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fskimospy

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All I can say is that I hope they properly vetted these seat fillers, I can see things going very wrong if they let in the wrong people just to keep up appearances for their movie set. Especially with people like the president and presidential candidates around. Knowing the DNC, they probably didn't considering they couldn't even secure their own email/voicemail servers.

How do you feel that the DNC is getting higher ratings than the RNC? Also, how do you feel about the fact that polling after Trump's speech gave it the lowest favorable ratings of any acceptance speech that's been measured?

I thought it was pretty amusing, haha.
 

JSt0rm

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$50? They give you $50 a day? All I got was a hearty handshake and a free sub to Commie Kenyon Times. I need a better agent.


Yeah but I have to be in a mass shooting fake event to take away the 2nd amendment rights of the god loving tru™ patriot republican christian saints of our god and true lord jesus christ.
 

JSt0rm

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How do you feel that the DNC is getting higher ratings than the RNC? Also, how do you feel about the fact that polling after Trump's speech gave it the lowest favorable ratings of any acceptance speech that's been measured?

I thought it was pretty amusing, haha.


All of that is fake. Made by the democrat secret commie liberal.
 

SP33Demon

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Obama is an incredible orator but I felt Biden gave the better speech. I find it ironic that Clinton becomes the heir of hope and change, a candidate he once described as likeable enough and who he criticized with attack vectors that are still applicable today.

I also felt he didn't really have a strong response to Trump. Yes Trump is a bigot and a buffoon and all of those things, but his message is resonating with some people because there is a sentiment that things aren't great in America or the world right now. Sanders understood this. Are things better than under Bush? In some regards yes, in others, not so much. Unity and diversity and inclusion and lofty idealism are all noble things, none of them address the problems that the next President will inevitably slam into.
Yup, Dems acting like everything is rosy and peachy is going to bite them in the ass. If everything's so great right now, why are they parading BLM sob stories on stage? Why is a large part of the party not even on board with your candidate? Can't have it both ways.

Of course everything is rosy and peachy for the new party of the rich which is why Bloomberg is on board.
http://www.vox.com/polyarchy/2016/6/3/11843780/democrats-wealthy-party
In May, the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget surveyed the presidential contenders and declared Hillary Clinton the most fiscally conservative. Clinton is largely pro-trade, pro-immigration, and pro-infrastructure, all priorities for big business.
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Or, put another way, 2012 was not a blip. It was the beginning of a phase shift. Democrats are replacing Republicans as the preferred party of the new American rich.

It's unclear at this point, however, whether this is a good thing for Democrats' electoral fortunes. The big risk for Democrats is that they will worry too much about catering to their wealthiest supporters and alienate their lower-income supports into becoming populist Republicans. Some of this may depend on how the economy develops, and whether inequality continues to grow.
 

Starbuck1975

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Just curious, what impressed you? Did you think that what you heard was truth? I understand that it may not make any difference to you whether any of it was or wasn't.

I ask because it was all typical Clinton interpretation of what actually transpired. It was all spin. Nothing that he said was truthful. Now, maybe after all these years the Clinton machine has told the lies often enough that even they believe them I don't know. But why accept what people that are lying say as truth?

Why do people on such a mass scale choose to believe rhetoric that is undeniably untrue? That's a rhetorical question.
I admire Clinton's ability to spin anything. I actually don't care for him very much. Which makes Hillary this candidate even more confounding. All of the Clinton baggage with none of the charisma.

In the spring of 1971 I met a girl, and then spent most of the 90s cheating on her...
 

SP33Demon

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How do you feel that the DNC is getting higher ratings than the RNC? Also, how do you feel about the fact that polling after Trump's speech gave it the lowest favorable ratings of any acceptance speech that's been measured?

I thought it was pretty amusing, haha.
Funny, but the liberal latimes/USC poll doesn't agree. Look at the pretty little chart and tell us what you see:
http://96.127.53.23/election/
In fact, Trump's lead expanded by half a point yesterday to well over 7.

Also, nice lie about Trump's speech. CNN Instant Poll showed that 73% viewed it favorably and 56% of viewers were more likely to vote for him after watching it.
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/07...ing-viewers-trumps-rnc-speech-well-wow-368574

The left-leaning MSM brainwashing is strong with this one.
 
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Funny, but the liberal latimes/USC poll doesn't agree. Look at the pretty little chart and tell us what you see:
http://96.127.53.23/election/
In fact, Trump's lead expanded by half a point yesterday to well over 7.

Also, nice lie about Trump's speech. CNN Instant Poll showed that 73% viewed it favorably and 56% of viewers were more likely to vote for him after watching it.
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/07...ing-viewers-trumps-rnc-speech-well-wow-368574

The left-leaning MSM brainwashing is strong with this one.
 

umbrella39

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You know you are in trouble when 27% of your base didn't find your concession speech favorable...
 

squarecut1

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Read some of the things Obama said about Hillary. I believe there is some decency inside Obama, so it would have come out at least with some difficulty, I think. But then again, he is a politician...
 

