeat it. We have a choice between an idealist and a pragmatist. Bernie has a vision but no realistic way of achieving that vision. Clinton has a path forward but where does that path lead? Bernie has been consistently on the right side of the issues but his record of enacting or precipitating actual change is non existent. Hillary on the other hand has been on the wrong side of issues many times but she has also been able to enact positive changes.

You can see this while watching clinton and sanders answer the question on deporting children. Hillary's answer was a realistic answer no matter how much we wish it wasn't true. Sanders on the other hand has no problem of taking a clear cut position on the issue despite it being a promise he cannot keep without breaking the law.
 

Subyman

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I like how Bernie tends to answer the questions directly. He does meander sometimes, but it is a world of difference between him and Hillary.
 

ivwshane

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I like how Bernie tends to answer the questions directly. He does meander sometimes, but it is a world of difference between him and Hillary.

Most people do but that's because they aren't aware of the complexity of the issues.

It's pretty easy to vote against things that would have a needed positive impact on real peoples lives because some other group of undeserving people might also get something when the bill will pass regardless. But what if that bill wasn't going to pass and people that needed help weren't going to get it? Is it ok to vote against that bill because some other undeserving group will get something as well? If you lack empathy then the answer is clear. When politicians disregard the feelings of groups of people with the laws they pass we all lose. (See anti abortion laws or anti gun laws).
 

ivwshane

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I really don't like Bernie's implication of clinton bought and paid for by Wall Street. It's a dirty move and an appeal to emotion, because many politicians get paid for speeches when they are out of office and most of those speeches aren't about giving tips on how to buy washington they are typically speeches of inspiration. Anyone who has worked for any large business and has been to one of these paid corporate speeches knows they are all the same. There is no smoking gun as sanders is implying and it's beneath him to even imply it.
 

SP33Demon

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I really don't like Bernie's implication of clinton bought and paid for by Wall Street. It's a dirty move and an appeal to emotion, because many politicians get paid for speeches when they are out of office and most of those speeches aren't about giving tips on how to buy washington they are typically speeches of inspiration. Anyone who has worked for any large business and has been to one of these paid corporate speeches knows they are all the same. There is no smoking gun as sanders is implying and it's beneath him to even imply it.
Well she shouldn't have any problem releasing the transcripts then. She is using some excuse about Republicans not releasing them. Deflect deflect deflect
 

ivwshane

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Well she shouldn't have any problem releasing the transcripts then. She is using some excuse about Republicans not releasing them. Deflect deflect deflect

Oh hi fluffer! Is that the same thing you said about trump releasing his tax returns?
 

ivwshane

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The moderator just hit Sanders with a come to jesus question: you've described the problem, how do you fix it?

His answer was a non answer.
 

SP33Demon

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An audit doesn't keep him from releasing prior tax returns moron!
Read the link, moron! No lawyer in their right mind would ever advise you to publicly release a tax return during an audit. That low liberal IQ showing again.
 

MongGrel

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Read the link, moron! No lawyer in their right mind would ever advise you to publicly release a tax return during an audit. That low liberal IQ showing again.


There is that word again ...

Most people are running for POTUS are being audited for everything they do anyway, is just part of the process to begin with.

I guess after a few weeks you finally admitted to one of your last bogus statements.
 
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ivwshane

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Read the link, moron! No lawyer in their right mind would ever advise you to publicly release a tax return during an audit. That low liberal IQ showing again.

Well then I'm sure he's got nothing to hide right? Isn't that your logic? He certainly isn't doing anything illegal right? Your link also doesn't say he isn't legally allowed to release his tax returns so this is simply a personal choice and one you've conveniently swallowed like you do all his loads.


Keep fluffing!
 

LegendKiller

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I really don't like Bernie's implication of clinton bought and paid for by Wall Street. It's a dirty move and an appeal to emotion, because many politicians get paid for speeches when they are out of office and most of those speeches aren't about giving tips on how to buy washington they are typically speeches of inspiration. Anyone who has worked for any large business and has been to one of these paid corporate speeches knows they are all the same. There is no smoking gun as sanders is implying and it's beneath him to even imply it.

How the fuck is it a dirty move? SHE IS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR! Calling a spade a spade doesn't make you racist against a spade, it makes you somebody who tells the truth.

Why the flying fuck through a rolling donut would Goldman invite Clinton to speak, repeatedly, if she was their enemy?

And the duhflection of having the opposing party have to release before you do? What a fucking joke.
 

ivwshane

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How the fuck is it a dirty move? SHE IS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR! Calling a spade a spade doesn't make you racist against a spade, it makes you somebody who tells the truth.

Why the flying fuck through a rolling donut would Goldman invite Clinton to speak, repeatedly, if she was their enemy?

And the duhflection of having the opposing party have to release before you do? What a fucking joke.

By bought and paid for I assume you mean she was bought and paid to have her give a speech? Yes, that's correct. Btw, how many corporate speeches have you been to?
 

SP33Demon

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Well then I'm sure he's got nothing to hide right? Isn't that your logic? He certainly isn't doing anything illegal right? Your link also doesn't say he isn't legally allowed to release his tax returns so this is simply a personal choice and one you've conveniently swallowed like you do all his loads.


Keep fluffing!
Call your lawyer and ask them. Nobody is going against what their lawyer says. Low IQ response as usual.
 

SP33Demon

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Clinton is already dirty so it's not possible for anyone to pull a dirty move on her. Sanders is just reminding everyone of the obvious. Put up or shut up, hillary.
 
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