OrByte

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Just curious, what impressed you? Did you think that what you heard was truth? I understand that it may not make any difference to you whether any of it was or wasn't.

I ask because it was all typical Clinton interpretation of what actually transpired. It was all spin. Nothing that he said was truthful. Now, maybe after all these years the Clinton machine has told the lies often enough that even they believe them I don't know. But why accept what people that are lying say as truth?

Why do people on such a mass scale choose to believe rhetoric that is undeniably untrue? That's a rhetorical question.
Republicans have lots of trouble understanding what the "truth" looks like so it is no surprise to me that you are struggling to see much of the truth of what is being said in speeches at the DNC.

no surprise at all
 

echo4747

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Uhm, your link shows the DNC winning two of the three nights and says there is likely to be a larger than normal adjustment to the numbers since Obama didn't speak until 11:15. Were you trying to confirm what I said?

Yes, The DNC won the ratings first two days,however. I feel the part of that was due to the interest of many to see what/if/how much commotion the "FeelTheBern" folks might cause( especially from the wikileaks release). I feel Day 3 ratings should be a bit disappointing for the Dems especially since it showcased their "superstars". Fair assessment?
 

DrPizza

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No, it's real because anyone with eyes can see the Bernie seats were filled. Use your eyes. Or watch the videos of witnesses actually there who are saying the same thing. Or watch the video of the seat filler admit he just got his credentials that day.

The DNC gotta make that movie set look good.

Help me out here. I can't tell if you're intentionally full of shit. Or if you're stupid enough to think that the DNC is going to advertise for people to fill seats on Craigslist. Publicly advertising for seat fillers is a hell of a lot worse than having a very small percentage of the seats empty. And, you're very naive to think that in the tri-state area there aren't a lot of Democrats who would love to attend. All it would take is a few calls from a few elected officials and those seats would be filled. "Hey, mayor/councilman/elected person (D) of town/village in PA, NJ, NY within an hour of Philly, could you make a few calls and get a few of your respected Democratic constituents to come down here and fill a few seats?" That's all it would take and they could have thousands of people.

To think that they couldn't find a few thousand donors to Democratic Party members to come down and have a seat, within an hour of Philly, is very naive, else just partisan bullshit as you seem to do as a habit.
 

agent00f

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RNC should learn from the DNC, just rig the whole thing so your chosen candidate wins.


The Dems as a party don't give two shits about the middle class, the just claim they do.

NAFTA, TPP, Illegal Immigration, all things that work to help destroy middle class jobs.

Then theres the typical liberal smugness; you work in a trade they don't like: construction, mining, manufacturing, and the Dems look down on you, like your some kind of moron, because you lack that liberal arts English degree that they used to get a job at Starbucks.

In the military the dems look down on you as being stupid. A cop, the dems look at you as some sort of racist black people murdering KKK member.

The Dems aren't for the middle class, the dems for their choose protected classes.

The clinton democrats are centrist neoliberals. I realize you're not in a position to understand what those words means, so the simple version is that that they're somewhat lighter versions of full blown free-market capitalist that conservatives purport to be. From this point I suspect even you can figure out the alternative to neoliberalism isn't american conservatism, simple from pondering how distances work (ie further/closer).
 

Jhhnn

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The clinton democrats are centrist neoliberals. I realize you're not in a position to understand what those words means, so the simple version is that that they're somewhat lighter versions of full blown free-market capitalist that conservatives purport to be. From this point I suspect even you can figure out the alternative to neoliberalism isn't american conservatism, simple from pondering how distances work (ie further/closer).

Please. The Party as a whole is center-left. The Clintonites have been entirely cognizant & supportive of that as they work to get everybody on the same page.
 

agent00f

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Please. The Party as a whole is center-left. The Clintonites have been entirely cognizant & supportive of that as they work to get everybody on the same page.

The clintons were largely responsible for steering the party centrist (welfare reform, rather corporate, etc), which props to them wins elections. That's reality of the matter even if we can argue the exact location of markers on the field.
 

Thump553

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IMO the Dem Party being center-left or center-right is a huge plus. The real problem with our government is the do-nothing doctrinaire GOP. If somehow we voters swept enough of them out of office (hell they could be replaced with potted plants as far as I care) you would really see a new golden era in America. The Presidency is a powerful office but what happened to Obama proves how badly shortsighted pols can derail and damage the country. I don't think I can ever forgive the GOP for intentionally and voluntarily wrecking our credit rating in order to score political points.
 

Perknose

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Help me out here. I can't tell if you're intentionally full of shit. Or if you're stupid enough to think that the DNC is going to advertise for people to fill seats on Craigslist. Publicly advertising for seat fillers is a hell of a lot worse than having a very small percentage of the seats empty. And, you're very naive to think that in the tri-state area there aren't a lot of Democrats who would love to attend. All it would take is a few calls from a few elected officials and those seats would be filled. "Hey, mayor/councilman/elected person (D) of town/village in PA, NJ, NY within an hour of Philly, could you make a few calls and get a few of your respected Democratic constituents to come down here and fill a few seats?" That's all it would take and they could have thousands of people.

To think that they couldn't find a few thousand donors to Democratic Party members to come down and have a seat, within an hour of Philly, is very naive, else just partisan bullshit as you seem to do as a habit.

Speedy's post consisted of strung together hype and outright bull. When I read it and followed his links, I was tempted to critique it point by point, but initially decided it was simply too tedious to dive into his hysterical muck. But, eh, it needs to be done or the weaker minds here might lodge this in their psyches as having actually happened as he describes it:

DNC paying people $50/day to fill empty seats because they are "unified", remember? hahahah
https://youtu.be/06R-6s3NSRc

His proof is this youtube selfie vid of a Bernie Bot who literally begins saying, and I quote, "I don't have any facts about this. I don't want to make any allegations that aren't true" and then proceeds to pretty much do both. There is NOTHING in his ramble about anyone paying anyone else $50/day for anything.

http://www.inquisitr.com/3355020/d-n...d-n-c-walkout/

#NeverHillaryorTrump ‎@Sammyboy1216

Clinton campaign has a Philly craigslist ad for actors/seat-fillers @ $50/day! Has no supporters and underpays! https://twitter.com/Sammyboy1216/sta...rc=twsrc^tfw
5:26 PM - 27 Jul 2016

As you pointed out, Dr, this makes zero sense and is obviously bogus.

This same BS article claims 1,800 Bernie delegates walked out. Another lie, as others in this thread have noted. At most, a couple hundred walked out.

Apparently, there is an actual place where people might register themselves for jobs such as “seat-fillers,” and it is provided by the website Seatfillers, which also has put up a page for curious readers with many questions.

Above, Speedy (oops, nearly typed Spidey!) links to a firm that hires seat fillers for Hollywood-type award shows AS IF this were any proof of the validity of the bogus Craigslist ad:

Seatfiller.com handles over 40 events each year. Recently, they have handled the SAG Awards, the American Music Awards, the People's Choice Awards, the MTV Awards, the TV Guide Awards, the Blockbuster Awards, Soap Opera Digest Awards, the Soul Train Awards, the NAACP Image Awards, the Latin Billboard Awards and Rock & Jock baseball.

BENGAZI to you, too, Speedy!
 

SP33Demon

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Help me out here. I can't tell if you're intentionally full of shit. Or if you're stupid enough to think that the DNC is going to advertise for people to fill seats on Craigslist. Publicly advertising for seat fillers is a hell of a lot worse than having a very small percentage of the seats empty. And, you're very naive to think that in the tri-state area there aren't a lot of Democrats who would love to attend. All it would take is a few calls from a few elected officials and those seats would be filled. "Hey, mayor/councilman/elected person (D) of town/village in PA, NJ, NY within an hour of Philly, could you make a few calls and get a few of your respected Democratic constituents to come down here and fill a few seats?" That's all it would take and they could have thousands of people.

To think that they couldn't find a few thousand donors to Democratic Party members to come down and have a seat, within an hour of Philly, is very naive, else just partisan bullshit as you seem to do as a habit.

Regardless of where the seat fillers came from, they still falsely filled seats for their movie set. Even told the seat fillers when they are supposed to clap/cheer. hahahaha.

I bet the movie "DNC Convention" would do better at the box office than "Ghostbusters". Yet I digress.
 

SP33Demon

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Speedy's post consisted of strung together hype and outright bull. When I read it and followed his links, I was tempted to critique it point by point, but initially decided it was simply too tedious to dive into his hysterical muck. But, eh, it needs to be done or the weaker minds here might lodge this in their psyches as having actually happened as he describes it:



His proof is this youtube selfie vid of a Bernie Bot who literally begins saying, and I quote, "I don't have any facts about this. I don't want to make any allegations that aren't true" and then proceeds to pretty much do both. There is NOTHING in his ramble about anyone paying anyone else $50/day for anything.

http://www.inquisitr.com/3355020/d-n...d-n-c-walkout/



As you pointed out, Dr, this makes zero sense and is obviously bogus.

This same BS article claims 1,800 Bernie delegates walked out. Another lie, as others in this thread have noted. At most, a couple hundred walked out.



Above, Speedy (oops, nearly typed Spidey!) links to a firm that hires seat fillers for Hollywood-type award shows AS IF this were any proof of the validity of the bogus Craigslist ad:



BENGAZI to you, too, Speedy!

So you watched the shitshow convention, didn't you Perk? What the "Bernie bot" said was absolutely true for anyone who saw it. Every seat was filled. They replaced the Bernie delegates' seats with seat fillers (to where Bernie del's couldn't even get back to their seats if they wanted to the next day). That is pathetic, but at least the movie set looked good. "Our party is unified, look everyone!"
 
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